WesWelker83
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I am starting this thread for all who are in agreement or disagreement that we should trade up for Robert Quinn. I really think Quinn might drop in the draft down to the 8-11 range. We could trade 17 and 60 to Washington for the 10th pick. I could see Washington wanting to move down as well because they want a QB and the value isn't there at all at 10. They could still get their guy at 17 and pick up an extra pick. Washington has tons of needs and they need as many picks as they can get.
Anyways, I think Quinn is exactly what this team needs. Hes 6-5 270 which are the BB measureables and I expect him to run in the 4.6s. Quinn has an explosive first step and can bend the edge around the OT to the QB. This is one trait that not one OLB has on our entire team right now. His closing burst and quickness really stand out on film. I think his upside is unreal in this department as well. Right now he only has a speed rush and a rip move but BB could mold him into an unreal pass rusher once he learns more moves.
Versus the run he can set the edge and hold it. He plays with leverage and has a strong inital punch to discard blocks. He fights hard to work through blocks as well. Great wrap up tackler in small areas. He really moves well laterally. Hes disciplined and stays home vs misdirection and he plays with a high motor.
I haven't seen him in coverage ever but look at this from ESPN: Appears to have enough fluidity to hold up if asked to drop into coverage. How many times did Cunningham drop into coverage at Florida too? I don't ever remember him dropping and covering guys and I watched that Fla team alot.
Quinn made Anthony Costanzo look like garbage in pass protection in 09. This video is on youtube and shows many plays in the game. I saw Costanzo get the better of him twice in runs plays (one time when Quinn got blown off the ball and another when he didnt set the edge) and other then that Quinn demolished Costanzo.
Quinn isn't perfect. He needs to improve his instincts and he needs to improve his strength which will help him anchor against the run. Other then that I don't see any weaknesses besides lack of experience in coverage although his physical ability looks like he can hold up. I think his upside is unreal as well. Hes only 20 years old turning 21 in May.
We aren't going to win a Super Bowl with Cunningham, Ninkovich and TBC are our OLB core. I understand that pass rush can come in different areas like the DL but one way or another OLBs need to collapse the pocket with the DL. I know sacks aren't the "be all and end all" and that BB thinks pressures and hurries can be just as effective by forcing INTs but this team had one of the weakest pass rushes in the league at 36 sacks and the worst 3rd down % defense in the league. I still think our OLBs are weak at rushing and the stats back this up. I don't know if there is a website out there that tracks hurries and pressures but we sucked at this too.
We don't have Willie Mcginest, Mike Vrabel, Rosie Colvin, and Roman Phifer anymore. We need to go get the BB prototype and I am sorry to say I don't see another guy in this draft available that fits these requirements.
Do others think Quinn is the answer?
If not who is the best OLB in this draft for the Patriots.
Anyways, I think Quinn is exactly what this team needs. Hes 6-5 270 which are the BB measureables and I expect him to run in the 4.6s. Quinn has an explosive first step and can bend the edge around the OT to the QB. This is one trait that not one OLB has on our entire team right now. His closing burst and quickness really stand out on film. I think his upside is unreal in this department as well. Right now he only has a speed rush and a rip move but BB could mold him into an unreal pass rusher once he learns more moves.
Versus the run he can set the edge and hold it. He plays with leverage and has a strong inital punch to discard blocks. He fights hard to work through blocks as well. Great wrap up tackler in small areas. He really moves well laterally. Hes disciplined and stays home vs misdirection and he plays with a high motor.
I haven't seen him in coverage ever but look at this from ESPN: Appears to have enough fluidity to hold up if asked to drop into coverage. How many times did Cunningham drop into coverage at Florida too? I don't ever remember him dropping and covering guys and I watched that Fla team alot.
Quinn made Anthony Costanzo look like garbage in pass protection in 09. This video is on youtube and shows many plays in the game. I saw Costanzo get the better of him twice in runs plays (one time when Quinn got blown off the ball and another when he didnt set the edge) and other then that Quinn demolished Costanzo.
Quinn isn't perfect. He needs to improve his instincts and he needs to improve his strength which will help him anchor against the run. Other then that I don't see any weaknesses besides lack of experience in coverage although his physical ability looks like he can hold up. I think his upside is unreal as well. Hes only 20 years old turning 21 in May.
We aren't going to win a Super Bowl with Cunningham, Ninkovich and TBC are our OLB core. I understand that pass rush can come in different areas like the DL but one way or another OLBs need to collapse the pocket with the DL. I know sacks aren't the "be all and end all" and that BB thinks pressures and hurries can be just as effective by forcing INTs but this team had one of the weakest pass rushes in the league at 36 sacks and the worst 3rd down % defense in the league. I still think our OLBs are weak at rushing and the stats back this up. I don't know if there is a website out there that tracks hurries and pressures but we sucked at this too.
We don't have Willie Mcginest, Mike Vrabel, Rosie Colvin, and Roman Phifer anymore. We need to go get the BB prototype and I am sorry to say I don't see another guy in this draft available that fits these requirements.
Do others think Quinn is the answer?
If not who is the best OLB in this draft for the Patriots.