Patriots Pregame Thread Week 5 pregame discussion: Saints @ Pats

[slash83]

This team sucks, bottom 4 in the NFL suckage, won’t be mad at this point if they end up picking top 5-7 in the draft.

 

[Ross12]

I think we saw what it looks like when Mac plays to score/win rather than play safe according to the plan and it wasn’t pretty.

Yeah, I hear you. But that's more of an on-the-fly adjustment while they're down, as opposed to a week long game plan install with a specific focus.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Yeah, I hear you. But that's more of an on-the-fly adjustment while they're down, as opposed to a week long game plan install with a specific focus.

I love the optimism and hope you're right. At this point, I just want to see more of Douglas.

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

1-4 after this game! I have no confidence in this team. Even more after Judon and Gonzo are now out for the season! Not only has our offense been stagnant, but now our defense is greatly weakened after Judon and Gonzo. Hoping for a top 3 pick in this year's draft. Should start trading players that won't be here next season to stock up on picks to reload with our new HC! BB will not be the Pats HC next season! It's time for a change from the old school teachings of BB to the new school type of football that is now being played!

 

[Lagaffe_07]

We have no running game due to this and the backs just don't have any lanes to run.

I don’t think it’s 100% the oline fault. I think teams are not afraid of Mac and are stacking the box and force Mac to beat them throwing the ball to the outside.

Against Dallas, Mac was pressure a lot but had a lot of time to throw. Dallas made a good job to force Mac to hold the ball to long and it allowed the pressure to get there. He wasn’t pressured as quickly as the other game. Which is weird because he completely melted down and was leaving perfectly fine pocket.

 

[Jim Beankie]

If Mac does poorly, it's gonna be Chicago the Musical the Sequel with confidence-stomping boos and zaps raining down.

That being said, I'm hoping Mac bounces back and has a great game.

 

[sb1]

If Mac does poorly, it's gonna be Chicago the Musical the Sequel with confidence-stomping boos and zaps raining down.

That being said, I'm hoping Mac bounces back and has a great game.

Boos sure but I think the fever is dead and buried.

 

[turkeyneck]

I don’t think it’s 100% the oline fault. I think teams are not afraid of Mac and are stacking the box and force Mac to beat them throwing the ball to the outside.

This, and after that last showing they are going to be laying in wait for every sidelines floater with intent to take it to the house.

In fact, they'll be so anxious to jump those that a clever OC might scheme for it and burn them.

 

[PatsFan2]

If Mac does poorly, it's gonna be Chicago the Musical the Sequel with confidence-stomping boos and zaps raining down.

That being said, I'm hoping Mac bounces back and has a great game.

The pressure is on Mac Wilson and we all know how he responds to pressure.

 

[patsinthesnow]

The saints have a pass rush, play man coverage & have a shutdown CB that’s having the best year of his career. This won’t be a productive day offensively.

 

[Jim Beankie]

OT:
I wonder why Bill and his draft guru/yes men didn't appreciate the talents of rookie WR Pacu Nacua who was drafted at #177 (5th rd)?

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The problem is opportunity - not sure if he'd have any catches if Kupp were healthy. Also, Pats rookies get zero room for mistakes, and they're on the bench if they breathe incorrectly (edit: offense players). Puka already has 5 drops with a bad 9.6% drop rate, although I don't know how many of those are the bullcrap "drops" where he caught the ball but didn't get 2 feet inbounds (which is why Boutte has 2 drops listed).

If Puka were on the Pats, there'd be a high chance the S&C team would've gotten him on the IR by now. Puka's already battling injuries as it is.

 

[Jim Beankie]

Boos sure but I think the fever is dead and buried.

Depends on how badly Mac plays. Don't need a fever when people in the stand have tons of alcohol.

 

[Real fan 02]

I don’t think it’s 100% the oline fault. I think teams are not afraid of Mac and are stacking the box and force Mac to beat them throwing the ball to the outside.

Against Dallas, Mac was pressure a lot but had a lot of time to throw. Dallas made a good job to force Mac to hold the ball to long and it allowed the pressure to get there. He wasn’t pressured as quickly as the other game. Which is weird because he completely melted down and was leaving perfectly fine pocket.

Not 100% no.. but they assume a bulk of the responsibility.. the Job of the O-line is to block,create holes In the run game. Now Mac was just trying to make a play.. he seemingly got panicky and was making throws across his body. It was just a total team loss. Other than KB there is no one separating for him. Zo was saying in the broadcast that the scout report on the offense is play man on the WRs and play up at the line to handle the run. Thornton can really aid this offense when he returns. He and Douglas need to be involved heavily. Only thing I can think of to help this offensive offense right now.

 

[Real fan 02]

I love the optimism and hope you're right. At this point, I just want to see more of Douglas.

Douglas must be inserted into the starting line up.. it's glaringly apparent he is the only play maker at WR.. Unless Thornton returns and shows something. Why does it feel the seasons over in October? I hate this feeling

 

[denverpatsfan]

The extended pre-season is now over. This team will finally play a full competitive 4- quarters.

 

[PatsFan2]

The saints have a pass rush, play man coverage & have a shutdown CB that’s having the best year of his career. This won’t be a productive day offensively.

Recipe to beat Corky the words out. He can't place the football where only his guy can catch it somebody needs glasses.

 

[Rob0729]

i this team misses a mcginest/rodney/edelman type leadership.

I think that is the thing people missing. This team has no identity and real leadership. You got Slater, but he not a tough guy leader. I remember back in the day the Patriots had a ****iness, smack you in the month attitude. Now they tackle like it is two hand touch and seem to go through the motions at times.

They desperately need a Bryan Cox hit on Jerome Pathon type of moment that sparks this team into something with an attitude.

A change in attitude and getting an identity certainly won't fix all that is wrong with this team, but it is a step in the right direction.

 

[PatsFan2]

OT:
I wonder why Bill and his draft guru/yes men didn't appreciate the talents of rookie WR Pacu Nacua who was drafted at #177 (5th rd)?

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You can bet the Puke wasn't as articulate as Harry in interviews you know Harry sets the bar.

 

[mike_usagisan]

You can bet the Puke wasn't as articulate as Harry in interviews you know Harry sets the bar.

All 32 teams passed on him several times.

 

[PatsFan2]

Groh is supposed to be the voice of reason with drafting players.. the issue is he is part of the BB circle of friends and family... we NEED someone with no ties to BB to be able to pick, sign players. BB as we all know with his power is going to target players he feels can fit in his system. We have a early 2000s NFL roster not a 2023 roster. I absolutely respect BB the HC but I've soured on the GM .

Them are fighting words to the Homers becareful Real.