Whatever the penalty, does the NFL have any idea what it's created?

[Fahrenhype]

Mangini will get his...karma will hit him quite hard

People are taking the "Karma" thing a bit overboard. Would any possible divine being give a sh!t about a game? Mangina isn't going to suffer because of "Karma" he'll suffer because he's brought his own integrity and credentials into question, not to mention whether or not anyone who works with him would ever trust him.

I don't know what the exact saying is, but it's along the lines of "you're not punished FOR your sins, you're punished BY them."

Belichick isn't in the frying pan right now because he did this before and God wanted to punish him. He's in trouble because he was belligerent enough to do it again on Sunday and Mangina wanted to punish him. But that's the rub. Mangina's fate isn't in God's hands, it's in the hands of people who aren't going to want to work with him in the future.

 

[Pedrorocks458]

==================================== I truely feel sorry for the crap you guys are going to have to put up with.

This just made my day, not the least because he incorrectly spelled "truly." I just realized how little all this matters. Between weeks, all I'm worried about is stewarding the joy I feel on Sundays when this team plays, making sure it will be there the next week. This won't affect them. Honestly, it's only a small part about legacy and history. Or rubbing it in other fans' faces. It's mostly about Sunday. And darn we're good on Sunday.

 

[Gunnails]

I got a response froom a media guy, they know who he the cameraman on the Jets sideline is and he works for the Jets. It had not occurred to them that they were doing the same thing since the photos show him aiming at the Jets while the Patriots offense was out. I told him to look at the film to see what he is shooting while the Patriots defense is out. Also that it is the same infraction the Jets did.


i think because they are press, they don't see anything wrong even though this is clearly against the rules. We don't know what he filmed as they didn't grab the film but that is not the point. That he is there is the same bad thing the Patriots did so the penalty would be the same. Stealing signals is not the infraction, its having the cameraman.

Mangini and the Jets should get the same punishment

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DR Pain, I am not your enemy, check the sticky about the debunked photo, I was the first to point this out, nobody listen, so I pointed it out again.

If the Jets are cheating they deserve to suffer the consequences.

 

[Gunnails]

This just made my day, not the least because he incorrectly spelled "truly." I just realized how little all this matters. Between weeks, all I'm worried about is stewarding the joy I feel on Sundays when this team plays, making sure it will be there the next week. This won't affect them. Honestly, it's only a small part about legacy and history. Or rubbing it in other fans' faces. It's mostly about Sunday. And darn we're good on Sunday.

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Patsfan.com took away my spell checker, I am serious.

 

[Pats726]

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Mangini did nothing wrong.

If this is your ethics I truly feel very sorry for you...Maybe you do not know ANYTHING about the Mangini Belichick relationship..Bill has known Eric for many many years...first when Eric was a ball boy, but he mentored him for many years, teaching him, helping him in so many ways, naming him DCO in 05, even though he had had only some experience. For someone who helped him for so long, taight him and mentored him, to basically embarrass him like he has by what he did, dropping a dime on him, shows what a true heratless piece of trash he is. If you would do that to someone who helped you for as long as BB helped Mangini, you are by far one of the saddest souls around. By saying Mangini did nothing wrong, I presume that is the case.

 

[Dr Pain]

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DR Pain, I am not your enemy, check the sticky about the debunked photo, I was the first to point this out, nobody listen, so I pointed it out again.

If the Jets are cheating they deserve to suffer the consequences.

No Problem. I saw the sticky and cold hardfootball facts and they said they didn't know who he was and he want the Patriots guy. I would love to hear who he was. I just heard from a local media member he worked for the Jets but I don't know if that is true.

Take care

 

[Gunnails]

If this is your ethics I truly feel very sorry for you...Maybe you do not know ANYTHING about the Mangini Belichick relationship..Bill has known Eric for many many years...first when Eric was a ball boy, but he mentored him for many years, teaching him, helping him in so many ways, naming him DCO in 05, even though he had had only some experience. For someone who helped him for so long, taight him and mentored him, to basically embarrass him like he has by what he did, dropping a dime on him, shows what a true heratless piece of trash he is. If you would do that to someone who helped you for as long as BB helped Mangini, you are by far one of the saddest souls around. By saying Mangini did nothing wrong, I presume that is the case.

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Save me the history lesson

Here is more history, BB thought it would be all fine and wonderful for him to come to Giants stadium and pull this crap on EM, well EM wasn't having it in his house, this mafia style good ol boy secret code crap is just that crap.

According to you Mangini should of just rolled over and let BB do it. Not.

But BB would of never done such a heinous thing, like hell he wouldn't.

 

[The Gr8est]

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I do not know how the Pats would of profited from the tape even if they hadn't got caught.

Mangini is a hero, and he seems to be getting alot more support the Beli.

Spin it any way you want, the Jets and Mangini did nothing wrong

The Pats on the other hand??????????

Well now that the punishment has been handed down we can get back to concentrating on the season. The distraction that kept scrutiny off of the Jets has passed.

The Jets are 0-1, the #4 pick from last year looks like a bust, the Pete Kendall situation has made a bad OL worse, Mangyna will look worse in the eyes of the league as time passes because of his self-serving backstabbing move.

The Jets will be 0-2 after this weekend and the scrutiny from the NY media will be right back where it belongs, and where Mangyna tried to keep it from being.....on him.

He got too much credit last year due to a weak schedule and a fluke win vs the Pats (no sour grapes...when a WR is not down because he fell on top of the DB that IS a fluke), but this year will be the beginning of the end for him........and you know it too.

 

[Gunnails]

Well now that the punishment has been handed down we can get back to concentrating on the season. The distraction that kept scrutiny off of the Jets has passed.

The Jets are 0-1, the #4 pick from last year looks like a bust, the Pete Kendall situation has made a bad OL worse, Mangyna will look worse in the eyes of the league as time passes because of his self-serving backstabbing move.

The Jets will be 0-2 after this weekend and the scrutiny from the NY media will be right back where it belongs, and where Mangyna tried to keep it from being.....on him.

He got too much credit last year due to a weak schedule and a fluke win vs the Pats (no sour grapes...when a WR is not down because he fell on top of the DB that IS a fluke), but this year will be the beginning of the end for him........and you know it too.

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Yes lets talk football,

The Jets are awful, Tangini did not do nearly enough in the off season to progress from last year, they did not address either the of the lines, and it shows.

Mangini has been an excelent game day coach, even with the easy sched Mangini had the team playing above there talent level, expect plenty of criticism from the press and fans because its NY.

But Tanginis jobs are secure for at least 2 more years.

Oh and I agree on Kendal, and DBrick.

 

[Pats726]

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Save me the history lesson

Here is more history, BB thought it would be all fine and wonderful for him to come to Giants stadium and pull this crap on EM, well EM wasn't having it in his house, this mafia style good ol boy secret code crap is just that crap.

According to you Mangini should of just rolled over and let BB do it. Not.

But BB would of never done such a heinous thing, like hell he wouldn't.

Since you skipped the tough part of my question..I assume you still believe Mangini did nothing wrong..correct?? You skipped it because you understand that what Mangini did was pretty poor and ashamed to admit what a Judas he was...OR???

 

[Gunnails]

Since you skipped the tough part of my question..I assume you still believe Mangini did nothing wrong..correct?? You skipped it because you understand that what Mangini did was pretty poor and ashamed to admit what a Judas he was...OR???

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Mangini did nothing wrong, nobody likes a rat, Mangini was not wrong to rat on the Pats.

Pats brought this on them selves.

Stop blaming other people for your problems.

 

[jman924]

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Mangini did nothing wrong, nobody likes a rat, Mangini was not wrong to rat on the Pats.

Pats brought this on them selves.

Stop blaming other people for your problems.

Problems?
Ha!
We're 1-0.
All the blind masses thought we were buying off the refs before. This doesn't change the opinions of the stupid sheep out there. We have no problems.

The Jets however...

 

[Buddah50]

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That is it in a nut shell, that and the fact that the Pats apparetly cheated.

Maybe My Jets could of won, we will never know now.

Well your boys will have (another) chance on December 16th...

 

[Gunnails]

Well your boys will have (another) chance on December 16th...

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I look forward to it, maybe by then my boys will have there act together.

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

This is the type of jackasses that we have to hear for a long time now.

Thanks Mangina.

You're officially an enemy for life after this.

I was indifferent about him before... but not any longer.

The Colt's used to be my most hated team.

It's easily the Jests now.

We've finally found common ground No more silly pictures. :rocker:

So tired of hearing "everybody looks for an edge"! Like comparing shoplifting chewing gum to robbing a bank...ridiculous!

Videotaping on YOUR sideline would send this board into the stratoshere! It's AGANST THE RULES AND.....not only is the league not singling you out....thery warned you a year ago for the exact thing with zerp consequences and "the genius" allowed it again, in NY against a known enemy! He should be fined for being a poser! Ivy league he ain't!

Been there done that....... Pretty good evidence that the Jets were filming us too. Miama bought audibles last year (probably from Mangina). No give a crap if you "cheat" against the Pats.

Yeah it could be used as motivation, but really, why would people like ADT or Randy Moss need to feel motivated by it? There's been a lot of new faces on the roster lately, they've got nothing to do with whatever Belichick's schemes were. I definitely see people like Vrabel, Bruschi, etc. getting fired up though because their talents are being disregarded by the people saying everything they won is fraudulent.

Ummm, I remember the days (before he turned bitter in Oak.) that Moss used to play pretty darn well with a chip on his shoulder. In fact, I can't imagine he's real happy the league has once against screwed him over and is dumping on the one guy that "rescued him" from that hellhole in Oakland.

 

[patpatriot]

All these clowns have done is awaken a sleeping giant.

 

[sieglo]

All these clowns have done is awaken a sleeping giant.

Yeah, I think however long BB was planning on hanging around, you can add another few years.... And I suspect the entire remainder of his tenure he'll be doing everything in his power to make sure Mangini is a giant failure. Including helping other teams beat the Jets!

 

[Pats726]

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Mangini did nothing wrong, nobody likes a rat, Mangini was not wrong to rat on the Pats.

Pats brought this on them selves.

Stop blaming other people for your problems.

my problem???
you are a sad human being... I feel sorry for anyone who has ever helped u in anyway in your life.. If you see nothing at all wrong with what Mangini did.you are a pathetic human being...