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Top 25 quarterbacks of all time: Patriots' Tom Brady leads list
Whew, I was worried.
Getting very tempted to start talking about Rodgers and trigger people.
I thought it was official when they beat Atlanta.*
* For Andy Johnson, I mean when they beat Atlanta in the Super Bowl, just so you don’t get confused.
What's official about it?
There was a discount double-check.
Is there any debate any more? I mean, really, I get that we are a bunch of homers that love our guy, but really? He's clearly #1. the question is ... is he the best football player ever? He's certainly not the best athlete, but the real debate in my book is where does he rank on best all-time player list. Rice, LT, Brady, Brown, Payton...
For me, I'll give it to the runaway best player at the most important position in team sports.
It's officially a fish, Al.
Right, the biggest game of the year.
I think that's pretty much settled too. Now it's a question of where he ranks in relative dominance in his respective sport. Gretzky, Woods, Ali, Babe, Jordan, Brady, Federer etc....... In that debate I think Brady is still pretty low. Might be ahead of Woods and Federer but not the others I named.
Elliot Harrison’s opinion evidently.
He's in the conversation. I made an analogy in another thread that if all the greats are invited to dinner in a swanky restaurant, Brady still has a spot at the table. Names like Ali, Babe Ruth, Jordan... they transcend sports and become part of popular culture. Ali had an affect on the entire world. Jordan changed marketing. Ruth was the first mega star. The fact that Brady's at this level is mind blowing to me. I go back to the 70's, with Grogan. I vaguely remember Plunkett playing, but mostly I remember my grandfather bitching how terrible he was. Our QB.. our guy... is at the the Mount Rushmore level of all time great athletes. What a treat it's been to have him as our guy, his whole career. No free agency, no warm weather city, no lure of another location, just football, here, in NE. Pretty cool.
Ok, I am done smelling the roses for today.
Has Max Kellerman jumped aboard yet?
One is not like the other two.
Rather see him jump off...the cliff.
Choker Manning ahead of Unitas , Graham, Starr, etc,? ptew!
Woods will not likely be remembered as golf’s greatest if he doesn’t surpass Nicklaus’s record. He is the most popular and influential, but his story may be about that of anointing “the greatest” too soon.
Federer may very well get passed by Djokovic or Nadal in career grand slams. He’s not a lock for greatest tennis player.
I’m not going to derail another thread, but there’s a good amount of people who prefer Orr to Gretzky based on Orr’s far superior plus-minus and that no player has ever come close to playing like him.
I personally think Jordan is not the clear GOAT because he only won championships during a relatively short timeframe and with many of the same teammates, against an NBA lacking any other great teams. But I won’t die on a hill for this one. I think the marketing hype for MJ and his peak were the perfect storm. He’s certainly among the greatest though.
Ruth and Ali, agreed, clearly best ever. And Brady too.
Exactly. My top five is Brady, Graham, Montana, Starr, Unitas. Top three of Brady, Graham, Montana should be basically bulletproof if you are including Graham in the rankings.
Manning is somewhere in a dogfight for 6-12ish. No one has ever underperformed so frequently in big games and failed to capitalize on so many chances to make legendary moments as Manning. What is his crowing moment? A broken play TD to Reggie Wayne in the SB against the Bears and then getting the SB MVP with the worst QB rating ever to win the award? Coming back against the Pats from 21-6 after choking as usual and beating a second string defense and Reche Caldwell led offense? The writer asks WHAT ARE BIG GAMES??? to defend Manning. Gee, I don’t know...maybe elimination games where you need to score to save the season? Something Brady has done too many times to count?
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