***THE OFFICIAL 2014 New England Patriots training camp thread***

[Kontradiction]

Based on the reports, it looks like the interior OL is picking up right where it left off.

 

[Danger Zone]

Vereen caught every ball!?!?

The rain must help his catching ablity!

.. to be Blount about it.. maybe?

 

[Mack Herron]

That was all very disjointed...what exactly are you saying?

For years the consistent cry has been "who will rush the passer?" Last game we could not get close to our arch nemesis. Now after a few pre-season practices we are saying the OL is the biggest concern. I am trying to understand how to prioritize worries here. Blocking? Pass-rush? TE2? SS? Power RB? So many concerns, so little Paxil.

 

[Deus Irae]

Duron Harmon – The second-year safety was the presumed starter next to
Devin McCourty heading into camp after a strong spring. But he’s been just one of a litany of bodies taking reps at that spot this summer and has done nothing to stand out.

This has been the defensive concern this offseason: S2. It's the weakest position on the defense, and BB passed on a lot of opportunities to strengthen it.

 

[Danger Zone]

Keep trolling, but troll someone else... blah blah blah

That's a huge difference, but one you're ignoring because you're trolling. You and I, though. We're done here.

You also call me a troll every time I Dislike a post of yours (something I've done exactly twice).

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

People really worried about Revis? Really?

If you are going to worry about something..worry about Ebola. Revis will be just fine.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Linebacker Jamie Collins proved he can hang in coverage with Eagles speedy running back Darren Sproles as he had a nice pass breakup in a drill.

Per Reiss....more good news

 

[Kontradiction]

This has been the defensive concern this offseason: S2. It's the weakest position on the defense, and BB passed on a lot of opportunities to strengthen it.

I've been pounding the table for an improvement at the position since 2011. At this point, I'm hoping Ryan can stick there full time because I have very little confidence in the rest of the bunch.

 

[supafly]

I've been pounding the table for an improvement at the position since 2011. At this point, I'm hoping Ryan can stick there full time because I have very little confidence in the rest of the bunch.

I have been a huge advocate of him staying at CB (although moving around like he did last season), but I'm wondering if the development of Butler may allow us to play Ryan more at safety than I anticipated? I did not assume that we'd have a no-name coming on from nowhere at the position.

I still think that we'd have more signs of Ryan playing the position from much earlier in OTAs/minis, had it been something that was going to be a permanent move, but I'll admit that I don't feel quite as confident as I did last week about him definitely staying at CB for the high bulk of his reps.

I'm wondering if the Butler situation may give us the opportunity to have more options now, assuming that he sticks of course, which is a major assumption in and of itself?

 

[woolster22]

I've been pounding the table for an improvement at the position since 2011. At this point, I'm hoping Ryan can stick there full time because I have very little confidence in the rest of the bunch.

I think that is a bit premature. Harmon looked half decent last year.

 

[Kontradiction]

I think that is a bit premature. Harmon looked half decent last year.

This myth has been debunked multiple times now. Further, he's not doing anything of note in TC either. If he was, he would be clearly winning the starting job already and the coaching staff wouldn't be throwing everything at the wall still to see what sticks. Like supafly, I've been a huge advocate of leaving Ryan at CB too but, given that Harmon can't even beat out the likes of Chung or Wilson yet and given the fact that we have an embarrassment of riches at CB, I wouldn't mind seeing Ryan put back there. He has a nose for the ball and if his head is consistently turned toward it, the defense could really stand to benefit.

 

[Marqui]

I'm wondering if the Butler situation may give us the opportunity to have more options now, assuming that he sticks of course, which is a major assumption in and of itself?

No, Butler is a lock at this point.

 

[Sciz]

This myth has been debunked multiple times now. Further, he's not doing anything of note in TC either.

How does one debunk somebody's opinion that a player looked half decent?

 

[Mack Herron]

This myth has been debunked multiple times now. Further, he's not doing anything of note in TC either. If he was, he would be clearly winning the starting job already and the coaching staff wouldn't be throwing everything at the wall still to see what sticks. Like supafly, I've been a huge advocate of leaving Ryan at CB too but, given that Harmon can't even beat out the likes of Chung or Wilson yet and given the fact that we have an embarrassment of riches at CB, I wouldn't mind seeing Ryan put back there. He has a nose for the ball and if his head is consistently turned toward it, the defense could really stand to benefit.

If the starter, Chung for instance, can't get it done, it won't take them long to cycle through Harmon, Ryan, and (my binkie) Thomas (not necessarily in that order), until they find someone who can. Lots of able bodies here compared to, say, TE2.

 

[Ring 6]

Worried about revis getting toasted by maclin this week.

Jeremy Maclin toasts Revis in Eagles-Pats practice - NFL.com

Old news and it has already been reported the play took forever and Revis appeared to have given up on it

 

[Ring 6]

No, Butler is a lock at this point.

Come on. He is far from a lock.

 

[patsinthesnow]

It's early, but if the coaching staff feels Ryan won't develop into a solid man CB, I agree that sending him off to safety school wouldn't be a bad idea.

Revis
Browner
Dennard
Butler

We look to be 4 deep at outside CB and Arrington is the slot guy.

 

[Marqui]

Come on. He is far from a lock.

He's been one of their top 3 corners in camp this year. They're not going to cut him, sorry.

 

[FlyboyPatsFan]

Please go Monday if you can! I adore your practice videos!

I hope I can. I actually took two days vacation so I could go the both Eagles sessions. Too bad the second was closed to the public. Maybe Monday, if the stars align.

-bv

 

[Deus Irae]

If the starter, Chung for instance, can't get it done, it won't take them long to cycle through Harmon, Ryan, and (my binkie) Thomas (not necessarily in that order), until they find someone who can. Lots of able bodies here compared to, say, TE2.

The problem is that, if Chung is the best you've got, you don't have much at all. Numbers are irrelevant at that point.