Patriots Pregame Thread Week 4 discussion: Pats @ Cowboys

[PatsFan2]

Evidence is starting to mount the pats started the season playing two top 5 teams. The eagles are averaging 451 ypg outside week 1 (251 yards vs. pats). The pats held the dolphins to 24 points without their #2 & #3 CB.

Trent Brown has been pretty good this season - 98.3 pass block efficiency (13th/63), the interior OL is healthy & they may found a RT in Lowe that isn't a turnstile. Considering the rest of the schedule isn't what it appeared earlier winning this game would change their season.

V Lowe is very solid stay healthy nice find BB. Trent Brown is our best Lineman I would extend and let him finish his career here.

 

[turkeyneck]

V Lowe is very solid stay healthy nice find BB. Trent Brown is our best Lineman I would extend and let him finish his career here.

Brown needs incentives to keep him focused. I fear a fall-off in his level of play if he gets a contract with any guarantees.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

Dang, I was kinda hoping we'd be the team that would expose the Cowboys. Now that the Cardinals have, we won't be able to sneak past them. I really worry about our O-Line being coordinated enough to deal with Parsons.

 

[Patsfan1958]

 

[PatsFan2]

Interesting where the Pats are on that list knowing in Two of those games they were playing from well behind. San Fran and Philly have superior Offenses who always seem to play with the lead unlike us. A little too early for those overrated stats.

 

[PowerRunRevival]

Cards best the cowboys by running right at them. This needs to be a breakout game from the RB for Pats to win. If NE gets put in obvious passing situations then the offense is doomed.

Lamb vs Gonzalez will be a good match up. If Jon Jones is back the Pats should be able to hold Dak in check. If Ekuale and Godchaux are out the Pats could have a hard time stopping Pollard.

 

[PatsFan2]

Cards best the cowboys by running right at them. This needs to be a breakout game from the RB for Pats to win. If NE gets put in obvious passing situations then the offense is doomed.

Lamb vs Gonzalez will be a good match up. If Jon Jones is back the Pats should be able to hold Dak in check. If Ekuale and Godchaux are out the Pats could have a hard time stopping Pollard.

Didn't the Cowboys lose their best CB?? Gilly doesn't scare me and shouldn't scare Mac run verticals at him all day long.

 

[State]

We need Carl Davis back. Dallas will try running it. Lawrence Guy is playing well, but got to keep his snaps limited. If he goes down with Ekuale likely out for an extended time we are too thin there.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Wow, Arizona did run for over 200 yards on them. Hope we can exploit that.

Jon jones back would be huge. I think myles has played pretty respectably in his absence but not sure how much longer we can get away with it.

 

[Patsfan1958]

 

[Ghost of Autumn]

Ooof. Sauce's balls are gonna take another beating after he reads this one.

 

[FCB02062]

Dallas at home, national game....let's not underestimate the officiating for this one. Don't expect the Pats to get the benefit of any decisions. *****ing about the refs is for losers, but you can't expect even handed decisions on the road at Dallas

offense scoring 16.6 ppg and a total of 5 touchdowns, less than 2/game. these are not #s to beat Dallas away. Bill the Coach is going to have let OBrien open it up. I highly doubt the Pats can win Bills preferred way; a TD and 2 Field goals and a defensive score, 20-17.

On the road at Dallas going out on a limb the Pats may need more than 17-20...last six home games going back to last season America's Team has put up 30, 40, 27, 54, 28, 49 points

 

[ALP]

since our WRs suck so much, let's start to employ the 3 TE offense this year...so cmon BoB, 2011 on crack

 

[BritPat]

Would love to see Rhamondre and Zeke both go for over 100 yards.

And need to see more of Boutte!

 

[Real fan 02]

Forgot they have Brandin Cooks. Really quiet start to the season for him just 4 catches for 39 yards.

Yes very odd for Cooks to have juju like numbers.. gilly looks like a shell of his former DPLOY self. Would be a revelation to get a win!

 

[Real fan 02]

Would love to see Rhamondre and Zeke both go for over 100 yards.

And need to see more of Boutte!

Absolutely agree more Boutte!! If juju isn't 100% then allow him time to get right and play the rookies..

 

[PatsfanTN]

Bill needs to bench juju and play more Bourne/Boutte/Douglas.

Sure Boutte/Douglas might make mistakes but. They at least have some upside and play ability.

Ju Ju has been TERRIBLE

 

[rkarp1]

the defense has to play like they did in week 1. if they have a repeat of the Miami game, they will lose. contain the edges, tackle well. Godcheaux's health will be a big factor. Larry Guy has played poorly to date. he and Barmore have to have big games. Wise was impressive against the Jets. he has to build on it. Will White bump inside?

who plays RT? Lowe with plenty of size and strength. he gave up a lot of pressures/hits against speed to his outside shoulder. against Dallas, is Anderson the better option? Strange/Mafi have to play better, but will not have to contend with Q Williams.

we get to see Douglas on a fast field. give Montgomery some snaps at slot. give Gesicki more snaps at slot. JuJu either not healthy, not in shape or not understanding the offense. he has been very bad so far. let him sit a bit.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

Dallas at home, national game....let's not underestimate the officiating for this one. Don't expect the Pats to get the benefit of any decisions. *****ing about the refs is for losers, but you can't expect even handed decisions on the road at Dallas

offense scoring 16.6 ppg and a total of 5 touchdowns, less than 2/game. these are not #s to beat Dallas away. The OL needs to gel and the WRs need separation to let OBrien open it up. I highly doubt the Pats can win Bills preferred way; a TD and 2 Field goals and a defensive score, 20-17.

On the road at Dallas going out on a limb the Pats may need more than 17-20...last six home games going back to last season America's Team has put up 30, 40, 27, 54, 28, 49 points

 

[Patsfan1958]

Game Preview: New England Patriots at Dallas Cowboys | NFL Week 4

2023 REGULAR SEASON	NEW ENGLAND	DALLAS
Record	1-2	2-1
Divisional Standings	3rd	2nd (T)
Total Yards Gained	1,028	1,063
Total Offense (Rank)	342.7 (13)	354.3 (11)
Rush Offense	107.0 (14)	147.0 (8)
Pass Offense	235.7 (11)	207.3 (18T)
Points Per Game	17.3 (26)	28.7 (5T)
Total Yards Allowed	811	786
Total Defense (Rank)	270.3 (5)	262.0 (4)
Rush Defense	93.3 (9)	131.3 (25
Pass Defense	177.0 (5)	130.7 (2)
Points Allowed/Game	19.7 (9T)	12.7 (3)
Possession Avg.	30:15	34:27
Sacks Allowed/Yards Lost	6/41	3/25
Sacks Made/Yards	7/45	12/77
Total Touchdowns Scored	6	8
Penalties Against/Yards	18/138	24/180
Punts/Avg.	17/43.5	8/50.4
Turnover Differential	-2 (20T)	+6 (1)