So, @RapSheet tells us Julian Edelman could be worth $7M/year on the open market

[lurker1965]

Where the F does he come up with that? What team would pay him that?

Was he one of the guys who thought Edelman might get cut last year?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Just that the fact $7M is being mentioned does not bode well. Cut that number in half, and I still doubt the Patriots pay him. You'd have Amendola and Edelman eating up a lot of cap space to play essentially the same position. Too bad, because now that Edelman proved to be a good slot WR and punt returner, he would be the better choice, but they would be unable to cut Amendola and need to hitch their wagon to him at this point.

 

[resdubwhite]

Just that the fact $7M is being mentioned does not bode well. Cut that number in half, and I still doubt the Patriots pay him. You'd have Amendola and Edelman eating up a lot of cap space to play essentially the same position. Too bad, because now that Edelman proved to be a good slot WR and punt returner, he would be the better choice, but they would be unable to cut Amendola and need to hitch their wagon to him at this point.

You'd have to think Amendola is for the shepherds hook in 2015 if he doesn't add something dynamic soon

 

[AzorianPats]

I'd rather try to get Decker if Edelman can actually get that kind of money.

All set with paying Decker #1 WR money.

He had Sherman on him all game at the Super Bowl, and he had 1 catch for 6 yards. I know Sherman great, but a good receiver wins those 1v1 battles sometimes.

I'd love Decker here, but not for anything more then $6 mil a year.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Just that the fact $7M is being mentioned does not bode well. Cut that number in half, and I still doubt the Patriots pay him. You'd have Amendola and Edelman eating up a lot of cap space to play essentially the same position. Too bad, because now that Edelman proved to be a good slot WR and punt returner, he would be the better choice, but they would be unable to cut Amendola and need to hitch their wagon to him at this point.

Remember that they made Amendola's deal basically a two-year deal inside a five-year deal. They can pay Minitron and Amendola for one year.

And go back and look at what people were saying about Welker last year and Cassel in 2009.

 

[SalemPats]

Mini-tron is awesome, 4th in receptions and 21st in yards (started the season as #4 WR). The guy is awesome. We need him, especially with Amendola being an insignificant player.

I love the Edelman haters, i can't wait to laugh at you guys when he makes the pro bowl next season

 

[patsfan-1982]

the pats will offer him 3 maybe 4 million a year and he will walk for 5 maybe 6 million per if his lucky

 

[Brady6]

Where the F does he come up with that? What team would pay him that?

Well let me ask you why he would not be worth that, last season Amendola entered UFA at 27 years coming off this season:

• Targeted-101
• Catches-63
• Yards-666
• Catch %-62.30%
• Average-10.6
• Touchdowns-3
• First Downs-38
• 100+ Yard Games-2
• Multi Touchdown Games-0

We signed him to a 5-year contract worth $28.5m, which has an average salary of $5.7m per season.

Edelman will enter free agency at 27 year’s old coming off this season:

• Targeted-151
• Catches-105
• Yards-1056
• Catch %-69.53%
• Average-10.1
• Touchdowns-6
• First Downs-54
• 100+ Yard Games-4
• Multi Touchdown Games-2

Personally I am with you Edelman should not get $7m per but if Amendola received $5.7 than Edelman is worth $1.3m more based on his performance, especially when you take into account that Edelman accomplished his season on a winning team and add 16 catches for 173 yards, and 1 touchdown in 2 post season games.

 

[Brady6]

Just that the fact $7M is being mentioned does not bode well. Cut that number in half, and I still doubt the Patriots pay him. You'd have Amendola and Edelman eating up a lot of cap space to play essentially the same position. Too bad, because now that Edelman proved to be a good slot WR and punt returner, he would be the better choice, but they would be unable to cut Amendola and need to hitch their wagon to him at this point.

That makes ZERO sense to me. They paid Amendola $5.7m on average but you think Edelman deserves $3.5? Are you serious? You realize Edelman is only the third WR in Patriots history to have 100+ catches and 1000+ yards. This slot receiver is a system thing is so ridiculous, if it was a system than Amendola would not been replaced with Edelman at halftime of the Broncos game and never sees the starting lineup again, because the system would have made him successful. The fact is that we F’ed up when we set the market on Amendola so high and Edelman put himself in a position to benefit from that and he will make no mistake about it.

I love how everyone sits here like the “Patriots won’t pay him that HA” well someone will and in that scenario we are the losers because we have Amendola at $5.7m who is a lesser player and the other team has Edelman for basically the same price. We are not holding any cards here Edelman holds them all and we just gave him more to play by overpaying a similar but lesser player 12 months ago.

 

[Brady6]

If Edelman walks, we enter 2014 with –
• Gronkowski
• Amendola
• Vereen
• Dobson
• Thompkins
• Boyce
• Moe

Given the question marks associated with most of those players, I think anyone suggesting we let Edelman walk should ensure they do not drive or operate machinery tonight because they are impaired.

 

[Brady6]

I have a really hard time understanding the logic behind people suggesting Edelman is only worth $3-$4 mil. The Broncos paid a 32 year old Welker $6 mil, in 2012 we franchised a 31 year old Welker at $9.5 mil, and last season we paid Amendola $5.7 mil. Why is Edelman worth so little in comparison?

 

[ivanvamp]

I have a really hard time understanding the logic behind people suggesting Edelman is only worth $3-$4 mil. The Broncos paid a 32 year old Welker $6 mil, in 2012 we franchised a 31 year old Welker at $9.5 mil, and last season we paid Amendola $5.7 mil. Why is Edelman worth so little in comparison?

Because Edelman doesn't have the same track record of success as those guys.

 

[Jackson 2]

Was he one of the guys who thought Edelman might get cut last year?

No, actually most of those guys are posters here.

 

[Brady6]

Because Edelman doesn't have the same track record of success as those guys.

I see first opportunity, first successful season. Also Amendola’s track record was not that impressive his signing was based more on potential, he never exceed 689 yards in a season, had 7 career touchdowns and averaged 8.8 yards per catch which was the worst of any wide receiver with 100 or more receptions in the last 20 years.

Edelman is worth more than Amendola that is just a fact. You get 100+ catch, 1000+ yard receiver, and the all-time leader in NFL history for punt return average. I am not knocking Amendola but he was neither of those things when he signed. The main difference between Edelman and Amendola is Edelman had his season with Amendola in front of him on the depth chart and had to take advantage or injuries and performance to hurdle Amendola, when Amendola had his seasons of success he did not have anyone that he had to outperform.

 

[Brady6]

For $7m, I hope he enjoys Texas/Cleveland.

Unfortunately, we created this monster by franchising Welker at $9.5m in 2012 and paying Amendola $5.7m last offseason. So if you just look at it like this:

• Is Edelman worth $1.3m more than Amendola is worth?
• Is Edelman worth $2.5m less than we paid for a 31-year-old Wes Welker?

 

[alvinnf]

7m sounds fair to me. Beyond just his WR numbers, he saves and or produces yards as a punt returner. I have no problem with 7m, then sign Scott Chandler at TE and I am fine with that side of the ball. Sounds like a bargain!

 

[IllegalContact]

I agree. It's about having a consistent vision and finding players who fit, and then coaching them up and using them appropriately. The Pats' have been schizophrenic, and that has caused them to miss out on many opportunities:

- Taking Jermaine Cunningham at #53 in 2010 and passing up DEs like Greg Hardy and Carlos Dunlap.
- Taking behemoth LBs like Brandon Spikes and Dont'a Hightower and passing up guys like Sean Lee, Navorro Bowman and Lavonte David.
- Not having a clear, consistent approach to the DB group. We took a ton of surf CBs, or finesse guys like Darius Butler. Our secondary played so much better with physical guys like Talib and Dennard.

The Seahawks had a consistent vision, and they went out and got players who fit that vision, and loaded up on depth. They play an aggressive, attacking defense without being undisciplined (despite all the trash talk).

We need to spend resources on the defense, but the backbone is there. It's not about spending a ton of money or over-paying for FAs. It's about having a consistent approach and finding solid talent that fits that approach.

I'm just wondering how the Seahawks would have fared without Wagner, mebane, McDaniel, giacomini, and miller.

The reality is that they had everyone for the playoffs.......sometimes things just work out well

 

[patsfan-1982]

I have a really hard time understanding the logic behind people suggesting Edelman is only worth $3-$4 mil. The Broncos paid a 32 year old Welker $6 mil, in 2012 we franchised a 31 year old Welker at $9.5 mil, and last season we paid Amendola $5.7 mil. Why is Edelman worth so little in comparison?

I will not even talk about welker cause he had the most rec in NFL history in his 6 years with the pats he just had bad luck hitting the open market at 32,

Danny Amendola had 63 rec in 11 games with the rams in 2012 Edelman had 69 career rec before this season im sure if BB knew that Edelman would have the season that he had this year and playing a full 16 games for the first time in his career he never would have signed Amendola, the pats don't have a lot of cap space and really cant pay 12 million a year for two slot WR's and keep Aqib Talib and Wilfork, now Edelman may get 6 or 7 million on the open market but other then in new England how many slot WR's have had 100 rec around the NFL in the last 5 years I bet its not a lot if any,

he had 35 rec in the 7 games that gronk played in and 70 rec in the 9 games with out gronk. BOTTOM LINE for a big part of the season his all Brady had to throw to and teams will look at that and may not want to pay him that kind of money, but we will find out next month

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I have a really hard time understanding the logic behind people suggesting Edelman is only worth $3-$4 mil. The Broncos paid a 32 year old Welker $6 mil, in 2012 we franchised a 31 year old Welker at $9.5 mil, and last season we paid Amendola $5.7 mil. Why is Edelman worth so little in comparison?

first healthy year...first good year....wasn't hurt...the BIG ones

 

[Archeryaddict12]

I have a really hard time understanding the logic behind people suggesting Edelman is only worth $3-$4 mil. The Broncos paid a 32 year old Welker $6 mil, in 2012 we franchised a 31 year old Welker at $9.5 mil, and last season we paid Amendola $5.7 mil. Why is Edelman worth so little in comparison?

Brady, I know it is hard to believe. But amendola has been healthier and more productive than Edelman. Edelman had his first healthy season in the offense.