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Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by DaBruinz, Feb 28, 2019.

  1. BaconGrundleCandy

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    Gronk is the goat, compare anyone to him or his blocking & theyll come up short.
    Genuinely speaking a good-great class is 4-7 deep. I think you have a few guys that can make an impact right away & a few that could develop into a lot more. I understand you could say that about any class before the draft but I'd say this is in par w 2017 which is pretty good.
     
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    The best draft prospects have word names like Corn Elder or Fish Smithson, but thanks for thinking of me Manxman!
     
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    I've been putting together a list. I fully intend to dethrone you this year for list of best names. :p
     
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    Big fan of Squally Canada out of BYU. :)
     
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    Really surprised that no one mentioned Kaden Smith in this thread.
     
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    He catches everything but isn't athletic
     
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    How about pass rusher in the first and then Irv Smith/Jace Sternberger in the 2nd and Drew Sample on early Day 3?
     
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    I would like it. The opinions might differ here but in my opinion the NFL draft got to a stage where players are so well prepared to play in the league day 1 that you should always draft year by year players that will help you right away. Unless the value is overwhelmingly great we should draft the players that will help us in 2019 first. If Gronk retires double dipping at TE makes a lot of sense despite the laCosse signing.

    Which is why I wouldn't be a huge fan of drafting a safety high.
     
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    I like Hooker later, but I’d be all over Taylor Rapp early. Seems like an ideal long-term Chung replacement.
     
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    I think people are overrating Rapp because he fits the play style that they want. Yes, he's cerebral. But how good is he actually? I don't see a guy on tape that could translate his range, or lack thereof, to the NFL effectively.

    I like Andrew Wingard at safefy.

    Jonathan Abram would be a good replacement for Chung. Very tough dude.

    Darnell Savage looks like a pretty talented free safety. He's one of those small, super fast, super instinctive guys. Not saying he's at their level, but he's of the type of an Ed Reed or Earl Thomas.
     
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    Cerebral seems like a pretty good qualification to be a Patriot though don't you think? I don't overly like Rapp as a deep safety but seeing him more in the Chung role - closer to the LOS and covering TEs. Perhaps he doesn't have the range to play single high deep safety but I certainly saw someone with the range in run support.
     
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    Juan Thornhill is my favorite safety in the draft just because of his route recognition skills, and how his conversion from CB to S mirrors that of Devin McCourty.

    The biggest negatives for him was his lack of athletism which he dispelled with his great combine workout.

    NFL Draft & Combine Profile - Juan Thornhill | NFL.com
     
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    He had the best production of anyone in the passing game, in terms of passing breakups. When I watched him though, I wasn't super impressed. Seemed a little slow, kind of like you said.

    Tape kind of trumps the combine, so if he's slow on tape, I still think he's slow. Now, if he was solidly built, I'd be okay with it because then maybe he can be given a smaller range and stop the run, but he's pretty lean.

    I'm pretty mixed on him.
     
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    Cerebral is important for sure, but like I said, I want cerebral and good. What do you think about Abram for that Chung role?

    Also, it's not like we need to replace Chung per se. We just want to put the best 11 on the field, and maybe there's a guy out there who's good but does things in a different way.
     
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    His tape was fine, in my opinion, considering this past year was his first year as a full-time safety.

    With more progression, I like how his previous CB expericence could allow us more exotic looks in coverage, and size/length matchup to some pass-catching TEs, e.g. Travis Kelce.
     
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    1. I think he is cerebral and good.
    2. Yet to watch Abram.
    3. Not talking about replacing Chung this year, just want someone in place for after this year. The same could apply to McCourty. I think Rapp could do that job too (or Dawson).
     
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    I just took him in my mock draft. Isn't just about everyone at TE a project, to be fair? I mean, most of them aren't used much at receiver, and those that are tend to be in spread offenses and not know **** about blocking.

    What I loved about Moreau is that he's a beast as a blocker, and his athleticism projects well for receiving. LSU never throws enough to their WRs, let alone their TEs, so maybe it's safe to assume some of his lack of production is not his fault.
     
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    This isn't as bad as the guy who doesn't think TJ Hockenson is a player but if you actually watched Rapp you see the talent & skill set.
    For all the talk about range I can't remember him being beat deep. I want him closer to the los but the range talk makes little sense considering whats hes put on tape & likely destination at the next level.
     
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    Savage Jr is my favorite SS in this draft class, seen him projected anywhere from 2nd to 6th round. Pretty sure he doesn't make it out of the 2nd round.
     
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