So Michael Sam Is Gay, Who Cares? Can He Rush The QB?

[Boogs]

Bouncing.. your eyes away..?

That is beyond deranged.

I know. It's so terrible to teach a kid how to discipline their mind.

 

[PP2]

Sorry you think that fake punt. Most people I'm around think I'm allright.

Of course. Laws of attraction. Bigotry attracts bigotry.

 

[Boogs]

Of course. Laws of attraction. Bigotry attracts bigotry.

Lol. My friends don't all think like me.

 

[PP2]

Quite a few kids in this country actually.

Not today. Kids are much more independent and smarter than they used to be. Not likely to give into coercion.

 

[PP2]

I know, I'd be a terrible father to not allow them their Playgirl magazines and unsupervised computer/tv use. And terrible to keep them from dating until they're old enough.

And once they're old enough, you're going to allow playgirl magazines in the house, allow your gay son to bring home his boyfriend and sit at the dining room table with you and your family?

 

[Boogs]

Not today. Kids are much more independent and smarter than they used to be. Not likely to give into coercion.

Thankfully there are still some kids who do listen to this advice. I can tell it eats you up that some listen to their parents and that not all of them are out there sexing it up like you want them to.

 

[PP2]

I know. It's so terrible to teach a kid how to discipline their mind.

No.. what you're doing is not teaching discipline, but repression.

Discipline is getting up in the morning on time, not procrastinating work, and controlling your anger.

Discipline can be said to include sexual desire in that you don't act on them, but you don't stop feeling them either.

But to do otherwise isn't discipline, it's suppression.

And only because you want things your way.

 

[PP2]

Lol. My friends don't all think like me.

Thankfully.

 

[PP2]

Thankfully there are still some kids who do listen to this advice. I can tell it eats you up that some listen to their parents and that not all of them are out there sexing it up like you want them to.

Not surprised that you are making assumptions about me, since making assumptions is what bigots do. You undoubtedly feel superior to me, which is fine by me. What I will not tolerate is you imposing your bigotry on other people.

You fail to see that there is a big hole in your hypothesis that disciplining kids is a must, because there are so many examples of kids who come from broken family, who had no parents, or only one, or who had parents on drugs, who have met with considerable success.

 

[PP2]

Quite a few kids in this country actually.

BTW, its obvious you don't have any kids.

So you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[PP2]

Why then did you say you against a father promoting abstinence? So I assumed you were for kids doing whatever they feel like doing sexually.

I am not against fathers promoting abstinence out of concern for the weil-being of their children.

I am against fathers promoting abstinence only because they don't want to imagine their gay kids having sex.

That is a self-serving agenda.

 

[Boogs]

Not surprised that you are making assumptions about me, since making assumptions is what bigots do. You undoubtedly feel superior to me, which is fine by me. What I will not tolerate is you imposing your bigotry on other people.

You fail to see that there is a big hole in your hypothesis that disciplining kids is a must, because there are so many examples of kids who come from broken family, who had no parents, or only one, or who had parents on drugs, who have met with considerable success.

Why then did you say you against a father promoting abstinence? So I assumed you were for kids doing whatever they feel like doing sexually.

 

[Boogs]

I am not against fathers promoting abstinence out of concern for the weil-being of their children.

I am against fathers promoting abstinence only because they don't want to imagine their gay kids having sex.

That is a self-serving agenda.

Gay or straight sex for their children fall under the same category. For the well being of their children.

 

[Ring 6]

I know, I'd be a terrible father to not allow them their Playgirl magazines and unsupervised computer/tv use. And terrible to keep them from dating until they're old enough.

You know that is not what we are talking about, but you continue to dodge my question. I will spell it out again.

You son or daughter comes to you and tells you they are gay. That they know how you feel about gays so they have kept it from you. But they are gay, feel no shame, and have no intention to change, and are in a committed relationship and want you to accept them for what they are and accept their partner.

Surely you aren't going to tell them to abstain from sex and think good heterosexual thoughts so they can change themselves, right? So what do you do?

 

[PP2]

Why then did you say you against a father promoting abstinence? So I assumed you were for kids doing whatever they feel like doing sexually.

You know I wasn't talking about fathers preaching abstinence in general.

No need to play dumb.

 

[Ring 6]

I know. It's so terrible to teach a kid how to discipline their mind.

You have basically said that if your kid told you they were gay, you would love them and get them help, as if they told you they had a disease.

 

[PP2]

Gay or straight sex for their children fall under the same category. For the well being of their children.

Then by the same logic, at the appropriate age and maturity, both a gay child and a straight child will be free to act upon their feelings and choose their partner or to have sex in general?

 

[Boogs]

You know that is not what we are talking about, but you continue to dodge my question. I will spell it out again.

You son or daughter comes to you and tells you they are gay. That they know how you feel about gays so they have kept it from you. But they are gay, feel no shame, and have no intention to change, and are in a committed relationship and want you to accept them for what they are and accept their partner.

Surely you aren't going to tell them to abstain from sex and think good heterosexual thoughts so they can change themselves, right? So what do you do?

I answered that today Andy. Go back.

 

[Boogs]

Then by the same logic, at the appropriate age and maturity, both a gay child and a straight child will be free to act upon their feelings and choose their partner or to have sex in general?

I'll teach hetero sex has to wait until marriage. I see homo sex as always unnatural and immoral. But both are wrong for kids the way I'll raise them. Hopefully I don't have to address the homosexual aspect.

 

[Ring 6]

I answered that today Andy. Go back.

No, you said if your kid was gay you would get them help.

I am asking how you would respond if they told you they were gay, have no problem with being gay, don't want 'help to not be gay' and are in a committed relationship and are asking for you to accept and support their lifestyle and partner.

You can't honestly tell me you would look at them and tell them they are sick and you will bring them to someone who can ungay them.