Starting Slow

[Huckleberry1]

All I care about is the win. Ripping their hearts out in a ritual late game Mayan ceremony is just a bonus.

 

[sean10mm]

I wouldn't mind a soothing blowout for a change of pace, but a win is a win.

 

[Mr.Bandwagon]

This SUPERBOWL should be done after Justin Timberlake performance.......Lmao

 

[goheels22002]

Ok so I know I'm risking getting run off the board with this but oh well lol I just feel like I need to get this off my chest.

The last 2 super bowls the Patriots played spotty for 3 or so quarters but came back with unbelievable 4th quarters. I feel like, as great as belichick and Brady are, if they keep putting themselves in this position (the same position they found themselves in against the Jags as well) at some point it's going to catch up with them. I feel like a win against the Eagles is going to take a solid 4 quarters of football to get the W. If the Pats are down double digits late, I think, chances are, they are not coming back this time. Especially if they are down like they were against Atlanta, what happened in that game was a once in a lifetime occurrence. Here's to hoping the pats come out strong and play a complete game against Philly.

Sorry if it seems like I'm being negative, I know no one here probably cares what I think but I just had to get this off my chest and I felt better putting it out there publicly. Feel free to flame me if you want, it's all good.

Here we go. What recent post-season success are we talking about here? That big 15-10 win over the Falcons? Is that one in your calculation? I watched the Falcons-Eagles game. Philadelphia didn't look like such a juggernaut in that one.

So based on one Eagles playoff win at home against a Vikings team that hadn't won a road playoff game since 2004, the Eagles are somehow unbeatable with a lead? Down, boy.

What exactly about the Eagles makes you think they are somehow better than the defending SB champion 2014 Seahawks, the 2016 Falcons (who the Eagles squeaked past 15-10), or the 2017 Jaguars? Before you answer, here's a comeback from two 14 point deficits in the playoffs. Here's the Ravens in 2016:

 

[Lavictoire]

Ok so I know I'm risking getting run off the board with this but oh well lol I just feel like I need to get this off my chest.

The last 2 super bowls the Patriots played spotty for 3 or so quarters but came back with unbelievable 4th quarters. I feel like, as great as belichick and Brady are, if they keep putting themselves in this position (the same position they found themselves in against the Jags as well) at some point it's going to catch up with them. I feel like a win against the Eagles is going to take a solid 4 quarters of football to get the W. If the Pats are down double digits late, I think, chances are, they are not coming back this time. Especially if they are down like they were against Atlanta, what happened in that game was a once in a lifetime occurrence. Here's to hoping the pats come out strong and play a complete game against Philly.

Sorry if it seems like I'm being negative, I know no one here probably cares what I think but I just had to get this off my chest and I felt better putting it out there publicly. Feel free to flame me if you want, it's all good.

I would like if they would choose to take the ball rather than defer. Go uptempo and get a TD. Most teams really have a problem with the hurry-up.Psych them out.Make the other team play from behind right away.

 

[richie021501]

Here we go. What recent post-season success are we talking about here? That big 15-10 win over the Falcons? Is that one in your calculation? I watched the Falcons-Eagles game. Philadelphia didn't look like such a juggernaut in that one.

So based on one Eagles playoff win at home against a Vikings team that hadn't won a road playoff game since 2004, the Eagles are somehow unbeatable with a lead? Down, boy.

What exactly about the Eagles makes you think they are somehow better than the defending SB champion 2014 Seahawks, the 2016 Falcons (who the Eagles squeaked past 15-10), or the 2017 Jaguars? Before you answer, here's a comeback from two 14 point deficits in the playoffs. Here's the Ravens in 2016:

It has nothing to with the Eagles, I never said anything about the Vikings game.

It's about the Pats not playing at their best until late in the game. I think the odds of the Pats coming back from a double digit deficit late in the game for a 3rd straight super bowl is highly unlikely. If the Pats find themselves in that position again, odds are they're not going to win. You're unlikely to win in that situation no matter who the opponent is, but especially the winner of the NFC.

 

[Deus Irae]

I would like if they would choose to take the ball rather than defer. Go uptempo and get a TD. Most teams really have a problem with the hurry-up.Psych them out.Make the other team play from behind right away.

The Patriots have gotten the ball first in each playoff game this season. They've scored just 3 points in the first quarters of the two games, combined.

 

[1960Pats]

Wouldnt it be nice just once for another team to come out and lay and 80s suberbowl size egg in the big game. You know just crap there pants, fumble kickoffs throw pick 6s etc vs the nailbiters we get every time. Just ONCE thats all I ask!

Unfortunately, PEDton Manning doesn't play anymore. He does commercials.

 

[Doctor DDS]

The Pats actually dominated the first half against the Seahawks. Wilson had done zip until well into the 2nd quarter and it really was just a couple deep passes to a never before used WR that got them going. Pats should probably have been up 17-7 at the half but Brady threw the pick in the End Zone and the defense completely crapped the bed on that 30 second TD drive right before the half. Seattle then took complete charge of things in the 3rd up until about 12 minutes left in the game when Brady took over.

That said - we'd all love for them to come out and be up 14 points in the 1st.

 

[MassPats38]

BB has pointed out the game is a marathon, not a sprint, with the extended halftime. New teams to the show often miss that fact.

Teams like Atlanta come out in overdrive and then burn themselves out by the 4th quarter. The Pats then take over. The game tempo seems to reflect that. You do not come out as intense in an effort to stay in the lead, but try to keep the game as close as possible in order to win in the end.

I would agree the playoff teams in the AFC Championship and Super Bowl are the elite. No matter how well you prepare or execute, they will generally be tough games. Those teams are also often enigmas, as you are trying to determine what they will plan against you. Guess right and the game is easier. Guess wrong and the games probably won't go your way in the early quarters.

I doubt BB plans for slow starts. He has a plan and then adjusts. I learned last year not to hope for something other than a one possession game, as that is exactly what I got through 3 quarters - in the wrong direction. I am happy with a win, however that may come.

 

[scott99]

It's gonna be a very tough game, The Eagles have some explosive offensive weapons, and a very stout defense. I know some people are saying it was an easy road to the SB, and yeah they handled the Titans pretty easily, but the Jaguars was an extremely tough game, and I expect the Eagles game to be similar. It seems like the Pats play the SB like a prize fight, they put out some feelers early on to see what they are up against, and then they make 2nd half adjustments that seem to set up their opponent for the TKO. If that makes any sense. Hopefully they don't spend a lot of time being down 10+ in the SB. I'd love to see them even early on, and then pull away late. Just think it's gonna be another one of those heart attack games.

 

[goheels22002]

It has nothing to with the Eagles, I never said anything about the Vikings game.

It's about the Pats not playing at their best until late in the game. I think the odds of the Pats coming back from a double digit deficit late in the game for a 3rd straight super bowl is highly unlikely. If the Pats find themselves in that position again, odds are they're not going to win. You're unlikely to win in that situation no matter who the opponent is, but especially the winner of the NFC.

Oh. It has nothing to do with the Eagles? Bill Belichick and the coaching staff seem to think that winning a football game has everything to do with who they play next. Never mind.

 

[richie021501]

Oh. It has nothing to do with the Eagles? Bill Belichick and the coaching staff seem to think that winning a football game has everything to do with who they play next. Never mind.

That's Belichick, not me. I didn't say the game had nothing with Eagles. I said my post about the pats not being able to afford playing sloppy for 3 quarters had nothing to do with Eagles. No matter who their opponent was, I would say the exact same thing.

 

[Snooky97]

Think I saw it on NFL Films last season that In every SB we have been in we have never scored a point in the first quarter.

This year I’m hoping we can change that. I don’t even mind if it’s a 3 just get a bit of momentum.

There’s plenty of time for the schemes to be working. Wouldn’t surprise me if we see a lot of the backs in the passing game and abusing Gronk. Not sure the eagles can cover them.

Dola will Be Dola.
Cooks will take the top.
Hogan hopefully will be getting back to himself.

Anyway....

#LFG

 

[Uptown]

Ok so I know I'm risking getting run off the board with this but oh well lol I just feel like I need to get this off my chest.

The last 2 super bowls the Patriots played spotty for 3 or so quarters but came back with unbelievable 4th quarters. I feel like, as great as belichick and Brady are, if they keep putting themselves in this position (the same position they found themselves in against the Jags as well) at some point it's going to catch up with them. I feel like a win against the Eagles is going to take a solid 4 quarters of football to get the W. If the Pats are down double digits late, I think, chances are, they are not coming back this time. Especially if they are down like they were against Atlanta, what happened in that game was a once in a lifetime occurrence. Here's to hoping the pats come out strong and play a complete game against Philly.

Sorry if it seems like I'm being negative, I know no one here probably cares what I think but I just had to get this off my chest and I felt better putting it out there publicly. Feel free to flame me if you want, it's all good.

Nothing wrong with what you said bruh. We all wish they’d start faster, but I’m pretty sure we’ll all stomach the slow starts as long as they keep winning

 

[rochrist]

Quite frankly, it's disturbing they've come out flat for three straight playoff games. You'r correct, the SB comeback will never be replicated. You'r also correct in predicting they likely won't come back from ten or more this time around.

Why do they continuosly come out flat? No idea. It's not a normal habit for a BB led team.

The other team plays too. What you call coming out flat might easily be called the other team playing well which requires the Pats to adjust which leads to better play latter in the game.

 

[Doctor DDS]

Pats scored a TD on their first drive in the the 2007 Super Bowl but because the Giants first drive took around 10 minutes they did not score until the 2nd quarter.

 

[captain stone]

Pats are playing with fire by constantly allowing playoff-caliber teams to take leads from them. If it happens again in 2 weeks, they're going to get burned.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I don't think we came out flat yesterday, as much as I think Jacksonville was playing an almost perfect game on both sides of the ball and executing far above their normal levels. The Patriots then countered and the Jags did not adjust well.

Yeah, the other team is playing in the Super Bowl for a reason. It's because they're a really ****ing good football team. What we're seeing here is that the Pats adjust in-game better than they do. With the Pats, it's generally less about coming out flat and more about playing to something resembling the teams' relative talent levels early, then the coaching disparity shows up late.

 

[Ring 6]

Agreed. The shotgun took away our great sense of balance. Here's hoping we see a bit more running in the Super Bowl.

We won’t. The coaching staff appears to have made a clear decision between 2013 and 2014 that they will live or die on the goat. In 10 playoff games and 9 wins we have thrown an average of 46.8 passes per game and gone over 50 in half of them.