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Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by DaBruinz, Feb 28, 2019.

  1. mgteich

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    If we don't move up in the first, I think it quite likely that we draft 2 TE's before the end of the 3rd.
    :) [that is unless we sign a free agent, in which case, we'll only draft one TE in the first 100 or so picks]

     
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    Poorly timed post :)
     
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    I posted in the ASJ thread on the main board that ASJ ranked 6th in run blocking last year. I think that makes it more likely that someone like Sternberger or Josh Oliver is the pick.
     
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    Doesn’t preclude Fant of course if he falls into the twenties. ASJ in-line and Fant in the slot would be an interesting combination.
     
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    Fant is the best deep seam route runner in this draft. Followed by sternburger and smith.
     
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    For me ASJ is a replacement for Allen. He doesn't block quite as well, but he is adequate in the passing game. I presume someone like LeCosse as our 3rd, often inactive TE. Obviously, he is necessary in case of injury to ASJ.
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    If Gronk, an Allen who had some receptions, and a Hollister were OK for 2018, who would be the best choices for TE now that we have ASJ and LeCosse/Hollister?
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    Is Sternberger right? or Oliver? or Knox? or who?
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    A THOUGHT
    Perhaps being NFL ready is most important. If not, ASJ can be the Game One starter.

     
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    Fant came in for a visit today and BB was at ‘Bama for Irv Smith’s pro day. Having someone who plays the Y in ASJ enables them to go with a less conventional TE like Smith or Fant.
     
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    I see TE as much less of a need. ASJ and Lacosse are not an imposing tandem, but it is a more than respectable TE group.

    Really, what needs to be replaced in 2019 is Gronk's blocking. I'm a big fan of Dawson Knox as an athletic, mauler of a TE who could eventually develop into a pass catcher role.
     
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    How do you like Oliver for that role? Talk about a hands catcher! His QB was woefully inaccurate but that gave Oliver a chance to show off his tracking and catching skills.
     
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    Hockenson
    Fant
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    Sternberger
    Knox
    Smith
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    Warring
    Oliver
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    Sample
    Moreau
    Wesco

    Those are my tiers.
     
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    Almost exactly where I'm at, through I'd swap Knox and Moreau (but that's purely preference). I enjoyed watching Oliver snag the ball from the air. Gordon-like approach to catching.
     
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    Well this would be depressing re Sample

     
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    FWIW, the JEST have pretty terrible taste when it comes to TEs. :p
     
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    The more I watch, the more I see our own players in these guys. Irv Smith is starting to really remind me of a faster Dwayne Allen, but a little weaker. And if we take Smith, I'd expect him to be primarily a blocker just like Allen was. Sternberger reminds me alot of Jacob Hollister. So far, Hollister has just been a tease and has caused me to hate Sternberger lol. I like the athletic potential I see from Knox to be the closest we are going to get from this draft class to replace Gronk.
     
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    Just watched a lot of video on Smith.

    Honestly, I'm not a huge fan.

    If the Patriots are going to pick a 6-2, 240-pound TE in the 1st round, I think they'd have to be pretty convinced that he was non-psychopathic version of Aaron Hernandez. And Irv Smith is NOT Aaron Hernandez.

    I honestly think he's more of an H-back than a true TE. He's not a great in line blocker, he's frequently the last player to move when the ball is snapped, and I don't think he's got great change of direction skills.

    I wouldn't consider him before #73, and I don't think he'll be there.
     
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    Surprised more aren't on him tbh. Talked about him a few times in the thread. Like you said about his QB he showed off body control & some agility every game making catches.


    Natural hands



    Plays W this attitude & fire so I'm guessing his blocking can be a + at some point.



    Built like a tank at 6'5/250 & ran a 4.64. Big hands. Looks the part.


    Him & Stanley Morgon are 2 prospects I think would be perfect fits here. Much needed positions & skill sets.
     
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    I'm not a big Irv Smith fan, but he doesn't have to be Hernandez. He could be a more productive Trey Burton, if he is, and that would be an upgrade from Jacob Hollister or Stephen Anderson who are also H-back types on our current TE corps.

    NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Trey Burton

    NFL Draft & Combine Profile - Irv Smith | NFL.com
     
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    If we don't get a shot at a do it all type like Gronk, Oliver is my vote for a mid round move TE who can potentially develop a more well rounded game. He just catches so cleanly.
     
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    Yea I think someone will fall in love. The way he catches, adjust & potential yac/rz threat. I wouldn't be shocked to see him come off as early as TE3/4.
     
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    I didn't realize that ASJ was such a good run-blocker..
     

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