The JoeSixPat Review of the Kicking competition

[JoeSixPat]

Seems that thus far the kicking competition is pretty close between Gostkowski and Gramatica

It may be that Gramatica has fewer pre-season misses and certainly has the experience edge... but Gostowski seems to have better range

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

All things being equal, do you keep Gostowski or Gramatica?

I'd lean towards Gostowski, given his range and strength - I try not to let the fact that we used a 4th round pick on him factor into my decision.

I'd lean towards cutting Gramatica at the end of camp, hoping he's available if we need him later in the season. I don't suppose they could do the unthinkable and keep them both on the roster, could they?

 

[PATRIOTS-80]

Re: Opinions on the Kicking competition

Seems that thus far the kicking competition is pretty close between Gostkowski and Gramatica

It may be that Gramatica has fewer pre-season misses and certainly has the experience edge... but Gostowski seems to have better range

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

All things being equal, do you keep Gostowski or Gramatica?

I'd lean towards Gostowski, given his range and strength - I try not to let the fact that we used a 4th round pick on him factor into my decision.

I'd lean towards cutting Gramatica at the end of camp, hoping he's available if we need him later in the season. I don't suppose they could do the unthinkable and keep them both on the roster, could they?

Well, Cassell played the whole game. The other 2 QB didn't even get a snap in a freakin' preseason game. If we substitute the 3rd QB on the roster for a Gostowski as KO specialist ... why not. Gives BB flexibility in case deep in the season one of them goes off the deep end.

 

[stcjones]

Re: Opinions on the Kicking competition

Seems that thus far the kicking competition is pretty close between Gostkowski and Gramatica

It may be that Gramatica has fewer pre-season misses and certainly has the experience edge... but Gostowski seems to have better range

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

All things being equal, do you keep Gostowski or Gramatica?

I'd lean towards Gostowski, given his range and strength - I try not to let the fact that we used a 4th round pick on him factor into my decision.

I'd lean towards cutting Gramatica at the end of camp, hoping he's available if we need him later in the season. I don't suppose they could do the unthinkable and keep them both on the roster, could they?

*Sigh* If every one else has an opinion...I suppose you deserve one too...,

It seemed to me actually that Grammatica was kicking deeper on the kickoffs than Gostkowski...and kicked his 2 fg's right down the middle, while Gostkowski barely clipped his in there (plenty of distance just tight) Anyways,..I think it is WAY too early to tell who we keep.....let them work through the rest of the preseason....and you will have your answer.....one man's opinion.....

 

[TruthSeeker]

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I'd be all for keeping Gostkoski as the kickoff specialist, he seemed to reach the end zone on almost every kickoff. Showed a very strong leg. Gramattica kicked very well, did a good job on both field goals. Keep both guys, and if Gramattica falters, the kid gets the job.

 

[Alk]

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If I had to choose just one kicker based on last night it would be Gramatica no question. I don't care of Gostowski's kickoffs went into the endzone. His one FG attempt looked downright horrible. On top of that, Gramatica kind of reminded me of Vinatieri out there. After every kick he was hugging just about any player he could find. No crazy celebrations or anything like that, just telling the rest of his teammates thanks. I liked that.

 

[rabthepat]

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If we can't keep both then I say Gramatica because of his experience. Did it seem as though Gramatica got a little over excited after making that first FG?

 

[Murphys95]

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If there were 3 players that received an extended evaluation last night, I'd say they were Cassell, Gramatica, and Gostkowski. I cannot help but think they are all tied in together based on roster spots. At this point BB may realize that signing a veteran QB won't do any more good now than it would later in the season (see: learning curve). Bramlet and/or Mortensen can land on the practice squad providing the same insurance in case of emergency. This leaves open the possibility of the BB retaining two kickers and two quarterbacks.

Coach has 'til September 2nd to play all of this out; I wouldn't put it past him to cut either kicker; and I wouldn't be surprised to see him keep them both.

 

[mgteich]

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what he said!

If I had to choose just one kicker based on last night it would be Gramatica no question. I don't care of Gostowski's kickoffs went into the endzone. His one FG attempt looked downright horrible. On top of that, Gramatica kind of reminded me of Vinatieri out there. After every kick he was hugging just about any player he could find. No crazy celebrations or anything like that, just telling the rest of his teammates thanks. I liked that.

 

[PatsDeb]

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If we can't keep both then I say Gramatica because of his experience. Did it seem as though Gramatica got a little over excited after making that first FG?

If you are going to keep Gramatica over Gostkowski, what about stowing Gostkowski on the practice squad? Can't be worse than cutting him outright. I still think keeping the youngster is the way to go.

 

[PATSNUTme]

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If you are going to keep Gramatica over Gostkowski, what about stowing Gostkowski on the practice squad? Can't be worse than cutting him outright. I still think keeping the youngster is the way to go.

Berfore we can put him on the PS, we have to cut him and every other team gets a shot to sign him to their 53 man roster.

Just the way it works.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

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Unfortunately last night didn't provide a whole lot of insight on our competition, just Atlanta's...

FG's of 34, 30 and 23 in a dome aren't much of a test. Neither are KO's into the endzone in a dome. Not for AFCE kickers. I really don't think we'll know enough about either of these two to make a rational decision before December. So unless one of them really distances himself from the other or one seriously spits the bit, I think we carry both. If Dramatica looked like a push and we cut him, he'd be grabbed up in an hour. Ditto Gostkowski if we tried to stash him on the PS.

 

[p8ryts]

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Go with the experienced guy, he could be good for 4 or 5 years.

Grammatica looks good.

Don't keep Gostkowski on PS.

 

[Alk]

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If you are going to keep Gramatica over Gostkowski, what about stowing Gostkowski on the practice squad? Can't be worse than cutting him outright. I still think keeping the youngster is the way to go.

I agree about putting him on the practice squad but that leaves him wide open for another team to sign. I still think that's the way to go because right now I think Gramatica is the answer.

 

[PATRIOTS-80]

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If you put Gostowski on the PS, the problem with that is it doesn't do any real good. The reason being is that ANYONE can sign a player off your PS if they put the player on their 53. So if a team gets a hurt/ineffective K, they can sign Gostowski right off our PS.

 

[mgteich]

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We have to decide whether a spare kicker (always inactive) is the best use of a roster spot. I wouldn't think so.

 

[italian pat patriot]

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i start to think both could make the team

Gostkowksi for kick-offs + long fg (approx 45-50 yards) and Gramatica for the fg till middle distance (till 45)

let's see...

 

[SoonerPatriot]

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It's MY OPINION, that Gramatica will stay. for the most part, BB likes experience.

And, if Gramatica is fully healed, he has a proven track record of being a quality kicker,both on FG's and on kickoffs.

God help us.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Gramatica has a brother who played for the Cardinals, who did the famous dancing.

Our Gramatica was a pro-bowl kicker with a strong leg. Yes, he got injuried a couple years ago. Hopefully, he is back.

I've not had a moment's worry about the kicker position since they signed Gramatica.

Some people are determined not to like this guy or show him any respect, and that is unfortunate.

Great thread, Joe6pack, maybe you could start a thread on Deion Branch's current status, or whether Pass will make the team now that we have Cobbs!

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

I know I'm a hell of a lot more confident in Gramatica right now. I think I would keep them both for a while and see how things go, I would feel a little uncomfortable comitting to either one. I realize we'd have to cut someone with some upside to do this.

Make me pick one right now . . . I reluctantly take Gramatica.

 

[SVN]

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I agree about putting him on the practice squad but that leaves him wide open for another team to sign. I still think that's the way to go because right now I think Gramatica is the answer.

teams including the pats have been known to "stash" players. if they want to keep him, they will invent and injury and put him on IR