The Houston Texans Front Office is a Joke

[maverick4]

1. Is Matt Schaub better than David Carr?
2. Can any QB succeed behind Houston's non-existent O-line?
3. Why didn't Houston at least try to TRADE Carr instead of cut him for no value in return?

 

[TomBradyWoot]

1. Is Matt Schaub better than David Carr?
2. Can any QB succeed behind Houston's non-existent O-line?
3. Why didn't Houston at least try to TRADE Carr instead of cut him for no value in return?

IMO
1) No, David Carr was at least somewhat productive while being sacked 5 million times. Yeah he wasn't so great last year but after awhile the hits have to take a toll on you.
2) No, even our beloved Tom Brady wouldn't be Tom Brady with Houston's line.
3) I'm guessing because they traded for Schaub, the market for Carr wasn't going to be huge because teams knew they could get him as a free agent for nothing.

 

[Fencer]

Bobby Grier still works there.

 

[dhamz]

3. Why didn't Houston at least try to TRADE Carr instead of cut him for no value in return?

The Texans have been trying to trade Carr the entire offseason with no takers. He has no trade value because he was going to be cut no matter what.

His contract essentially made it that he could control where he was traded. Since no one was going to pay the 11.5m a year the existing deal had, he could simply refuse to renegotiate with any trade partner Houston could find.

 

[maverick4]

The Texans have been trying to trade Carr the entire offseason with no takers. He has no trade value because he was going to be cut no matter what.

His contract essentially made it that he could control where he was traded. Since no one was going to pay the 11.5m a year the existing deal had, he could simply refuse to renegotiate with any trade partner Houston could find.

OK, well why cut Carr instead of re-negotiate with him, and why get a relatively unknown in Schaub (only good in one game against the Pats when our secondary was horrible), pay valuable picks for him, AND pay him big money?

 

[Terry Glenn is a cowgirl]

The Texans are trying to waste all of their cap, and be crappy for years... if this was their goal... then they're right on track!!!!

 

[dhamz]

OK, well why cut Carr instead of re-negotiate with him, and why get a relatively unknown in Schaub (only good in one game against the Pats when our secondary was horrible), pay valuable picks for him, AND pay him big money?

Why would you ever renegotiate with a player your coaches think can't play?

 

[maverick4]

OK, well then the Texans made a huge mistake in mis-evaluating Carr before last year's draft (however I still think he's a quality QB who has been screwed over by his GM the past few years). Then they made a huge mistake in extending his deal and giving him an untradable contract. Finally, I think they just made another mistake in paying big for Matt Schaub.

Matt Schaub's only good game was against the Pats, when we had Starks and were giving up yardage to any QB with a working right arm.

 

[SoonerPatriot]

I'm amazed at some of the responses here regarding Schaub. I agree, Houston gave up too much in the draft/s. They should have waited a year and then all they're most likely giving up is cash instead of picks. But it's as if some have never heard of Schaub.

Schaub's name has been floating around for several years now as someone who given the chance, has the ability to be an outstanding quarterback. He's already a more polished passer than Vick will ever be (and an overall better QB IMO).

We've seen what Carr can't do, excuses aside. Let's see what Schaub can do. Had Arthur Blank not been such a stooge (giving Vick a $100 million contract), Schaub would have been handed the reigns in Atlanta two years ago.

One other not-so-minor detail, only $7 million of the $48 million is guaranteed.

 

[the taildragger]

I'm in the minority because I thought this was the best move in the history of their franchise.

Here's a prediction....Schaub, a less mobile QB than Carr, will take fewer sacks and we'll soon forget how BAD their O-line is.

Schaub can see and read the field from the pocket, he knows how to move in the pocket, deliver the ball efficiently, accurately and above all fearlessly. His linemen trust him and know where he's going to be, he understands that it's smart to stay in the pocket even when it doesn't SEEM safe.

And he's a leader....something they've never had.

If you're looking for an NFL track record Schaub doesn't have one....neither do any of the kids in the upcoming draft so don't bother with that either.

Of course Carr had a track record, but because he was a #1 overall selection and the heralded face of the franchise he got a free pass.

Casserly and Capers are out....the new regime is rebuilding. I don't care how many holes a team has, the cornerstone is always the QB....Kubiak understands this...so does everyone else who came from the Bill Walsh tree....and 99% of coaches who didn't.

If you think this is a bad move then you clearly don't know much about Matt Schaub.

Best thing about it for us is that it raised the value for Trent Green....MIAMI WILL HAVE TO SURRENDER MORE to the Chiefs in order for Cam Cameron to get the guy he wants.

 

[frankiesfly]

They passed on Vince Young and Reggie Bush to build on top of David Carr and Dominick Davis. But after one season they CUT Carr, get rid of Davis, trade two second-round picks and swap 1st rounders for Matt Schaub, and then give Schaub 48 million over 6 years!? That is almost Drew Brees-type money.

Good lord, the Texans are challenging the Lions and Matt Millen for the most bone-headed franchise in the league.

When Buffalo loses Spikes they will be right next to Houston as a joke.

 

[Oswlek]

I'm in the minority because I thought this was the best move in the history of their franchise.

Here's a prediction....Schaub, a less mobile QB than Carr, will take fewer sacks and we'll soon forget how BAD their O-line is.

Schaub can see and read the field from the pocket, he knows how to move in the pocket, deliver the ball efficiently, accurately and above all fearlessly. His linemen trust him and know where he's going to be, he understands that it's smart to stay in the pocket even when it doesn't SEEM safe.

And he's a leader....something they've never had.

If you're looking for an NFL track record Schaub doesn't have one....neither do any of the kids in the upcoming draft so don't bother with that either.

Of course Carr had a track record, but because he was a #1 overall selection and the heralded face of the franchise he got a free pass.

Casserly and Capers are out....the new regime is rebuilding. I don't care how many holes a team has, the cornerstone is always the QB....Kubiak understands this...so does everyone else who came from the Bill Walsh tree....and 99% of coaches who didn't.

If you think this is a bad move then you clearly don't know much about Matt Schaub.

Best thing about it for us is that it raised the value for Trent Green....MIAMI WILL HAVE TO SURRENDER MORE to the Chiefs in order for Cam Cameron to get the guy he wants.

You're not the only one.

I must admit that I don't share the Carr love that many have. I think he is n othing more than than a journeyman, a Joey Harrington redux, if you will.

I won't be surprised at all if he finds a place where he can be moderately successful, maybe even starting out quite good.

But I will be surprised if he amounts to anything above mediocre.