The Pats run is over.......

[pats1]

It was said on ESPN today that there's a 0% chance of us retaining Samuel, which I find absurd. That just doesn't make any sense. And lol at Tenn and Jacksonville. The Colts faced the toughest lineup they could. No one really gave them a shot with that run defense - facing LJ, Lewis and the Ravens D, and then Brady and BB.

You say that had a few plays went our way then we get another SB, but had a few plays went SD's way then we don't even make the title game. Or, had a few plays gone the Colts' way and they win by 35.....

I stand corrected.

Please return to your Colts fansite, not Chargers fansite.

Come out, tell us right now your TRUE associations. Your trolling will cease and I might just consider debating with you, no matter the stupidity of your opinion.

 

[Kdo5]

Thank you, thank you for understanding where I'm coming from.

What the bandwagon Pats fans don't realize is that this team was very lucky to get to the AFCCG.

SD had us beat. Easily beat, and they let us hang around, and SD lost the game with bad coaching and bad decisions. We were gifted 2 TD's, and spotted a 21-3 lead!
The Colts had to overcome the LARGEST deficit in AFC title game history. And not only did they beat us up and down the field in the 2nd half, they did this while allowing the Pats to start close to midfield every possession! How many on here would believe that the Pats were beating the Colts 21-6 at half, let Brady and BB start every drive around midfield (one 80 yard return, I think Hobbs had like 250 return yards!), allow 1 Manning TD, and still lose the game?

What I'm saying is that we got our asses handed to us, but the final score wasn't indicative of that. And we're going to be farther away next year to these teams (Ravens, Chargers, Colts, Jets, Broncos, etc) unless we shake up this team!

OK, are you talking about the 21-3 lead against the Colts? Because that looked like you said we had a 21-3 lead over the Chargers. Are you an idiot?

You said we were the 6th best team in the AFC. LOL. What are you saying the Jets are better than us, maybe the Bengals are better than us? The Chiefs? The Ravens? NO. We crushed the Bengals, we crushed the Jets in the playoffs, the Chiefs suck and they have a sucky coach. The Ravens are totally overrated and we beat the Chargers in their house, without Rodney. WE made the plays when necesary. Colvin INT? Gaffney TD? Troy Brown forced fumble? Caldwell TD & 2 Point conversion? 49 yard pass to Caldwell? Oh wait that cant be, you said that all that was a fluke, the Chargers handed those plays to us.

STFU Troll. We made it to the AFC Title Game. Have 27 million dollars of cap space, young talented players and some great veterans, and a brilliant coach.

go suck a big hairy **** you scum bag Dolts fan.

enjoy your superbowl, its gonna be a looong 2007 season for you guys.

 

[Kdo5]

I wish you would just stay out of it, honestly. You have nothing constructive to offer. You are probably like most Pat's fans, and jumped on the bandwagon. You probably liked the Jets or Giants before the Pats run.

LMAO. Bandwagon? These are the same people who have been supporters of the Patriots for a life time. Do you not understand the term 'bandwagon fan'?

 

[Kdo5]

lol

You just made all my points for me!


Are you still in highschool?

Yes I am, and I am glad I'm not some 40 year old low life like you wasting my life trolling forums.

 

[Kdo5]

Well, I'm sorry you do sound like you're nine, so I guess I can't exactly call you "bandwagon".

Well that definitley didnt make any sense. I should be smarter and....

:trolls:

 

[pats1]

I wish you would just stay out of it, honestly. You have nothing constructive to offer. You are probably like most Pat's fans, and jumped on the bandwagon. You probably liked the Jets or Giants before the Pats run.

What the hell did I say?

I'll talk constructively with you when you stop trolling.

 

[Fixit]

^---wishes he could euthanize this stupid thread.

 

[PatrioticDynasty]

I wish you would just stay out of it, honestly. You have nothing constructive to offer. You are probably like most Pat's fans, and jumped on the bandwagon. You probably liked the Jets or Giants before the Pats run.

Ok this HAS to be definative proof of YOU NOT BEING a PATS FAN...Everyone knows that anyone from the NewEngland area, born there transplanted, whatever, in the last 35 odd years knows that unlike most cities ie: INDY, SD. We stick buy OUR TEAM Threw thick and thin, I have put up with soooooooo much crap over my lifetime being born in Boston, growing up in Plymouth and moving all over the east coast (renting out our house in Mass)and then constantly moving back because of My Fathers job as Nuclear engineer. I know what it's like to see people jump on a bandwagon, but I stayed loyal to my hometown team, and when they finally did it, It made me feel EXTRA PROUD to be a fan BECAUSE I lived threw the hard times of Patriots football dissapointments and Rip-offs ('76) That for you to even mention that statement on this board makes me go Nuts, For all the other posters, I am sorry to rant ( Hell even no Paragrahs...) But I just Can't let that statement sit without comment....YOU HAVE TO BE A TROLL.

If you want a visual, think "invasion of the body snatchers" when they pointed and screemed at the humans...

PD.

 

[pats1]

^---wishes he could euthanize this stupid thread.

If a moderator could compare the IP to this troll to the NJSportsFan troll, that would certainly be a great way to "Fixit."

 

[Fixit]

If a moderator could compare the IP to this troll to the NJSportsFan troll, that would certainly be a great way to "Fixit."

 

[DaBruinz]

that sounds kinda like the bengals pitt game from the playoffs of the 05 season, the pitt dlineman gets basically thrown towards carson palmer's knee and rolls into it and a new rule is born because of just some freak accidental play.

You obviously did NOT watch the game. Kimo von Oelhoffen DOVE at Palmer's knees and hit him late. He wasn't thrown. I watched the game.

 

[DaBruinz]

He wasn't "fine". He was inconsistent before his injury as I posted in another thread. These things happen to all RBs, that's just one of the reasons I don't believe in drafting them in the 1st round.



Gostowski was a gamble. All rookie kickers are. It paid off. Moreover, I applauded the team for not caving into AV and Meion's demands. However, the 2006 draft will be judged on the success of Laurence and Chad. If these guys fail, this draft will go down as a disaster.

I do like Thomas. I will discuss him later in this post.



As I posted, OC dropped because of his injury history. I agree that if healthy, OC will be a steal.



Andrews is a good gunner, but it's hardly something to hang your hat on.



I liked the 2005 draft under the circumstances: poor talent pool and picking last in every round. However, the Pats wound up with only a Guard in the 1st round. Mankins is a work in progress, but you can always get Guards. That's been an axiom since the Pats let Woody and Andruzzi walk.

The jury is still out on Kaczur, who was terrible in the SD game and the Pats were unable to run to his side.



Actually, the 2006 draft is still subject to review you really can't say it turned out good. IMO, this draft is starting out on the wrong foot. If the '06 draft doesn't pan out (i.e. Maroney and Jackson are busts), that will make 2 poor drafts in the past 3 years - not a good track record.



I'm going to be blunt and say Watson sucks. He's an awful blocker, drops way too many passes, doesn't usually get open, and developed a case a fumble-itus. In the second half of the season, I cringed every time a pass was thrown his way. His per game numbers were dropping when Brady developed chemistry with the WRs.

Now for David Thomas. Getting him the 3rd round was a steal. He's a bit undersized and needs work on his blocking, but he improved in this area as the season progressed. In the Rose Bowl a year ago, I was impressed with both his ability to hold onto the ball after getting hit (something Watson doesn't do well), and his penchant for getting open. The Jags game showed that he can be a great check off receiver over the middle. Why the team never went to him after that game is beyond me. I will dare say that Thomas is a better player than Watson right now.



Again I will be blunt. Gusssss sucksssss. Every time he played with the regular defense, he'd limp off the field after making a tackle. Moreover, in the regular defense, Gussss showed that he couldn't cover and had zero ball skills. Against SD in the 41-17 loss, Gussss allowed a TD where he stood starting at ball w/o so much as lifting up his arm. The fact that he couldn't play in the NFL is echoed by his failure to stick with the Texans and Jets. To think we passed up on players like Gibril Wilson and Shaun Phillips to take this guy.



Reid was another guy who can't play safety in the NFL. He almost cost us SB 39 when he allowed a 30-yard TD to Greg Lewis to make it a 24-21 game. He had a chance to redeem himself in TC the following summer, but the Pats knew he couldn't play and let him go. As for his contributions with Indy, there's no way he'll crack the lineup with Sanders, Jackson, and Bethea on the depth chart. He's been nothing but a gunner on STs. We know how good his unit fared in SB 41.

PK Sam is another player that can't stick on a roster. He's now with the Dolphins where he'll probably fail another "numbers crunch".



I thought Hill was a great pick at the time, but I accuse the Pats of substituting diligent scouting with their connections to coaches. This mistake might be repeated with Chad Jackson, IMO. The Pats have taken some hits in their scouting department since 2003 and I wonder if it's affecting them.



If Laurence/Chad are busts, it will be 2 bad drafts in 3 years. Not good.

You are so far off on most of your post it wasn't worth trying to break it down point by point.

 

[ATippett56]

I wish you would just stay out of it, honestly. You have nothing constructive to offer. You are probably like most Pat's fans, and jumped on the bandwagon. You probably liked the Jets or Giants before the Pats run.

Nothing constructive to offer ..... says the black pot to the kettle.

 

[DaBruinz]

Unlike PatsFanForever, I have been a Pats fan since they were conceived

in 1959. I was 27 at the time so this makes me the old fart on the forum.

I guess that I am am ignorant, stupid, and a troll because I agree with

PatsFanForever more than I do with you gentlemen. I suggest that you

all buy a new set of glasses from LensCrafters. Then compare the Pats

rosters from 2005 and 2006 against the 2003 and 2004 rosters. Ten

good players are missing from the 2004 roster. I'm fearful that two more

will be added to the list this spring.

Bill Belichick is the best coach and the brightest mind in the NFL,

but even he can't turn Poop into Shinola forever. It behooves us

to get cracking in free agency and "show them the money".

JIMKE-
You are usually pretty insightful, but I have laugh when you claim that 10 good players are gone from the 2004 roster to this year, yet you don't mention who has replaced them. You act as if the Pats have replaced the guys with schlubs who can't get out of their own way.

1) Andruzzi - Replaced by Mankins. Mankins is near ALL-PRO quality.
2) Patten - He was BENCHED going into the play-offs and had I think 4 catches across 3 games.
3) Ty Poole - Was injured most of 2003 and 2004. Was replaced by Gay and then Hobbs.
4) Ty Law - Injured in 2004. Made the choice to leave. Replaced by Samuel.
5) Adam Vinatieri - Had been steadily sliding since 2002 in terms of his kick-offs. Missed several key kicks in 2004 and 2005. Replaced by Gostkowski who made a pressure kick in San Diego.
6) Branch - Not sure he's been replaced yet. The Pats did draft Chad Jackson, but the jury is still out.
7) David Givens - Replaced by Reche Caldwell. Caldwell did very well considering there wasn't a threat opposite him most of the year. It will be very interesting to see how he does with Gaffney or Chad Jackson across from him most of the year.
8) Willie McGinest - Hasn't been replaced yet. However, Willie made the choice to leave and, well, he wasn't playing great in 2005, though he was still better than TBC.
9) Ted Johnson - Retired. Was replaced by Seau this year and the defense played extremely well until he broke his arm. Seau may or may not be back.
10) Roman Phifer - Who would you have replaced him with over the past 2 years? Eric Alexander was used in this role and, honestly, was ABUSED by a damn good TE in Dallas Clark.


Now, something you seem to not understand is that we aren't the only team that has lost good players. So why lament about it? You act as if the Pats have NOTHING going into next season. They just barely missed going to their 4th SB in 6 years. A miss that shouldn't have happened if the refs had called the game properly or the Pats had actually executed in the last 3 minutes of the game and if the Pats hadn't had injuries to Kevin Faulk and Corey Dillon.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

You obviously did NOT watch the game. Kimo von Oelhoffen DOVE at Palmer's knees and hit him late. He wasn't thrown. I watched the game.

Kimo-therapy.

 

[pats1]

LMAO

Could you run down some more excuses?????

Holy cow, what a baby. You would think that after all the gifts and breaks we've received over our runs that we could stop with the excuses and whining. Really, it just makes you look like a dope.

:yawn:

Is your charade over yet?

 

[SeanBruschi54]

LMAO

Could you run down some more excuses?????

Holy cow, what a baby. You would think that after all the gifts and breaks we've received over our runs that we could stop with the excuses and whining. Really, it just makes you look like a dope.

Adios amigo you'll be banned soon.

 

[pats1]

Am I wrong?

Seriously?

If you continue to troll, yes.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

Am I wrong?

Seriously?

Read Pats1 reply.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Why is anyone wasting anymore keystrokes on this guy?

He's completely embarrassed himself and whatever team he actually roots for, even though he's too much of a coward to actually stand up for his team - there's really nothing more to say.