Updated Team Rushing Statistics/ Manning's 04 and Brady's 07

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Patriots rank 4th in the NFL in rushing yards per game. Colts rank 10th. How much longer does the media vaunt the Colts' multi-dimensional offense?

Brady in 2007 vs. Manning in 2004

Interesting note: More fodder for just how ridiculous Brady has been this year, and yet another myth exposed that Peyton chooses balance over statistics.

League rank, in rushing attempts

2007 Patriots: 4th
2004 Colts: 20th

Passing attempts/ rushing attempts

2007 Patriots: 346:316. 1.09.
2004 Colts: 527:427. 1.23.

Passing Attempts/ TD:

Brady, 2007: 8.89
Manning, 2004: 10.14


Bonus: Cherry Picking

Touchdowns from 5-yard line or inside:

Manning, 2004: 15/49. 30.6%
Brady, 2007: 11/38. 28.9%

 

[nowayback]

all the myths slowly being uncovered. good post ! manning missing harrison and all the national media is whining.

 

[DarrylS]

I think that this is the advertising effect, every time Manning shows up on a commercial people get confused about how he is a wonderful guy and he has great statistics.. in reality, the NFL has always been based on Myth and not on reality.. it sells their product better.

 

[He Ban Me]

Patriots rank 4th in the NFL in rushing yards per game. Colts rank 10th. How much longer does the media vaunt the Colts' multi-dimensional offense?

Brady in 2007 vs. Manning in 2004

Interesting note: More fodder for just how ridiculous Brady has been this year, and yet another myth exposed that Peyton chooses balance over statistics.

League rank, in rushing attempts

2007 Patriots: 4th
2004 Colts: 20th

Passing attempts/ rushing attempts

2007 Patriots: 346:316. 1.09.
2004 Colts: 527:427. 1.23.

Passing Attempts/ TD:

Brady, 2007: 8.89
Manning, 2004: 10.14


Bonus: Cherry Picking

Touchdowns from 5-yard line or inside:

Manning, 2004: 15/49. 30.6%
Brady, 2007: 11/38. 28.9%

I guess I don't understand why a TD pass inside the 5 would be considered "cherry picking"? The point is to put the ball in the end zone, correct? How about 4th qtr pass TD's up by 21 or more points?

 

[Satchboogie3]

The problem is that no one is letting this stuff out in the media outlets. People need to get some face time and let this stuff out.

 

[chrisfx811]

Manning's 2004 Colts rushed for 10 td's in the entire season, with Edge and Rhodes.
The Pats have already equalled that with 6 to go, with Morris & Maroney missing many games, and Eckel & Evans in there.

I love how the Pats one dimensional offense is 4th in the league in rushing and has a 52/48 pass/rush split.

 

[Ring 6]

I guess I don't understand why a TD pass inside the 5 would be considered "cherry picking"? The point is to put the ball in the end zone, correct? How about 4th qtr pass TD's up by 21 or more points?

I think the real gauge would be TD passes from inside the 2 (but not on 3rd down). Those would be plays that are very often run in, so it would illustrate pumping up TD passes that other QBs normally won't get, all things equal. Its not that there is anything wrong with it, its just accounting for the 'abnormal' ones.
As far as up 21 in the 4th, I don't think there would be much difference in the 2 anyway, but its not really a gauge. The defense isn't trying any less hard to stop you, and up 21 at the start of the 4th surely isn't a game over.

I think the perception was that Manning would run play-action on first and goal from the 1 to get a passing TD rather than a rushing TD when he was pursuing the record. Not sure if that is right or wrong really.
The bottom line is a passing TD record, is a passing TD record. Any teams QB who approaches it clearly is a team that is more successful throwing than running in the red zone.
I don't believe in making excuses for records,becuase then you'd have to go back and see if there are excuses for everyone else.

 

[Ring 6]

I think the real gauge would be TD passes from inside the 2 (but not on 3rd down). Those would be plays that are very often run in, so it would illustrate pumping up TD passes that other QBs normally won't get, all things equal. Its not that there is anything wrong with it, its just accounting for the 'abnormal' ones.
As far as up 21 in the 4th, I don't think there would be much difference in the 2 anyway, but its not really a gauge. The defense isn't trying any less hard to stop you, and up 21 at the start of the 4th surely isn't a game over.

I think the perception was that Manning would run play-action on first and goal from the 1 to get a passing TD rather than a rushing TD when he was pursuing the record. Not sure if that is right or wrong really.
The bottom line is a passing TD record, is a passing TD record. Any teams QB who approaches it clearly is a team that is more successful throwing than running in the red zone.
I don't believe in making excuses for records,becuase then you'd have to go back and see if there are excuses for everyone else.

By the way, the much more impressive records are most points scored and most TDs scored, which it looks like the Patriots are going to shatter.

 

[He Ban Me]

I think the real gauge would be TD passes from inside the 2 (but not on 3rd down). Those would be plays that are very often run in, so it would illustrate pumping up TD passes that other QBs normally won't get, all things equal. Its not that there is anything wrong with it, its just accounting for the 'abnormal' ones.
As far as up 21 in the 4th, I don't think there would be much difference in the 2 anyway, but its not really a gauge. The defense isn't trying any less hard to stop you, and up 21 at the start of the 4th surely isn't a game over.

I think the perception was that Manning would run play-action on first and goal from the 1 to get a passing TD rather than a rushing TD when he was pursuing the record. Not sure if that is right or wrong really.
The bottom line is a passing TD record, is a passing TD record. Any teams QB who approaches it clearly is a team that is more successful throwing than running in the red zone.
I don't believe in making excuses for records,becuase then you'd have to go back and see if there are excuses for everyone else.

I don't think Manning was looking at it saying, yeah, let's throw it in, I need a TD. He's trying to put 7 on the board, any way he can. Colts (IMO) have been HISTORICALLY BAD on short yardage situations. Seems like 3rd and 2-3 was ALWAYS a passing down, with 3rd and 1 being 50/50 propostion.