The Official Vrabel vs Ben Johnson Discussion Thread

[vicspats]

Robert knew about the meeting between Jonathan and Vrabel.

Bet Mayo did as well …

 

[Love The Drake]

Without him this would be a difficult job to sell to a top candidate m.

 

[Zuma]

3 times with each team apparently.

 

[vicspats]

I agree on McDaniels' style offense (I assume what you meant) becoming antiquated. That offense worked when you have a quarterback who is a very traditional drop back passer who relies on precision and timing. Brady, and to a much lesser extent Mac Jones, were guys who liked to sit in the pocket go through progressions and hit the open guy. While I think Maye will be able to do that (and to some extent already can) I think limiting him to that takes away so much of what Maye is capable of. Maye is an athlete and needs a guy like Johnson who can utilize his mobility and use the threat of Maye's mobility to keep a defense honest and open up some big plays. McDaniels' offense is like a Honda Accord. It gets the job done year in and year out but won't be able to keep up if you get into a race whereas Johnson's offense is a Ferrari. Flashy, fast, and exotic but costs a lot more to maintain.

This goes back to my whole ceiling comment. Sure the Ferrari could get wrecked and you're back to a Honda but I would love to see what the Ferrari can do with a capable driver.

I’m guessing the Krafts want to win with the Honda price tag vs losing with the Ferrari price tag. Call it a hunch

 

[vicspats]

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Only way Saleh comes here is Kraft breaks the bank and he wands to stick it the Jets.
We have a better chance at Patricia or Mangini coaching the D.

Ian … need a throw up emoji

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

 

[Toofy]

Vrabel wants the pats job .. what a way to manipulate... Krafts do your research before you decide. Listen to what Ben has to say and make a decision on Monday.

 

[Love The Drake]

I saw that coming.

Ben Johnson here we come.
If Kraft wands Vrabel he can’t let him leave without a deal.
Otherwise we trot out Flores or Glenn or interview more candidates.
No love for Kellen Moore or Joe Brady?
Kliff Kingsbury.

 

[Grogan1980]

Nah, Vrabel comes to New England as HC, Brady sells his part ownership of Raiders, gives up broadcast gig, and signs mega deal as OC of Patriots

 

[Grogan14]

If Pats can not close the deal on either Vrabel or Johnson this process will have been an epic fail
If Vrabel wants his own gm, give it to him

 

[Love The Drake]

If Pats can not close the deal on either Vrabel or Johnson this process will have been an epic fail

Don’t forget ABM
Anyone but Mayo

 

[Ross12]

That's kind of a weird wrinkle, that the GM opening in LV opened up WHILE Vrabel is interviewing with the Pats. Feels like a leverage move happening live.

 

[203Pat]

3 times with each team apparently.

I would like to know more about that 30% I can save by filing with Block Advisors instead of a typical accountant or CPA.

 

[203Pat]

Between this and the "Ben Johnson might go back to Detroit" rumblings I think we really may be the frontrunner in both Vrabel and Johnson's eyes.

 

[Love The Drake]

I would like to know more about that 30% I can save by filing with Block Advisors instead of a typical accountant or CPA.

Well I don’t work at H and R block but I did stay at a holiday inn las
No no I didnt I guess you’d have to call them directly.

 

[Love The Drake]

Between this and the "Ben Johnson might go back to Detroit" rumblings I think we really may be the frontrunner in both Vrabel and Johnson's eyes.

Kraft won’t give Vrabel the power the Raiders will and Tommy knows it.
It’s Ben Johnson or bust.

 

[Steve102]

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

Kraft: "Happy ending is on me Mike then we'll go back and sign the contract."

 

[NashuaPats]

So, he is taking the job as Vrabel’s OC with the Pats. Nice

 

[KDPPatsfan85]