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I have a better idea, how about you suck your mom's ****?

No wonder you're a dumbass, you're no older than 15.

Could Jets fans be anymore desperate?

Desperate for what? Desperate to correct an incorrect blowhard toughguy on the internet when he spouts off ignorantly?

Yes they did. Even if you're in denial about what effect it will have on the passing game (liability or not, he'd still be an improvement over Ducasse at this point as Ducasse is a rookie), his presence will almost certainly be missed in the running game. He also make Ferguson a much better looking LT when he began lining up next to him.

I'm not in denial about anything. You're just wrong, again. Faneca was let go because he was a liability. If you really want stats, go look up the running plays the Jets ran last year, and get back to me which side of the line they ran behind most of the time. He was a leader, but his performance wasn't worth it, and the Jets have leadership on the OL in an emerging Mangold, Ferguson, and Woody. Add a solid RG in Moore, the Jets have plenty of leadership and a veteran presence to take on a rookie transition.

Yeah, we have a guy named Bussey that no Jets fan would know either. Like Slauson, nobody knows exactly what Bussey is capable of. Are you really counting on him or Ducasse to come in and immediately produce at a Pro Bowl level?

Good, because it looks like you'll need him to replace the Patriot's best OL'n in Mankins.

And look what happened in the AFC Championship when Shonn Greene went down and there wasn't anybody behind him that could be a viable threat in the backfield. And really, you shouldn't use the AFC Championship to make a point. The Jets should have been 7-9 last year but got the luck of the draw for the last few weeks of the season.

Exactly, the fact that Jones played so poorly in the playoffs last year is why he is now in Kansas City and why LT is on the team. Why shouldn't I use AFC Championship to make a point, because the Jets went to the game, the Pats didn't, and it kills you!!!!

It's pretty much fact that a compound fracture is easier for an athlete to get over than a torn ligament in, say, the knee.

So now you're a doctor? Can he come back? Sure... But the FACT is, nobody knows, and nobody knows if he will ever be the same. He also may start the season on the PUP, and would have been due a big contract next year, nobody knows what Leon will be, so the Jets were proactive in replacing him, and thinking of the future with the other roster decisions they have the next couple of years.

McKnight lasted until the later rounds in a draft that was absolutely piss-poor for running backs. Nobody wanted him up until the point that the Jets took him. On top of that, if you're going to try to throw out the point about Leon Washington because of his injury, you definitely shouldn't make the logical error of counting in a rookie who was taken in the later rounds who hasn't even touched a handoff in a professional game. That's just horrible logic, not that I'm suprised being that it's coming from a Jets homer.

Uh huh, just like Leon Washington did when the Jets drafted him. McKnight was also one of the more heralded high school players in recent history, the talent and potential is there, and he will be our #3 RB, a great pick to replace Washington, who we DON'T know if he will ever be the same. All of this STILL doesn't change the fact Washington was lost last year in week 5 and was a non-factor in the year the Jets had last year, and here you are spinning his loss heading into this year. You aren't very bright.

First of all, Schottenheimer was a quarterbacks coach with San Diego. He didn't work directly with Tomlinson. Second of all, you didn't replace Thomas Jones with L.T. You replaced Jones with Shonn Greene. You replaced Greene with L.T. Third of all, anybody with two eyes (this includes Charger fans prior to L.T. getting traded. And if you don't believe me, just skim their threads from a few months back) can tell you that L.T. is absolutely, positively, on his last legs. He is just about done. He looks like Larry Johnson after the tires began to fall off and Priest Holmes before him.

I'm quite aware of what Schottenheimer was in SD, he's also a highly regarded offensive coach now who will probably be a head coach in this league in the next 5 years. He runs a system much like Cam Cameron did, and he was a coach under his own father, who LT LOVED to play for. We replaced Jones with LT, a younger player with much more ability and add his ability as a receiver, much more dynamic. This cannot be disputed. LT to Larry Johnson is a horrible comparison, they are both very different backs. You clowns want to point out his ypc last year, but he was hurt the last two years, and the Charger OL is awful, especially in rushing offense. Sproles ypc last year was only 3.6, I guess he's getting old and lost a step too!!!

Holmes was a Super Bowl MVP with a guy who would have been a HOFer had he been able to resist the rape throwing to him. Sanchez is another story. He was, by far, the worst QB in the league last year who didn't weigh 300 pounds and play for the Raiders.

Could he improve? Maybe. But chances are it won't be sizeable. Even then, there are far more QB's with rookie years like Sanchez's who washed out of the league afterward than there are QB's with similar rookie years who went on to become franchise quarterbacks. If he has another year like he did in 2009, you idiots will turn on him like sharks that smell blood in the water.

Holmes was a STEAL of a pickup, and any spin you offer to dispute is just sour grapes. You cannot question the ability he has and the dynamic he will add to this Jets team.

Spare me on your Sanchez rhetoric, it reeks of penis envy. The kid has the goods, he struggled and was inconsistent just like all the great QB's did in their first season. When the lights came on for real in the post season, he emerged as a franchise QB, and this kills you!!!!!!!!!! :singing:

Jenkins is 30 years old with bad knees and a lengthy injury history. Not really a good thing.

Jenkins isn't a RB or a WR, he got hurt early in the year last year and is fully healthy, unlike Welker, who is a WR and needs his legs. Jenkins is a top 3 NT in this league, spin it all you want, his return is like adding another player this year since he missed most of the season last year, considering the Jets were the #1 defense last year, that's a scary thought, isn't it???

L.T. is just about done, Holmes is suspended for the first quarter of the season when the Jets face the first part of their division schedule, Jason Taylor has always been a liability against the run and was suddenly a liability in the pass rush last season (on top of being as old as dirt), Cromartie is incredibly overrated and hasn't had a good season since 2007 (on top of the fact that he doesn't like to tackle), and you guys are very much overrating Brodney Pool. This is on top of the fact that you'll be starting someone who is highly inexperienced at LG. Really, the only people who consider you guys favorites are the media (New York based, of course), and for that the Jets are awarded a big bullseye on their backs from teams asking themselves, "who the hell is this sh!t team that hasn't won anything since the first lunar landing and why are they talking?".

You have NO clue what shape LT is in. Holmes was a steal PERIOD. Think of it this way, when Holmes comes back, he'll step right in and be a major cog to an already very talented offense, while Welker may not be back until week 7.

Cromartie is a CB that needs to play in a pressure schemed defensive system, he's not a zone player, the Chargers moved away from the aggressive scheme they played in his first two years when he was a pro bowl player. Rex said Cromartie was the most impressive workout he's ever seen as a CB, I think Rex knows a thing or two about defense, I'm just a wee bit more inclined to believe Rex instead of a pimple-nosed punk spouting off who doesn't have a clue!!!!
 
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This thread is hilarious though

Love the fear

Pat fan hasn't looked up in a while

Get used to it

We do this every year in the offseason. Even when the Jets are worse than the Bills.
 
You're quoting stats on a rookie QB, sure since it fits your spin

How did Brady do his rookie year?

Manning?

Don't be a clown, Sanchez went through his growing pains and put it all together when it mattered most.

Holmes was victim of Rapistberger's actions, the Roonies don't want the PR, the Jets got him for a 5th which is an absolute STEAL. Spare me the spin on Edwards, he's a great talent when focused, and when he joined the Jets mid-year last year, had instant impact. With an off-season under his belt and added chemistry, he has the potential to be a top 10 WR.

McKnight is a rookie, so are several Patriots that you clowns are pimping on this site. Save it.

I can only assume that you're kidding with this post. I refuse to believe that even a Jets fan would be silly enough to make it seriously.

AGAIN, Holmes was so vital the the Steelers that they were going to cut him over a relatively minor incident. Roethlisberger was being accused of rape, but he's still on the team. One of these things is not like the other.

Edwards has had a hands problem for his entire NFL career.

As you noted, McKnight is a rookie.

Brady won a Super Bowl in his first year as a starter. He did it after taking over a sub .500 team that had been 5-11 the previous season. Sanchez took over a 9-7 team and went............... 9-7, and he reached that loftly plateau only because other teams laid down the final two weeks of the season. As for Sanchez putting it together, you've got to be yanking chains here, given that Chargers game. If the Chargers don't watch their kicker self-immolate, this isn't even a discussion. But you keep pimping the mighty 52% completion rate and 60.1 QB rating as if that's putting it together if you want to.

Oh:
Manning's QB rating as a rookie was 71.2. Sanchez..... 63
Manning's TD/INT rate was 26/28, compared to 12/20 for Sanchez
Manning's TD percentage 4.5 vs. 3.3 for Sanchez
Manning's INT percentage 4.9 vs. 5.5 for Sanchez

Brilliant comparisons to go for.
 
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Desperate for what? Desperate to correct an incorrect blowhard toughguy on the internet when he spouts off ignorantly?

Desperate for people to acknowledge that your team actually exists. Why else would you be on here writing 500+ word responses about your team? The thing Jets fans don't seem to get is that the original purpose of this thread is tongue-in-cheek. Also what Jets fans don't seem to get is that when they come here and write said 500+ word responses, they actually come off as the ones who fear the Patriots. For instance, you won't find me with an account on JetsInsider or GangGreen. Why? Because the Jets don't scare me in the least bit.

I'm not in denial about anything. You're just wrong, again. Faneca was let go because he was a liability. If you really want stats, go look up the running plays the Jets ran last year, and get back to me which side of the line they ran behind most of the time.

Perhaps you could furnish me with these stats.

He was a leader, but his performance wasn't worth it, and the Jets have leadership on the OL in an emerging Mangold, Ferguson, and Woody. Add a solid RG in Moore, the Jets have plenty of leadership and a veteran presence to take on a rookie transition.

It looks like Mangold is about to enter a lengthy contract dispute with the Jets, Woody is a fat, overrated tub of goo, and Ferguson was well on his way to being a bust before Faneca came along.

Good, because it looks like you'll need him to replace the Patriot's best OL'n in Mankins.

Actually, that will be Kaczur.

Exactly, the fact that Jones played so poorly in the playoffs last year is why he is now in Kansas City and why LT is on the team.

Jones' best postseason game: 16 rushes, 42 yards
L.T.'s best postseason game: 12 rushes, 24 yards

What am I missing?

Why shouldn't I use AFC Championship to make a point, because the Jets went to the game, the Pats didn't, and it kills you!!!!

Actually, it kills you more that Patriots fans laugh at the fact that Jets fans brag about an AFCCG appearance like they won the Super Bowl. It's one of the many reasons why you're here, ON A RIVAL TEAM'S MESSAGEBOARD, with a chip on your shoulder.

So now you're a doctor? Can he come back? Sure... But the FACT is, nobody knows, and nobody knows if he will ever be the same. He also may start the season on the PUP, and would have been due a big contract next year, nobody knows what Leon will be, so the Jets were proactive in replacing him, and thinking of the future with the other roster decisions they have the next couple of years.

It's pretty WIDELY agreed that a compound fracture is easier to come back from than a torn ligament.

Uh huh, just like Leon Washington did when the Jets drafted him. McKnight was also one of the more heralded high school players in recent history, the talent and potential is there, and he will be our #3 RB, a great pick to replace Washington, who we DON'T know if he will ever be the same. All of this STILL doesn't change the fact Washington was lost last year in week 5 and was a non-factor in the year the Jets had last year, and here you are spinning his loss heading into this year. You aren't very bright.

It's a loss because you don't know what you're replacing him with. Wow, McKnight was one of the best high school players in the country? WHOA, WATCH OUT! Should I sh!t my pants now or wait until later? Newsflash, genius, most of the guys who see time at the NFL level were one of the top high school players in the state or country at one point or another. That does not mean that Joe McKnight is going to immediately come in and give you what Leon Washington gave you. The fact that you keep arguing over the impact a rookie will make even after I and several others have told you that it's a logical fallacy is as humorous as it gets though. The very irony of you calling me, "not very bright".

I'm quite aware of what Schottenheimer was in SD, he's also a highly regarded offensive coach now who will probably be a head coach in this league in the next 5 years. He runs a system much like Cam Cameron did, and he was a coach under his own father, who LT LOVED to play for. We replaced Jones with LT, a younger player with much more ability and add his ability as a receiver, much more dynamic. This cannot be disputed.

Did you just try to make the argument that L.T. is younger than Jones? I guess you aren't aware that Jones is 31 and L.T. is 30. But yeah, other than that, HUGE difference in age. Tomlinson averaged 3.3 YPC and Jones averaged 4.2. Now please, go ahead and back yourself into the corner of telling me how superior the Jets' offensive line was to San Diego's.

LT to Larry Johnson is a horrible comparison, they are both very different backs. You clowns want to point out his ypc last year, but he was hurt the last two years, and the Charger OL is awful, especially in rushing offense.

It doesn't matter how different two RB's are. When the wheels are falling off, they're falling off no matter if you're a power runner or a more elusive runner. In that light, L.T. to L.J. is a very apt comparison.

Sproles ypc last year was only 3.6, I guess he's getting old and lost a step too!!!

Ah, so now you've proven to be a hypocrite too. After telling me you can't compare a power back to an elusive runner, you go ahead and compare said elusive runner to a third down back whose specialty is catching the ball out of the backfield. You really are making quite an ass out of yourself here.

Holmes was a STEAL of a pickup, and any spin you offer to dispute is just sour grapes. You cannot question the ability he has and the dynamic he will add to this Jets team.

I never said Holmes sucked. However, he's one off the field incident away from a long term suspension. Better hope he behaves himself in New York City...

Spare me on your Sanchez rhetoric, it reeks of penis envy.

And you called me an idiot? Wow. So because I noted that Sanchez sucked last year (are you honestly denying that he did?), it's penis envy now? So you've basically just copped out at this point, huh?

The kid has the goods, he struggled and was inconsistent just like all the great QB's did in their first season.

And on top of that, you're going to compare him to Manning and Brady? LMFAO!!

When the lights came on for real in the post season, he emerged as a franchise QB, and this kills you!!!!!!!!!! :singing:

Uh huh. That's why the Jets coaching staff openly admitted that the gameplan was to lean on the running game and keep the ball out of his hands as much as they could? Maybe in your deluded fantasies Sanchez had a lights out performance in the playoffs. In the real world, here were his numbers...

Wild Card: 12-15, 115 yards, 1 TD
Divisional: 12-23, 100 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Championship: 17-30, 257 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT

One can hardly call that, "the lights coming on for real". Those are EXTREMELY mediocre stats. On top of that, the only reason he did as good as he did in the first half of the Championship were due to big plays which were either trick plays or caught the Colts by suprise. Why don't you tell me what happened once Greene left the game, the Colts went up multiple scores, and the Jets had to lean on Sanchez? He looked like the same Sanchez from the regular season.

Jenkins isn't a RB or a WR, he got hurt early in the year last year and is fully healthy, unlike Welker, who is a WR and needs his legs. Jenkins is a top 3 NT in this league, spin it all you want, his return is like adding another player this year since he missed most of the season last year, considering the Jets were the #1 defense last year, that's a scary thought, isn't it???

You must be joking. Do you really, honestly believe that a NT in a 3-4, who has to engage two men at the point of attack, doesn't need his legs? PLEASE tell me you didn't just say that.

You have NO clue what shape LT is in. Holmes was a steal PERIOD. Think of it this way, when Holmes comes back, he'll step right in and be a major cog to an already very talented offense, while Welker may not be back until week 7.

Sure I do. All anybody would have to do is watch him. The Jets might just be 1-2 in the divison by the time Holmes comes back, so you had better hope he can step right in. And Welker, well perhaps you haven't heard yet: Welker is already participating in OTA's.

Cromartie is a CB that needs to play in a pressure schemed defensive system, he's not a zone player, the Chargers moved away from the aggressive scheme they played in his first two years when he was a pro bowl player.

Oh please. The Chargers moved away from that scheme after 2006 when Phillips left. They played in it in 2007 when he had his one and only good year. In 2008, he broke his hip and hasn't been the same since. On top of that, he's as dumb as a rock and has been since his FSU days. There's a reason why the Chargers were so eager to part ways with him.

Rex said Cromartie was the most impressive workout he's ever seen as a CB, I think Rex knows a thing or two about defense, I'm just a wee bit more inclined to believe Rex instead of a pimple-nosed punk spouting off who doesn't have a clue!!!!

Rex always says that his team is the best at something. What were you expecting him to say? That Cromartie is going to suck?
 
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Desperate for people to acknowledge that your team actually exists. Why else would you be on here writing 500+ word responses about your team? The thing Jets fans don't seem to get is that the original purpose of this thread is tongue-in-cheek. Also what Jets fans don't seem to get is that when they come here and write said 500+ word responses, they actually come off as the ones who fear the Patriots. For instance, you won't find me with an account on JetsInsider or GangGreen. Why? Because the Jets don't scare me in the least bit.



Perhaps you could furnish me with these stats.



It looks like Mangold is about to enter a lengthy contract dispute with the Jets, Woody is a fat, overrated tub of goo, and Ferguson was well on his way to being a bust before Faneca came along.



Actually, that will be Kaczur.



Jones' best postseason game: 16 rushes, 42 yards
L.T.'s best postseason game: 12 rushes, 24 yards

What am I missing?



Actually, it kills you more that Patriots fans laugh at the fact that Jets fans brag about an AFCCG appearance like they won the Super Bowl. It's one of the many reasons why you're here, ON A RIVAL TEAM'S MESSAGEBOARD, with a chip on your shoulder.



It's pretty WIDELY agreed that a compound fracture is easier to come back from than a torn ligament.



It's a loss because you don't know what you're replacing him with. Wow, McKnight was one of the best high school players in the country? WHOA, WATCH OUT! Should I sh!t my pants now or wait until later? Newsflash, genius, most of the guys who see time at the NFL level were one of the top high school players in the state or country at one point or another. That does not mean that Joe McKnight is going to immediately come in and give you what Leon Washington gave you. The fact that you keep arguing over the impact a rookie will make even after I and several others have told you that it's a logical fallacy is as humorous as it gets though. The very irony of you calling me, "not very bright".



Did you just try to make the argument that L.T. is younger than Jones? I guess you aren't aware that Jones is 31 and L.T. is 30. But yeah, other than that, HUGE difference in age. Tomlinson averaged 3.3 YPC and Jones averaged 4.2. Now please, go ahead and back yourself into the corner of telling me how superior the Jets' offensive line was to San Diego's.



It doesn't matter how different two RB's are. When the wheels are falling off, they're falling off no matter if you're a power runner or a more elusive runner. In that light, L.T. to L.J. is a very apt comparison.



Ah, so now you've proven to be a hypocrite too. After telling me you can't compare a power back to an elusive runner, you go ahead and compare said elusive runner to a third down back whose specialty is catching the ball out of the backfield. You really are making quite an ass out of yourself here.



I never said Holmes sucked. However, he's one off the field incident away from a long term suspension. Better hope he behaves himself in New York City...



And you called me an idiot? Wow. So because I noted that Sanchez sucked last year (are you honestly denying that he did?), it's penis envy now? So you've basically just copped out at this point, huh?



And on top of that, you're going to compare him to Manning and Brady? LMFAO!!



Uh huh. That's why the Jets coaching staff openly admitted that the gameplan was to lean on the running game and keep the ball out of his hands as much as they could? Maybe in your deluded fantasies Sanchez had a lights out performance in the playoffs. In the real world, here were his numbers...

Wild Card: 12-15, 115 yards, 1 TD
Divisional: 12-23, 100 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Championship: 17-30, 257 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT

One can hardly call that, "the lights coming on for real". Those are EXTREMELY mediocre stats. On top of that, the only reason he did as good as he did in the first half of the Championship were due to big plays which were either trick plays or caught the Colts by suprise. Why don't you tell me what happened once Greene left the game, the Colts went up multiple scores, and the Jets had to lean on Sanchez? He looked like the same Sanchez from the regular season.



You must be joking. Do you really, honestly believe that a NT in a 3-4, who has to engage two men at the point of attack, doesn't need his legs? PLEASE tell me you didn't just say that.



Sure I do. All anybody would have to do is watch him. The Jets might just be 1-2 in the divison by the time Holmes comes back, so you had better hope he can step right in. And Welker, well perhaps you haven't heard yet: Welker is already participating in OTA's.



Oh please. The Chargers moved away from that scheme after 2006 when Phillips left. They played in it in 2007 when he had his one and only good year. In 2008, he broke his hip and hasn't been the same since. On top of that, he's as dumb as a rock and has been since his FSU days. There's a reason why the Chargers were so eager to part ways with him.



Rex always says that his team is the best at something. What were you expecting him to say? That Cromartie is going to suck?

You're flailing

But when you have nothing left, I guess resorting to making **** up will suffice.

Jets don't play a classic 3-4, more of a hybrid 3-4, and they play a lot of 4-3, Jenkins is a beast in the middle, no matter how hard you spin otherwise.

You're full of spin and innuendo about the Jets, love the assumption about players and contract disputes, as if the Pats don't have any issues.

The FACT and bottomline is, the Jets are a loaded team that got even better this off-season, all the spin in the world you can muster doesn't change that, it only makes you look ******ed for making **** up to make yourself feel better.

Love the LT ypc spin compared to Jones. The Jets have one of the best OL's in football, that isn't changing this year, especially when compared to San Diego. And I told you Sproles also struggled behind that same Charger OL, his ypc wasn't much better than LT. So since you love to drum up stats, try doing it so it makes sense, not spinning it to fig your Jet hating and envy agenda.

And dumbass, I compared Sanchez to Brady and Manning in their ROOKIE years. Sanchez went to the AFC Championship, how did Manning and Brady do?

You stay with that spin about Sanchez, you know damn well the kid looks like he will be a good one, and soon!!!

I'll come back to laugh at you soon enough!
 
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You're flailing

But when you have nothing left, I guess resorting to making **** up will suffice.

Jets don't play a classic 3-4, more of a hybrid 3-4, and they play a lot of 4-3, Jenkins is a beast in the middle, no matter how hard you spin otherwise.

You're full of spin and innuendo about the Jets, love the assumption about players and contract disputes, as if the Pats don't have any issues.

The FACT and bottomline is, the Jets are a loaded team that got even better this off-season, all the spin in the world you can muster doesn't change that, it only makes you look ******ed for making **** up to make yourself feel better.

Love the LT ypc spin compared to Jones. The Jets have one of the best OL's in football, that isn't changing this year, especially when compared to San Diego. And I told you Sproles also struggled behind that same Charger OL, his ypc wasn't much better than LT. So since you love to drum up stats, try doing it so it makes sense, not spinning it to fig your Jet hating and envy agenda.

And dumbass, I compared Sanchez to Brady and Manning in their ROOKIE years. Sanchez went to the AFC Championship, how did Manning and Brady do?

You stay with that spin about Sanchez, you know damn well the kid looks like he will be a good one, and soon!!!

I'll come back to laugh at you soon enough!
Oh FFS.

THE JETS SUCKS!
 
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Faneca was far from the best Jet O lineman last season, he was pretty bad in pass protection.

As far as the Jets not running to the left much is because Dbrick is weak in rush blocking and Faneca is a premere pulling guard.

Jets Vs Chargers, Jets with the lead and the ball, 4th down and less then 2 minutes to play. Rex Ryan says "TJ run our play",,,, Faneca pulls and gets a crucial block TJ gets 2 yards and the 1st down, Jets go on to win..

Faneca will be missed IMHO.
 
You're flailing

Not really. Nice copout though.

But when you have nothing left, I guess resorting to making **** up will suffice.

Really? I'm still waiting for those stats, chief.

Jets don't play a classic 3-4, more of a hybrid 3-4, and they play a lot of 4-3, Jenkins is a beast in the middle, no matter how hard you spin otherwise.

In any type of 3-4, the NT has to go up against two guys. They're the anchor of the D-Line. Thanks for showing us all now much you don't know, though. Get used to seeing the 4-3 too. You guys will probably be seeig a lot of it once Jenkins goes down.

You're full of spin and innuendo about the Jets, love the assumption about players and contract disputes, as if the Pats don't have any issues.

Nick Mangold

Nick Mangold tells the New York Post's Bart Hubbuch that it will be a "serious issue" if he does not have a new contract by training camp.

So basically, you're admitting that I know more about the Jets than you do? New England's contract issues are a red herring and have no place in this thread. If you want to talk about them, there's about 10 other threads on the first page that you can participate in.

The FACT and bottomline is, the Jets are a loaded team that got even better this off-season, all the spin in the world you can muster doesn't change that, it only makes you look ******ed for making **** up to make yourself feel better.

When you can't refute any facts and when a Pats fan knows more about your own team than you, I guess it's about time to move on to the personal attacks, right?

Love the LT ypc spin compared to Jones. The Jets have one of the best OL's in football, that isn't changing this year, especially when compared to San Diego.

That offensive line was anchored by the best run blocker on it, Alan Faneca. He's since been replaced by a rookie who will now line up next to a guy that was widely considered a bust before Faneca came along.

And I told you Sproles also struggled behind that same Charger OL, his ypc wasn't much better than LT. So since you love to drum up stats, try doing it so it makes sense, not spinning it to fig your Jet hating and envy agenda.

Pot meet kettle. You tried to ream me out for comparing L.T to L.J. and then compared a career third down back whose forte' is catching passes out of the backfield to L.T. himself. Don't get angry because I called your out on your hypocracy. But since you keep bringing it up, you can't compare Spoles YPC to Tomlinson's. Sproles is not only one of the smallest backs in the league, he isn't a true between the tackles running back. Like I said, he's primarily in the game as a pass catching back on third downs. That would pretty much explain his low YPC. Tomlinson, however is another story. Anybody, outside of homer Jets fans such as yourself, who has watched him for the past couple of years can see the wheels coming off. The Jets FO must have seen it too, which is why they only gave him a two year deal (which, I'll be willing to bet, will be voided after 2010).

And dumbass, I compared Sanchez to Brady and Manning in their ROOKIE years. Sanchez went to the AFC Championship, how did Manning and Brady do?

Perhaps you can't see it, but comparing Sanchez's and Manning's or Brady's rookie years is comparing Sanchez to Brady or Manning. By the way, in Brady's first year as a starter, he won the Super Bowl.

You stay with that spin about Sanchez, you know damn well the kid looks like he will be a good one, and soon!!!

So it's suddenly spin to say that a guy who looked like absolute sh!t as a rookie sucked? Damn that New York media then for all the spin they spun last year! Damn every fanbase in the NFL! Damn the Jets coaching staff for realizing this and taking the ball out of his hands as much as possible down the stretch!

You really suck at this whole "debating" thing. Wait, no. Not suck. "Pathetic" is more like it.

I'll come back to laugh at you soon enough!

No you won't. You'll be just like every other Jets fan that ever came here since this board has been opened: you'll come around in the offseason to open up your mouth, lose badly in any debate about your team's direction, say you'll be back, then disappear as the season opens and the Jets suddenly don't look like the contenders that you made them out to be in the summer. It happens every year. Based on what I see, there is no reason to believe it won't happen this year... AGAIN.
 
Faneca was far from the best Jet O lineman last season, he was pretty bad in pass protection.

As far as the Jets not running to the left much is because Dbrick is weak in rush blocking and Faneca is a premere pulling guard.

Jets Vs Chargers, Jets with the lead and the ball, 4th down and less then 2 minutes to play. Rex Ryan says "TJ run our play",,,, Faneca pulls and gets a crucial block TJ gets 2 yards and the 1st down, Jets go on to win..

Faneca will be missed IMHO.

I have a serious question for you....

How much of Faneca's perceived decline against the pass do you think was a result of his feeling that he needed to keep an eye on D'Bust, and how much was purely a case of him getting his ass beat?
 
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I have a serious question for you....

How much of Faneca's perceived decline against the pass do you think was a result of his feeling that he needed to keep an eye on D'Bust, and how much was purely a case of him getting his ass beat?

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I think that Dbrick holds his own and is a top 10 LT, I think Dbrick is as much underrated as Faneca is overrated. I don't know why Faneca was having some trouble in pass protection, could only guess.

I like Faneca and think he was great for the Jets, him being cut is a result of the Jets needing to trim some cost/cap in lieu of needing to sign there young core players. IMHO
 
Not really. Nice copout though.



Really? I'm still waiting for those stats, chief.



In any type of 3-4, the NT has to go up against two guys. They're the anchor of the D-Line. Thanks for showing us all now much you don't know, though. Get used to seeing the 4-3 too. You guys will probably be seeig a lot of it once Jenkins goes down.



Nick Mangold

Nick Mangold tells the New York Post's Bart Hubbuch that it will be a "serious issue" if he does not have a new contract by training camp.

So basically, you're admitting that I know more about the Jets than you do? New England's contract issues are a red herring and have no place in this thread. If you want to talk about them, there's about 10 other threads on the first page that you can participate in.



When you can't refute any facts and when a Pats fan knows more about your own team than you, I guess it's about time to move on to the personal attacks, right?



That offensive line was anchored by the best run blocker on it, Alan Faneca. He's since been replaced by a rookie who will now line up next to a guy that was widely considered a bust before Faneca came along.



Pot meet kettle. You tried to ream me out for comparing L.T to L.J. and then compared a career third down back whose forte' is catching passes out of the backfield to L.T. himself. Don't get angry because I called your out on your hypocracy. But since you keep bringing it up, you can't compare Spoles YPC to Tomlinson's. Sproles is not only one of the smallest backs in the league, he isn't a true between the tackles running back. Like I said, he's primarily in the game as a pass catching back on third downs. That would pretty much explain his low YPC. Tomlinson, however is another story. Anybody, outside of homer Jets fans such as yourself, who has watched him for the past couple of years can see the wheels coming off. The Jets FO must have seen it too, which is why they only gave him a two year deal (which, I'll be willing to bet, will be voided after 2010).



Perhaps you can't see it, but comparing Sanchez's and Manning's or Brady's rookie years is comparing Sanchez to Brady or Manning. By the way, in Brady's first year as a starter, he won the Super Bowl.



So it's suddenly spin to say that a guy who looked like absolute sh!t as a rookie sucked? Damn that New York media then for all the spin they spun last year! Damn every fanbase in the NFL! Damn the Jets coaching staff for realizing this and taking the ball out of his hands as much as possible down the stretch!

You really suck at this whole "debating" thing. Wait, no. Not suck. "Pathetic" is more like it.



No you won't. You'll be just like every other Jets fan that ever came here since this board has been opened: you'll come around in the offseason to open up your mouth, lose badly in any debate about your team's direction, say you'll be back, then disappear as the season opens and the Jets suddenly don't look like the contenders that you made them out to be in the summer. It happens every year. Based on what I see, there is no reason to believe it won't happen this year... AGAIN.

More conjecture and ignorance

So all the jets players who have been hurt, will get hurt

I guess the Pats should be worried about Brady

You don't know **** about the jets

Copying and pasting an article doesn't explain ****, half the media don't know what the hell they are talking about either

To say that Sanchez looked like **** as a rookie just proves your own ignorance

He had an inconsistent season, he went through the ups and downs like ALL the rookie QB's do, like Brady did, like Manning did, he also put it all together at the end of the year and peformed his best when it mattered most, that is huge. To have 3 playoff games under his belt after his first year is extremely valuable, only a dumbass like you would try to argue otherwise

I made it a point to reference Sproles because you brought up ypc and attributed a lower ypc for LT as a sign that he is done, than why not do the same for Sproles? Right, because you don't know what the **** you're talking about, this is a Jets topic, so your agenda is to spin it in any way that puts a negative slant on the Jets

You mention Thomas Jones and his 1,400 yds, then conveniently ignore how he fell off of a cliff in the playoffs. FACT, LT is a better RB, PERIOD, more ability, a great receiver out of the backfield, if healthy, there aren't many like him. The guy has been on a mission ever since he joined the Jets, seeking out Tiki Barber's trainer who helped Tiki have a successful career after he turned 30, LT's problem has been his health and a changing offensive philosophy on offense, and a declining OL. I won't sit here and tell you we got a 25 year old LT, but if he's healthy, he's still a very good RB, and he is only a part of puzzle at the position for the Jets, Greene is a load with a ton of potential, and the two of them together is an outstanding 1-2 punch.

Based on what I see, there is no reason to believe it won't happen this year...

That is your problem, you don't see ****, because you're either a moron, or you're red and blue patriot goggles are all fogged up!

Jets are a talented team, a young team, a good team, and there are reasons why they've gained national attention, you know it, and this kills you.
 
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I think that Dbrick holds his own and is a top 10 LT, I think Dbrick is as much underrated as Faneca is overrated. I don't know why Faneca was having some trouble in pass protection, could only guess.

I like Faneca and think he was great for the Jets, him being cut is a result of the Jets needing to trim some cost/cap in lieu of needing to sign there young core players. IMHO

TYVM for the reply. I'd wish you good luck in the upcoming season and all, but this is a "Jets suck" thread, after all.........
 
He had an inconsistent season, he went through the ups and downs like ALL the rookie QB's do, like Brady did, like Manning did, he also put it all together at the end of the year and peformed his best when it mattered most, that is huge. To have 3 playoff games under his belt after his first year is extremely valuable, only a dumbass like you would try to argue otherwise
After watching him play his only year at USC, the guy flat out hates getting blitzed. The Jets will go as far as their running game and the development of Sanchez. The Jets are definitely becoming the most over hyped team since the 2000 Redskins. I remember how Jets fans were getting so jacked up over the addition of Lito Sheppard last year, only to get cut the next off season. And LT will spend more time on either his bicycle on the sideline or wear his helmet on the bench next season.
Jets are a talented team, a young team, a good team, and there are reasons why they've gained national attention, you know it, and this kills you.
I think Rex Ryan is a great coach, and is the only reason why the Jets squeaked into the playoffs last season was their scheme alone. Without Ryan and his schemes, the Jets are a 5 win team at best in 2009.

The only true talent the Jets have on their team are Revis, Scott, Jenkins, Harris, Holmes, Keller and Mangold. And the depth (if you want to call it that) on the Jets is pathetic.
 
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After watching him play his only year at USC, the guy flat out hates getting blitzed. The Jets will go as far as their running game and the development of Sanchez. The Jets are definitely becoming the most over hyped team since the 2000 Redskins. I remember how Jets fans were getting so jacked up over the addition of Lito Sheppard last year, only to get cut the next off season. And LT will spend more time on either his bicycle on the sideline or wear his helmet on the bench next season.

I think Rex Ryan is a great coach, and is the only reason why the Jets squeaked into the playoffs last season was their scheme alone. Without Ryan and his schemes, the Jets are a 5 win team at best in 2009.

The only true talent the Jets have on their team are Revis, Scott, Jenkins, Harris, Holmes, Keller and Mangold. And the depth (if you want to call it that) on the Jets is pathetic.


Wow... I thought phin fans were the most delusional.

So your evaluation of Sanchez is based on what he did at USC, not last year in his rookie NFL season where he helped take his team to the AFC Championship?

Your effort to describe the Jets talent was pathetic.
 
Wow... I thought phin fans were the most delusional.

So your evaluation of Sanchez is based on what he did at USC, not last year in his rookie NFL season where he helped take his team to the AFC Championship?

Your effort to describe the Jets talent was pathetic.
Hahahaa. Dude, Sanchez barely had the throw the football in the playoffs until they had to play Indy. Also, the Jets got extremely lucky getting paired up with one of the worst division winners in NFL history (Bengals). Oh yeah, and it was Sanchez that broke the tackle of Cromartie and ran it in for a touchdown against the Chargers.

If my talent evulation of the Jets is so bad, please tell me where their talent lies? I'd really like to know.
 
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Wow... I thought phin fans were the most delusional.

So your evaluation of Sanchez is based on what he did at USC, not last year in his rookie NFL season where he helped take his team to the AFC Championship?

Your effort to describe the Jets talent was pathetic.
Sanchez was reasonable in the playoffs. If you want to hang your hat on that and ignore the 16 regular season games and 12/20 touchdown/interception ratio, 53.6% pass completion ratio, 63.0 Quarterback rating and all on the back of 364 pass attempts with one of the best running games in the NFL then be my guest.

It would have been even funnier if the Jets asked Sexy Rexy's Sanchize to throw the ball more. You'd have the entire NFL laughing at him not just the AFC East.
 
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