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  1. TBR

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    This doesn't make you more knowledgable than anyone who doesn't.
     
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    OK, fair enough. I spend a good deal of my professional time with scientists who get attacked for speaking their truth, so am sensitive to this issue. I overreacted then.

    I'll stick with the position that the scientific method and the word "guess" are opposites.
     
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    Me too, just enough to make sure I'm getting everything I can absorb, and not having time periods where an accident of diet leaves me depleted. That, tumeric, and n-acetyl-l-cysteine, and exercising heartily several times a week to keep the lungs health.
     
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    Tom is just coming to the realization that after football he will need a day job.
     
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    In legal circles, there is something called "venue shopping." You seek out the federal judge whose politics make it likely that they will issue an injunction, oversee the trial, etc., so as to produce the outcome you desire. In science, one may follow the same procedure. In every field there are accredited individuals who reject the prevailing paradigm. If you don't like what most of the experts on the subject on saying, go with the guy - or gal - who contradicts them. Of course, such choices are rarely made with the prefrontal cortex but most often with the limbic system.
     
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    They certainly are, but our science is limited to our ability to accumulate and interpret relevant data. If we were advanced enough to create exact scientific models in this area, the truth would not need to be "analyzed painstakingly, debated, reviewed, put out for comment." It would be scientific fact. We no longer need to debate whether the earth is flat.

    So you're right. Guess is certainly diminishing. But it is not scientific fact either. It's authority's best opinion. If the public can't handle whatever term you want for it, I think it's wrong for scientists to take it further.
     
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    What team is Brady with?
    What is this thread about?

    Is it about Tom's trouser worm? Are we calling it "Snake Oil?"

    Go Stidham

    Go Pats
     
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    Certainly not the intellectual equal of someone who watches youtube videos as their primary source of information.
     
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    Not Zinc. But elderberry. And the answer is not doctors, but doctor. Yes. Verbatim. & a very good med. school at that. Works at an ER in Royal Oak, MI.
     
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    Here's my elixir with Vitamin C and Zinc.
     
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    Not at all if you read my post. I’m not accusing Brady of anything. Just think its interesting he talks about Guerrero in that same way. Conte was accused of fraud too... just like Guerrero was. We know what the real story is now with Conte. Let’s just say Bill was right to be concerned about Guerrero’s association with Patriots players.
     
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    You can't pick the judge, only the particular judicial district...hence, that's why it's called "venue shopping" and not "judge shopping."
     
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    maybe not.
    I only stated this to give background on my experience and not to be boastful.
    I have an M.D. and I work for a large pharmaceutical company. My job every day involves reading scientific publications and trying to determine strengths and weaknesses of their methodology.

    I will readily admit that the alternative medicine and supplement literature takes a very different approach than mainstream medical literature.

    I just want to caution that frequently the data supporting supplements, herbals and or alternative medicine is not held to the same rigor that agencies such as the FDA require for prescription medication.

    Tom Brady in my view as a football player is the greatest QB who ever played and I will always be a huge fan of his forever, wherever he plays.

    But as far as his TB12 company and Alex Guerrero I am extremely skeptical and to me it seems like a money making marketing company with weak to non existent robust data to support their claims.
     
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    I remember saying early in his career, during my days as an AOLe, that Tom will go into politics. I feel even stronger about that now. Gisele probably wants to become another Melania, who btw is the most beautiful first lady I've ever seen.
     
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    Leave Tom Brady alone. Vitamins and nutrients along with exercise, fresh air, sunshine, clean water and stress management are the preventative and the cure- not snake oil. A rushed to market vaccine by computer nerd, depopulation advocate turned "health expert" Bill Gates IS snake oil. NO liability for vaccine damage by law. Gargantuan big pharma companies have criminal track records and billions in liability payouts except for vaccines where they were made immune by a corrupt congress. What incentive is there for genuine safety trials for vaccines where there is no penalty for killing and permanently damaging people? Go listen to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a voice crying in the wilderness of money, corruption and medical tyranny. He's not even anti-vax in principle but the way it is now he is opposed to this madness. You guys instead rag on Brady for caring about helping people by selling something good? Bill Gates compared his promised rushed to market experimental RNA/DNA vaccine to rolling out new hardware and software at the same time. What could go wrong? We know he uses human guinea pigs in Africa where he "plunges it into the arm" of poor kids and they later drop dead yet the press releases tout success. There is your SNAKE OIL.
     
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    Bill Gates is no longer a board member with Microsoft and is concentrating on his philanthropy ventures. Since 2000 he has contributed 36 billion into his foundation. He may not have the correct vaccine for covid - 19, but the debate ends there. Leave Tom Brady alone?
     
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    Give every man thine ear...
     
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    Brady has a Tom Cruise like intensity but his field of knowledge is extremely limited from what I have seen.
     
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