The PFT/Florio canard

[Deus Irae]

Read Florio for the news, not the editorials. Understand that he bashes every team, not just the Patriots, because it drives traffic. Realize that he's a Liberal interventionist.


Problem solved

 

[Oswlek]

Don't read Florio

Problem solved

FTFY.

 

[Tunescribe]

Read Florio for the news, not the editorials.

How do you draw the distinction?

 

[Deus Irae]

How do you draw the distinction?

News

According to WEWS-TV in Cleveland, a federal judge has approved a proposed settlement agreement for a class action filed in the Eastern District of Arkansas.

Pilot Flying J reaches agreement to settle class-action lawsuits | ProFootballTalk

Editorializing;

At some point, the “Patriot Way” gave way to bargain shopping.At some point, the “Patriot Way” gave way to bargain shopping.

?Buying low? blows up again on Patriots | ProFootballTalk

 

[jmt57]

I have the distinct impression that all 32 NFL fan bases truly believe that Florio hates the team they root for. He forms divisive opinions that are done in order to create a reaction. It's not uncommon for him to back a team on a topic one day, and the next take the opposite side.

Similar to many sports talk radio hosts, the posturing is all an act. It is a successful business plan done to elicit a response which increases the number of clicks, views and listeners, which drives ad revenue.

It's not that Florio hates the Patriots or any other team; he simply loves controversy, because that puts money in his pocket.


Simple solution is to avoid those that utilize that gossip-centric business plan and seek out those that break down film and analyze matchups in order to formulate opinions on players, teams and their games.

 

[Zeus]

I agree with Deus. PFT is a pretty good clearinghouse for hard news about the NFL, but that's about it..

Florio thinks he's one of the cool kids since he gets to hang out with the NFL big shots. In reality he's a tool. Savvy front office types know that Florio will print pretty much anything they tell him, so they spoon feed him their agenda, be it the truth or whatever information/misinformation/disinformation suits their purposes at any point in time.

So if Florio is editorializing or passing along some spicy tidbit from an unnamed source, it's in all likelihood pure, underadulterated bull****. Buyer beware.

 

[Tunescribe]

News




Pilot Flying J reaches agreement to settle class-action lawsuits | ProFootballTalk

Editorializing;



?Buying low? blows up again on Patriots | ProFootballTalk

I was being sarcastic, but thanks anyway.

 

[Rob0729]

I agree with Deus. PFT is a pretty good clearinghouse for hard news about the NFL, but that's about it..

Florio thinks he's one of the cool kids since he gets to hang out with the NFL big shots. In reality he's a tool. Savvy front office types know that Florio will print pretty much anything they tell him, so they spoon feed him their agenda, be it the truth or whatever information/misinformation/disinformation suits their purposes at any point in time.

So if Florio is editorializing or passing along some spicy tidbit from an unnamed source, it's in all likelihood pure, underadulterated bull****. Buyer beware.

Florio is a master of playing both sides to get everyone riled up to get more unique visitors. During Spygate, he would ping pong back and forth between pro and anti Patriots commentary. Hence why Patriots haters think he is a Patriots but kisser and Pats fans think he is a hater. Either way, he wins because he gets more clicks that ups his ad rates.

 

[Uncle Rico]

How do you draw the distinction?

As Deus points out, there is a fairly clear distinction, and most of us should be able to tell the difference.

The problem is that more and more media have intentionally blurred the distinction, intermingling the two in ways and to degrees that would have been unheard of 20 years ago. Once upon a time most media — newspapers, magazines and broadcast — would take great care to label opinion as just that, in some way. It was once actually a sacred division, and it still is at the more reputable outlets. But for many, especially the big names with shiny web sites and TV links — it's caveat emptor. Everyone from Florio (whom I avoid) to Reiss presents us with news and opinion under the same banner, with the same typography and colors, on the same page. You're on your own to discern the difference, and if you can't — hey, "not my problem."

 

[Jackson 2]

As Deus points out, there is a fairly clear distinction, and most of us should be able to tell the difference.

The problem is that more and more media have intentionally blurred the distinction, intermingling the two in ways and to degrees that would have been unheard of 20 years ago. Once upon a time most media — newspapers, magazines and broadcast — would take great care to label opinion as just that, in some way. It was once actually a sacred division, and it still is at the more reputable outlets. But for many, especially the big names with shiny web sites and TV links — it's caveat emptor. Everyone from Florio (whom I avoid) to Reiss presents us with news and opinion under the same banner, with the same typography and colors, on the same page. You're on your own to discern the difference, and if you can't — hey, "not my problem."

Excellent point. At one time, columnists (Shank, Gasper, Ryan, Borges, MacMullen et al) were, by definition, those who wrote opinion pieces. Beat writers were reporters who related what happened on the field, court or ice and rarely ventured into opinion. Now, it seems that everyone, regardless of her/his designation, is more columnist than reporter. And in the Boston market, the absolute fastest way to sink to the bottom of the media totem pole is to be labeled a "homer" by your peers. Unfortunately, one earns the label of "homer" around here by merely being unbiased and honest. Just the way it works in the "fellowship of the miserable" (just about the only thing Rick Pitino ever got right around here, other than when he coached at PC.)

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[Deus Irae]

...Unfortunately, one earns the label of "homer" around here by merely being unbiased and honest....

You were doing great right up until this point. Then you lost your mind.

 

[Jackson 2]

You were doing great right up until this point. Then you lost your mind.

That pre-supposes I have one to lose. Point of clarification: I was referring to media members, not posters here. At any rate, your contention that I lost my mind is interpreted by me as a compliment. Thank you!

 

[Joker]

Personally, my truth is I define and refine MY opinions on all things related to the Patriots right here on THIS board. There's more than a few "professionals" that would get eaten alive here if they posted some of the garbage that makes it to print. If Florio's site has cogent information, it will get posted here anyway. I don't like to give his site the hit because, let's face it, I can't stand the azzole. If he ran his mouth in public like he does with his op pieces on his site, he'd be eating meals through a straw...and you know what?...he KNOWS it too.

 

[Rob0729]

Florio is incredible. He took that video where Brady said that Hernandez and Spikes "are a lot to handle" and blown it out of proportions:

Brady, Tebow shared concerns about Hernandez in 2011 | ProFootballTalk

After the first one, coming in December 2011 and at the height of Tebowmania, the two quarterbacks shared concerns about Aaron Hernandez and Brandon Spikes, who played with Tebow at the University of Florida and then with Brady on the Patriots.

“I’m trying to watch over Aaron and Brandon,” Brady says to Tebow in an NFL Films video, via the Orlando Sentinel.

“I appreciate that, too, man. They’re good guys,” Tebow says in response.

“[T]hey’re a lot to handle,” Brady adds.

While those concerns, along with Hernandez’s various red flags coming out of Gainesville, don’t project to murder, it shows that the Patriots knew or should have known that Hernandez had baggage before giving him a $12.5 million signing bonus in 2012. As Ben Volin of the Boston Globe pointed out earlier this month, Hernandez bristled when Patriots coaches and employees asked him to break free from his friends in Connecticut.

We have no idea what Brady was saying. Was he saying they are problem children, just wild guys, or monsters on the field. To say Brady is expressing concerns and this is proof the Pats should have known better to re-sign Hernandez based on a 10 second, three sentence exchange is a little sensationalistic to say the least.

If Brady had legitimate concerns about Hernandez and wanted to discuss them with Tebow, do you really think he would do it in a ten second conversation on the field?

 

[JMC00]

Florio is incredible. He took that video where Brady said that Hernandez and Spikes "are a lot to handle" and blown it out of proportions:

Brady, Tebow shared concerns about Hernandez in 2011 | ProFootballTalk

 

[Deus Irae]

That pre-supposes I have one to lose. Point of clarification: I was referring to media members, not posters here. At any rate, your contention that I lost my mind is interpreted by me as a compliment. Thank you!

This post of yours is a great example of why you're not worth taking seriously and how you're one of the worst, most unthinking, homers on the board, so thanks for yet another demonstration of that.

 

[Deus Irae]

Personally, my truth is I define and refine MY opinions on all things related to the Patriots right here on THIS board. There's more than a few "professionals" that would get eaten alive here if they posted some of the garbage that makes it to print. If Florio's site has cogent information, it will get posted here anyway. I don't like to give his site the hit because, let's face it, I can't stand the azzole. If he ran his mouth in public like he does with his op pieces on his site, he'd be eating meals through a straw...and you know what?...he KNOWS it too.

He also does far too much comment moderation, especially of anything that is critical of his editorialized stuff. He's very thin-skinned that way.

 

[Danger Zone]

Re: Re: The PFT/Florio canard

This post of yours is a great example of why you're not worth taking seriously and how you're one of the worst, most unthinking, homers on the board, so thanks for yet another demonstration of that.

Jesus, how about you tone it down just once in a while would you?

Seriously.

Would you but choose not to put such intentional effort into being such an obnoxious condescending/judgemental bully, you would be honestly admired and respected around here just for your football knowledge alone.

 

[Froob]

That and I hate how Florio puts his political opinion in a lot of the articles. He's free to do that but that doesn't make it any less annoying. He acts as if there is no other sides to a lot of these issues.

 

[Jackson 2]

This post of yours is a great example of why you're not worth taking seriously and how you're one of the worst, most unthinking, homers on the board, so thanks for yet another demonstration of that.

My God, you are a pompous, self-absorbed gasbag. I've stated it before and I'll state it again: I know others around here feel the same as I do, but for some unknown reason they're intimidated by you. Well, I 'm not intimidated by you here, I wouldn't be in person or via any other type of contact. You're a first-class jackass and if that results in me being sanctioned somehow here, so be it - it'll be worth it.