NFL News Tom Brady Retires (Update: Shouts out to Pats players, coaches on social media)

[Rob0729]

Source?

I heard that Ted Johnson said it on the radio yesterday that his sources around Kraft said Kraft was furious about the slight.

 

[bresna]

He could have just said "listen Brady gets extended and if it's one year too long, he's the one guy we are doing it for".

And how do you know that he did not say that? Everything we have read about Brady's last contract was that it was the contract Brady asked for. I just don't understand the posters on here who imply that a team can somehow force one of their free agent players to sign whatever contract they offer. Other than the Franchise Tag, teams cannot force a player to stay.

 

[sb1]

Bob Kraft, do you know who he is? Well he is furious that Brady insulted the Patriots. It is not just me, Hugger

That rumor was debunked. Not true.

 

[Kontradiction]

First of all, my comment had to do with Brady's retirement post, not about how Bill handled things a few years ago. I was merely saying that Brady sending a message to the Patriots organization that he was not happy with the team by leaving them out of the post was not the proper way to go. The fans were collateral damage in all of this and it didn't have to be that way.

Brady thanked the organization, BB, Kraft, and our narcissistic, little fan base when he left the Patriots. He’s leaving the Bucs now.

Second, yes, I made a knee-jerk reaction to last year's SB. After thinking about it for months, I have come to the conclusion that Brady needed a bunch of weapons to be successful his last couple years. His 2018-2019 numbers here in NE were not great. Godwin, Evans, Gronk, Brown, and Fournette elevated him. Bill didn't have anything to offer him in terms of talent (his own fault).

You came to the conclusion that a quarterback needs weapons at the skill positions to succeed? This is Earth-shattering stuff. Have you phoned the NFL offices to report your findings?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Yea it was just time for a split.. it was sad when it happened, but its understandable to see how it was just time for them to part ways

Brady would likely not have got the 7th ring if he stayed here during a rebuild. We had to endure 1 year of Cam and an inept offense, but then we got Mac Jones who got us to the playoffs as a rookie and looks to have a promising future

It went about as well as it could have gone, when you consider that Tom Sr stated he thought it was going to end very ugly

Tom leaving totally and completely sucked ass. It was painful. It was sad.

It was also overdue and I do not believe it was avoidable.

It was a marriage which had run its course and it took an event to realize a split was best for both parties.

Anything else that is said by Early Bird is PR spin.

I believe Tom does harbor some feelings of rejection and bitterness. I get it. I believe he feels for all he did for the organization the team should have "evolved" with him. Clearly BB and Kraft did not feel the need to reciprocate. Their priority was rebuilding a team for the long-term and a 42 year old QB with the contract demands he had did not fit the model.

I believe the absence of anything NEP-related in his retirement message was purposeful and authored with a steady hand. He intentionally left the NEP out of it. That was his choice and totally fine by me.

I personally don't give a **** nor do I feel entitled for Tom to thank me for being a fan. Nobody is entitled to anything in professional sports. The NEP demonstrated that in spades to Tom.

 

[patsfan13]

None of them are the goat. Please.

Montana was the Goat when he retired, which was when Brady was in HS. and continued as the undisputed Goat until the second half of Brady's career.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

You talk about the so called « real » pats fan that sh*t on him for the last two years?

There are idiots in any fan base. It comes with the territory. Brady always seemed to know that and previously ignored the idiots.

Tom literally thanked us two years ago when he left. He also did a 10 part documentary that aired during the season where he talk exclusively about his time in NE. Thanking everyone, pointing out how instrumental Bill was in his development etc etc.

Yup. Thanking someone twice is not a bad thing. When I am grateful, I commonly say "Thanks" more than once. You have never had someone in your life that helped you out and later thanked them twice?

And Tom got paid for the documentary. What does getting paid to do a show have to do with being polite and respectful in life?

But all the people are hang up on is he didn’t thank us in an instagram post. Tom Brady doesn’t owe us anything. In fact WE should thank HIM for all he has brought to this organization and to us

Yes true. And we do thank him for all of his sacrifices and time in New England. Of course we thank him in a polite and respectful manner.

He had earned the right to finish his career in NE and got robbed of it by Bill and spineless Bob. I have 0 doubt in my mind that Brady would trade his SB in Tampa for the opportunity to finish his career in NE.

Tom is part of a players union. The players rights are defined in the collectively bargained agreement. You might not agree with the agreement but it was the players that insisted on the collective bargaining, and I think they were right to do that. Free agency is a part of the agreement that the players insisted on. Tom insisted on removing the "franchise tag" opportunity from his last deal so he was a free agent.

I wish he finished his career here, but he did seem happier with his family in FL. FL is more fashion and glitz (he built a retirement home outside Miami) than Boston, and Gisele never liked the winter here being from southern Brazil. Tom seemed rejuvenated in FL, he got his $25M for two years, and had fun. I am happy for him. It seemed like a good move for his kids too.

I am not sure why you are so angry at the whole situation and feel the need to insult people?

Tom thanked the Univ. of MI, so he purposely left out all his fans in NE. That was Tom's choice. I am not sure why he did that, but clearly it was not polite and respectful to the fan base. The fans are not responsible for the Patriots organization and always supported Tom. It is nice in life to say "Thanks for the support", even more than once.

 

[VectorPrime]

“Yeah kid I was at Paddys Pub down in Quincy Center back in 2001 and Tawm came in one night and I lent him a twenty for a cab back to Marina Bay and he never paid me back. Smug as.shole never cared about me or US”

 

[sb1]

I believe Tom does harbor some feelings of rejection and bitterness. I get it.

I think he does too. I mean you can even hear some resentment in Drew Bledsoe today for the decision 20 years ago so why wouldn't Brady have similar feelings? Dude is human. It's normal to feel that way.

I don't think Brady purposely snubbed the Patriots I think his retirement statement was all about the Bucs. He already said goodbye to us. That's just how he rolls. One chapter complete and turn the page to the next one.

If he snubs the Patriots at his HOF induction that's a different story, but he won't.

 

[bresna]

Wonder if there is any subtle messaging in the fact that he's on a duck boat with Pats logo that has no passengers with him

Although not as common today, retirement was often called "Sailing off into the sunset". Maybe you're too young to get that message?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Brady thanked the organization, BB, Kraft, and our narcissistic, little fan base when he left the Patriots. He’s leaving the Bucs now.



You came to the conclusion that a quarterback needs weapons at the skill positions to succeed? This is Earth-shattering stuff. Have you phoned the NFL offices to report your findings?

Not really. Brady won super bowls early in his career without skilled players on offense. The only other quarterback I know who won multiple super bowls without a talented offense was Montana in 1981 and 1984. Even Eli had Plaxico Burress.

 

[patsfan13]

Source?

Ted Johnson:

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I believe Tom does harbor some feelings of rejection and bitterness. I get it.

He needs to get over it. He still thinks about being drafted 199th in 2000...he really needs to move on. It worked out well for him.

 

[farn]

You do realize how ridiculous this sounds when you spend a good majority of your time on a football forum that is literally occupied by 1% of the Fanbase. That is pretty much textbook definition of an emotional attachment.

to the team as it is a form of entertainment and diversion... not as the QB's bf.

 

[patsfan13]

Brady thanked the organization, BB, Kraft, and our narcissistic, little fan base when he left the Patriots. He’s leaving the Bucs now.



You came to the conclusion that a quarterback needs weapons at the skill positions to succeed? This is Earth-shattering stuff. Have you phoned the NFL offices to report your findings?

I personally don't care but let's be honest there is a HUGE difference between moving on from a team and retiring from the Sport.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

If you owe him nothing, and he owes you nothing, then why do you care or consider it strange? One of two reasons -

1) You feel he owes you something.

2) You actually care.

But we know it’s not number two because you then said…

Or I believe in being civil in a mature and balanced society. I believe that it is advantageous to collectively acting in a civil manner. Being polite and respectful of others is not a bad thing. "Actually care"? Sure. I care about PatsFans, @Ian has put a lot of work into it, and if Ian closed PatsFans, it would be civil of him to write a thank you note to all of the posters. "Actually care" like I care about my family, kids, wife, etc.? No. There are different levels of commitment, and we all commit more or less depending on our personalities and situations. That is why it is constructive to be polite and respectful, and say thanks. Even say thanks more than once.

I see a lot of crying. If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t comment. As for the last sentence, I really don’t think you want to exchange insults with me. I’ll chalk it up to you being snowed in and let that one slide.

Not sure why it is important to be a manly man and out muscle posters on a message board. We all care, we are here, it is a forum which is a form of entertainment. We only participate in forms of entertainment we enjoy.

 

[RIpats88]

Tom leaving totally and completely sucked ass. It was painful. It was sad.

It was also overdue and I do not believe it was avoidable.

It was a marriage which had run its course and it took an event realize a split was best for both parties.

Anything else that is said by Early Bird is PR spin.

I believe Tom does harbor some feelings of rejection and bitterness. I get it. I believe he feels for all he did for the organization the team should have "evolved" with him. Clearly BB and Kraft did not feel the need to reciprocate. Their priority was rebuilding a team for the long-term and a 42 year old QB with the contract demands he had did not fit the model.

I believe the absence of anything NEP-related in his retirement message was purposeful and authored with a steady hand. He intentionally left the NEP out of it. That was his choice and totally fine by me.

I personally don't give a **** nor do I feel entitled for Tom to thank me for being a fan. Nobody is entitled to anything in professional sports. The NEP demonstrated that in spades to Tom.

also, it was a move that worked out for Tom as well. how happy would he have been on the 2020 and 2021(which wouldve been worse) rosters? would've spent 2 years on a rebuilding team struggling like he did in 2019 and retired.

instead he gets to go to the bucs. throw to elite pass catchers and win a superbowl

 

[patsfan13]

 

[sb1]

A Brady led Patriots makes the playoffs in 2020 and I still think they would be getting ready to go to LA if he was still here. IMO

 

[RobertWeathers]

I think he does too. I mean you can even hear some resentment in Drew Bledsoe today for the decision 20 years ago so why wouldn't Brady have similar feelings? Dude is human. It's normal to feel that way.

I don't think Brady purposely snubbed the Patriots I think his retirement statement was all about the Bucs. He already said goodbye to us. That's just how he rolls. One chapter complete and turn the page to the next one.

If he snubs the Patriots at his HOF induction that's a different story, but he won't.

I'll disagree here. Not mentioning the team he played 20+ years in a retirement message is pretty notable. This was a career retirement- not a leaving the team/fan base message. In the grand scheme of things it's not a huge snub. Maybe the DEFCON 4 of shade?

I don't blame Tom one bit for it and I have no issue with it.

I am a bit confused as Tom has said a number of wonderful things about Kraft and the NEP org during the documentary, press conferences, podcasts, etc and he accidentally leaves mentioning the team out out his retirement message?

Not buying it.

I think it more about Tom not looking like a doormat and thanking the team that didn't want to bend for him.

It's gonna take Kraft to reach out and suck up to Tom for him to come back here for any type of ceremony.