Thru week 6 Amendola has only proven his critics correct…

[Rob0729]

He should have slid, that's on him.

Regarding his groin, he put pressure on it trying to stop when he was actually irrelevant to the play at that point. Granted he could have done that when trying to cut with the same result, it was already injured in camp and he simply reinjured it. It’d be nice to know how he injured it in the first place but the basic process is the same.

So even though a WR who slides is a still a live player and he could have gotten crushed even worse with two defenders diving on him, that is what he should do. You are advising him to to make himself completely defenseless and even more open to injuries? You do realize the slide rule is only for QBs?

It is funny that Amendola is now getting killed for stuff that Brandon Lloyd got killed for never doing and Welker got praised for doing all the time.

And the groin issue, I agree that Amendola should have just kept running until he crashed into the stands. What player actually stops when they are irrelevant to the play. You run until you hit a bench, cheerleader, or grandstand. That is how you run.

This thread has gone from stupid to bizzarre to arguably the best and most insightful thread of the day if it was on Jets Insider.

 

[Brady6]

I'm sorry I thought I was asking the guy who claims to deal in facts.

Andy you should just make your signature something ignorant and you can save so much time having to actually write out these ignorant statements.

 

[Patsrock]

Grok is on pace for 0's across the board. If that pace continues for the yr. Cut him. 5.4m is too much for zeros

 

[Patsrock]

I wish people would stop saying Amendola should have slid. Slide protection is only for QB's.

And if he did slide the outrage at him by the same people would be insane

 

[Huckleberry1]

But I now want to be him.

lmao.....................

 

[Brady6]

Not when he's being held up by a defender. But, far be it from you to admit that..

Phew… guess it was a good thing he wasn’t being held up by a defender then.. otherwise what I said would have been an option.

 

[Rob0729]

I wish people would stop saying Amendola should have slid. Slide protection is only for QB's.

But when are you safer from serious injury than when you are flat on your back and unable to protect yourself?

 

[DaBruinz]

I would just cut him loose personally, resign Edelman for $2-$3 mil and invest the rest into some other position other outside of the slot. We also have T.J. Moe returning next season and he can backup Edelman and we can attempt to develop him.

I am not angry AB I just don’t understand why when someone disagrees with my position on something they feel it is necessary to respond in a demeaning manner, if you look at my posts I never just up and attack anyone, ever you could read all 2400 of them and you could not find a single in which I went at someone unprovoked, but if someone wants to say something like stupid thread or provide some arrogant superior latent response I stand up for myself, I am not going to let people just bounce around thinking they can run off at the mouth as they please, that is not how the real world works and just because this is the internet it should not be treated any differently.

So, in other words, other people can't have an opinion that you disagree with and not have you attack them.

Sure sounds to be like you are pretty arrogant about it. As for it not being how the real world works, you clearly don't understand the real world.

 

[Brady6]

But I now want to be him.

OMG me too!!! He is so dreamy!

 

[DaBruinz]

For the record I would opened the thread whether he suffered the head injury or not, he was playing injured even before the concussion and has been unproductive in the last 2 weeks catching less than 50% of his targets and making minimal impact even with the balls he has pulled in. The concussion to me is a non-factor in my opinion, he had at least 1 drop, he let up and then tried to turn it back on when Brady overthrew him, overall the guy has been injured and unimpressive.

I love when people like you start talking about the number of targets a person catches and you fail to mention things like poorly thrown passes or passes defensed. It just goes to show the lack of knowledge on your part.

 

[DaBruinz]

You people saying it's only 6 games in are missing the point entirely, to such an incredible degree that it appears you're being stupid on purpose. This is not a rookie and this is not the first 6 games of an NFL career. This is a player that came onto our team with the label of injury prone already, and is now going to be missing time with his 2nd injury this year. Even if you take this one dirty hit situation off the record, the first injury and his prior record of missing games made the point true already. Failing to accept reality does not make you a better fan. Staying at a stadium for a full game instead of leaving at the 2:00 mark? Better fan. Preaching that water is dry, the Pope is Jewish, and the world is flat? Just dumb.

Only dumb people labeled him "injury prone" prior to his joining the Pats. Particularly considering the catastrophic nature of the 2 injuries he'd sustained. It is these people who are failing to accept reality and are just dumb.

It is entirely possible to appreciate Amendola as a person and a player but still understand the extremely obvious fact that building an offense with the expectation of him playing a full season is folly. I'm glad he's on the team. I like him. I do not like him at his current salary, nor do I think we had any business fielding him as a primary veteran receiver. He's WR3/4 because he can't stay on the field. The point that BB should've known that himself is not only valid but undeniable at this point. That said, we would probably have an easier time moving on from the mistake if there wasn't an odd contingent of people being willfully oblivious. You think BB doesn't know he goofed? C'mon man.

Really? It's sheer folly to look at the fact that, prior to the two catastrophic injuries he'd suffered that he'd not missed a game due to injury in his career? You do realize that the Torn ACL and the busted clavicle were just that. Catastrophic injuries.

Making up stuff about him beyond that is just dumb. Claiming that BB should expect more catastrophic injuries for Amendola is just dumb. Sorry, but the people who are so willfully oblivious are the ones who don't have all the facts about Amendola.

 

[Deus Irae]

That’s fair D, for me it is more about his play and I would have opened it regardless, the head injury is like whatever in my opinion it would have been something else at some point, but either way other than week 1 he has not played well and I do not think it is a good idea to pay a player $5 mil so he can go out play great opening day but suffer an injury in the process that will then linger with him and diminish his play all season. He limped off the field after the missed touchdown with him and Brady, he drops balls in both of the last 2 contests, I mean I get it maybe I should have acknowledged he hit his head and gave it a few days but the basis for this thread is still the fact that 6 weeks in Amendola has not proven his critics wrong.

It's still just the first 6 weeks of the deal, though, and the problem is that the situation is being magnified by Gronk's injury and the lack of other established WRs.

Look at it this way: If the Patriots had kept Welker and signed Amendola, this wouldn't be such a hot button issue. If the Patriots had kept Welker and Lloyd (or found a suitable veteran Lloyd replacement) and Gronk was healthy, and those veterans were all playing well, this would only matter to the small cadre of hardcore Chicken Little posters.

But, when you take what's actually happened, and you toss in the fact that this particular injury is a concussion as opposed to a sprain or something, you get this thread.

 

[Snake Eyes]

So even though a WR who slides is a still a live player and he could have gotten crushed even worse with two defenders diving on him, that is what he should do. You are advising him to to make himself completely defenseless and even more open to injuries? You do realize the slide rule is only for QBs?

It is funny that Amendola is now getting killed for stuff that Brandon Lloyd got killed for never doing and Welker got praised for doing all the time.

And the groin issue, I agree that Amendola should have just kept running until he crashed into the stands. What player actually stops when they are irrelevant to the play. You run until you hit a bench, cheerleader, or grandstand. That is how you run.

This thread has gone from stupid to bizzarre to arguably the best and most insightful thread of the day if it was on Jets Insider.

1 - Do you ever let your car coast, neither giving it gas nor putting on the brakes, letting it slow down on it’s own? Plenty of players do that when they run, it conserves energy and lessens their likelihood of injury.

2 – They hit him high which means he’d have been fine down low, he was willingly taking on the contact. You bring up Lloyd, he knew how to slide just fine and he played in a lot more games than Amendola has, I really don’t care that people on this board criticized him for, you need to be in the game in order to produce and Amendola isn’t producing.

 

[TriplecHamp]

1 - Do you ever let your car coast, neither giving it gas nor putting on the brakes, letting it slow down on it’s own? Plenty of players do that when they run, it conserves energy and lessens their likelihood of injury.

2 – They hit him high which means he’d have been fine down low, he was willingly taking on the contact. You bring up Lloyd, he knew how to slide just fine and he played in a lot more games than Amendola has, I really don’t care that people on this board criticized him for, you need to be in the game in order to produce and Amendola isn’t producing.

this is probably the best way to get injured.

 

[DaBruinz]

If you watch the play you’ll see he slowed up and then turned it back on.

Never happened. Amendola never let up on that play. Brady over-threw him. Plain and simple.

As I said man for me the concussion is a non-factor and changes nothing, he missed the 4 quarter yesterday because of that, my issue is with the injuries prior and his lackluster performance when on the field in weeks 5 and 6.

If you watch the play you’ll see he slowed up and then turned it back on.

As I said man for me the concussion is a non-factor and changes nothing, he missed the 4th quarter yesterday because of that, my issue is with the injuries prior and his lackluster performance when on the field in weeks 5 and 6, injured or not injured he has dropped at least 3 balls in the last 2 weeks that a $5 mil receiver should be catching.

You're issue is with the ONE groin injury that he had prior to yesterday's game? Or is it with the Catastrophic injuries he suffered while with the Rams??

I love how people like you determine what a $5m dollar player should and shouldn't be doing. You do realize that Welker had a ridiculous number of drops last year. And Welker actually has more drops than Amendola does. Nah.. You probably don't realize that. You just overlook those sorts of things..

 

[Brady6]

So, in other words, other people can't have an opinion that you disagree with and not have you attack them.

Sure sounds to be like you are pretty arrogant about it. As for it not being how the real world works, you clearly don't understand the real world.

No what it means is if I disagree with a person’s position or opinion on a matter I do not feel the need to insult them, demean them, belittle them or anything else along those lines when I comment with my opposing view. Arrogant about being respectful to other human beings yes, yes I am arrogant about it, I guess you could say I take not being an ill-mannered white trash piece of **** seriously. Maybe in high school or whatever grade you’re in the real world makes fun of each other and looks for every opportunity to use an insulting word or phrase but in big kid land those people generally bounce between their baby mama’s section 8 apartment and county jail.

I love the arrogance comment so much I really have to comment on it twice because I have heard that a few times today I mean really the disgust and dismay of “brady6 how dare you expect us adults to be respectful to one another and not insult, belittle and demean when speaking to one another” or “there that brady6 goes thinking people shouldn’t call each other idiots or failures again, the nerve he has” I am with you DaBruinz seriously who do I think I am riding up on my high horse thinking you should be able to respond to me without calling me a failure, moron or idiot.

 

[DaBruinz]

I agree with you Rob. He is a great receiver, when healthy. Unfortunately, the pattern throughout his career has been one where he is in and out of the line up.

I really didnt mind the signing for WR depth. Unfortunately, that is not what he was brought in to do. He was brought in to replace the most consistent WR in the league. That decision was folly.

Really? Guess you really didn't look into Amendola's career at all because the only games he missed his first two years were not because of injury but because of a coach's decision.

It was during his 3rd year that he had the catastrophic injury during the 2nd game of the season. And in his 4th year, he missed time because of the broken clavicle that nearly killed him (piece of the bone missed his Aorta by 2mm). But, yeah, he's always in and out of the line-up.

What is FOLLY is saying that Welker is the most consistent WR in the league. I put Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson, Anquan Boldin, and numerous others ahead of Welker in terms of consistency. What Welker DID have was 6 years of rapport with Brady. And it was that rapport that made the duo great.

 

[manxman2601]

Really? Guess you really didn't look into Amendola's career at all because the only games he missed his first two years were not because of injury but because of a coach's decision.

It was during his 3rd year that he had the catastrophic injury during the 2nd game of the season. And in his 4th year, he missed time because of the broken clavicle that nearly killed him (piece of the bone missed his Aorta by 2mm). But, yeah, he's always in and out of the line-up.

What is FOLLY is saying that Welker is the most consistent WR in the league. I put Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson, Anquan Boldin, and numerous others ahead of Welker in terms of consistency. What Welker DID have was 6 years of rapport with Brady. And it was that rapport that made the duo great.

It was fairly consistent rapport though

 

[Rob0729]

1 - Do you ever let your car coast, neither giving it gas nor putting on the brakes, letting it slow down on it’s own? Plenty of players do that when they run, it conserves energy and lessens their likelihood of injury.

So you wish Amendola was a weak chicken **** WR as a slot receiver. You want him to replace Welker by being the antiWelker? Where Welker would fight for an extra yard or two, you want Amendola to give himself up and slide.

Sorry, but what Amendola did on that play was the right way to do it.

2 – They hit him high which means he’d have been fine down low, he was willingly taking on the contact. You bring up Lloyd, he knew how to slide just fine and he played in a lot more games than Amendola has, I really don’t care that people on this board criticized him for, you need to be in the game in order to produce and Amendola isn’t producing.

Lloyd was an outside receiver. He would catch the ball and go down. Slot receivers get hit. That is the nature of the position. If you want Amendola to avoid contact, make his an outside deep threat WR. Those guys rarely get tackled.

And if Amendola went down, he could have gotten injured worse. Typically

 

[Brady6]

Re: Re: Thru week 6 Amendola has only proven his critics correct…

It's still just the first 6 weeks of the deal, though, and the problem is that the situation is being magnified by Gronk's injury and the lack of other established WRs.

Look at it this way: If the Patriots had kept Welker and signed Amendola, this wouldn't be such a hot button issue. If the Patriots had kept Welker and Lloyd (or found a suitable veteran Lloyd replacement) and Gronk was healthy, and those veterans were all playing well, this would only matter to the small cadre of hardcore Chicken Little posters.

But, when you take what's actually happened, and you toss in the fact that this particular injury is a concussion as opposed to a sprain or something, you get this thread.

True point on the thread I should have just waited until the head injury was no longer in the picture, because instead I have just tried 1000 different angles to attempt to convey that the head injury is not a factor in my opinion of Amendola to no aveal.

At the very least I have my quota for being insulted met for for 2013 and at least the first half of 2014.