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.... since there is really no rhyme or reason behind them.

1. The good news is the offense scored on most of their drives and the bad news can be summed up very simply. 2 TDs, FOUR FGs. That TD/FG ratio is not going to do it when the Pats start playing the NO's and Indy's of the league. I think the Pats SELF destructed on a couple of those FG drives with penalties, and then of course there was "Law Firm" dropped pass/bad throw by Brady.

2. I almost wept when the NFL called what I taught was a perfect tackle a penalty. Pat Chung put his facemask into the CHEST of the QB and not only did the ref throw the flag; the announcers agreed with it, and NO ONE seemed to think anything was wrong. Its one thing to protect the QB, and I'm all for it, especially the knees, but when a guy does EXACTLY the right thing and gets a flag....I'm just scratching my head. It is SOOOOOO sad

3. I had another couple of questions of the officials. Tell me, is the uncatchable ball rule still in effect? On the first Dophin TD drive the refs call a PI on Boddin. Since CBS never showed the play again, I have to guess that Boddin cut off his route with a physical act. because the ball was NO WHERE near the player But isn't that illegal contact, a 5yd penalty not the spot foul the refs gave him?

Late in the game the Dophins were called for a delay of the game penalty, when they tried to call a TO they didn't have. What I found curious was that after the 5 yds was assessed the clock didn't start until the ball was snapped. What I find curious is that the Penalty actually BENEFITTED the Phins. The clock stoppage was more important to the phins at that time than the 5 yds they lost. What's up with that. If the refs called that corrrectly, then the rule should be changed.

Finally was it just me, but on the last drive, DIDN'T that measurment look like a first down to you? Wasn't the tip of the ball hitting the stake? Again nothing of interest from the announcers, and no seemed to question it.

BTW- interesting situation for the Pats at the end. Do you go for it on 4th down and an inch. You are moving the ball on the ground. You only need an inch to end the game, and even if you fail, the offense would have to go 83 yds in a about 80 seconds with NO TO's.

Then again you have to think you can execute a 40 yd FG to win/ice a game. Personally I go for it for all the reason's above, but i'm interested in what others think

4. The announcers were brutal, they didn't know whose ass to kiss first. However they did make some unusal calls. When they show the replay of the last play in the half, it clearly shows that there WAS one second left when the ball hit off Randy's hands. Yet the announcers make it sound like the Pats got away with something. What's up with that?????

5. The Phins had ONE drive when they ran the ball well. The rest of the time the Pats stuffed a good running teams run pretty well. The Pat White version of the wildcat looked great for the ONE drive, but after that it did NOTHING. Nice job of the Pats staff to make the correct adjustment, and the players to execute it.

6. I found it interesting that the Pats moved Vince out to the DT position, and had Mike Wright over the middle most of the game. Interesting adjustment that evidently worked very well.

7. I HATED that 10 minute TD drive that started the first half. It was Miami's best moment. Henne played very well I thought, and looked better than Sanchez. It bodes well for Miami's future. They will be a load to handle if they ever get a couple of real playmakers at WR.

8. I thought the secondary played pretty well for the most part. They came so VERY close to picks on several occassions. However the one play that had me pissed was a 3rd down completion to the WR to the 2 yd line in that long drive. I thought Boddin played that situation WAY too soft. Especially when he was playing it tight, he was so often so effective. I was happy to see that the GL D stopped Miami twice at the one, even though they ended up scoring on a pass (I have Brown on one of my FF teams )

9. I thought the OL had a great game. Very good job by Volmer, though they gave him help a lot. The kid will be a starter next year, but I hope when Light gets back, HE'S the LT. The good news is that the Pats won't have to rush him back until he's 100%. Brady gave up one coverage sack, and the other wasn't that bad either. By and large Brady had plenty of time to throw the ball. The fact he didn't find an open man on a couple of failed passes in the red zone disturbed me, but I have no idea why he couldn't.

10. Great job by Moroney in finding the open gaps. He was doing his usual stutter step, patiently waiting for something to open up. The DIFFERENCE was NOW creases were opening, and when he spotted them, he SLASHED and got the 4-6 yds. The 2 times he lost ydage, he had no chance. The rest of the time he got was was there...sometimes MORE than what was there.

11. It was good to see Porter wind up with a string of ZEROES next to his stat box. It was bad to see Ron Brace had the same stat box. It was good to see how effective Pat Chung was on his blitzes. It was bad to see how the Pats failed to put pressure on the QB when they just went with a 4 man rush. It was good to see AD make some big plays. It was bad to see Burgess make none. It was good to see both Mayo and Boddin get back in the game after going down. It was bad to see Koppen limp off and NOT come back. I hope Kendall Simmons hasn't given up his apt.

BOTTOM LINE - IMHO, the Pats showed us a workman like job. It was good, NOT great. The offense HAS to score TDs, NOT FGs if they hope to beat the best teams in the league, and the Defense STILL has to do a better job getting off the field on 3rd down. In today's game Miami had about a 50% success rate. I'd like to see that drop to around 35%. (though I think if we hold Manning to a 50% success rate on 3rd down, we'll win that shoot out in the dome) Both sides of the ball have so room to grow better, and NOW would be a good time.
 
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It was a good tackle, but his helmet slid up and hit the crown of Henne's facemask. That is where it turned into a penalty.

Poor technique on Chung's part for going on a high angle. He should aim for the waist if he is going to hit hard. That is the angle that leaves you a safe margin for error.
 
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The only thing I questioned today was the play calling.

Screen plays on 3rd down, and the consecutive draws, were disappointing. You have Brady out there, you have to put it in his hands.
 
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2. I almost wept when the NFL called what I taught was a perfect tackle a penalty. Pat Chung put his facemask into the CHEST of the QB and not only did the ref throw the flag; the announcers agreed with it, and NO ONE seemed to think anything was wrong. Its one thing to protect the QB, and I'm all for it, especially the knees, but when a guy does EXACTLY the right thing and gets a flag....I'm just scratching my head. It is SOOOOOO sad
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Absolutely not.

It was blatant roughing. He put the crown of his helmet up into henne's face. It SHOULD have been 15, and hes SHOULD get a fine.

And yes, I'm a patriots fan. That was a clear blatant penalty.
 
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10. Great job by Moroney in finding the open gaps. He was doing his usual stutter step, patiently waiting for something to open up. The DIFFERENCE was NOW creases were opening, and when he spotted them, he SLASHED and got the 4-6 yds. The 2 times he lost ydage, he had no chance. The rest of the time he got was was there...sometimes MORE than what was there.

Maroney had 2 No-Gains. He did not lose yardage once.

That is whats so great about Maroney: no matter how screwed up the play is, he NEVER loses yards.
 
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Absolutely not.

It was blatant roughing. He put the crown of his helmet up into henne's face. It SHOULD have been 15, and hes SHOULD get a fine.

And yes, I'm a patriots fan. That was a clear blatant penalty.

You're wrong. Chung was aiming for the chest.
 
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I think the game ball has to go to the Pats OL and Gostkowski.

OL held Porter and Taylor to a total of 2 tackles and zero sacks.

Brady got only 1 sack and 4 hurries I think.
 
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You're wrong. Chung was aiming for the chest.

It doesn't matter where he was aiming. He put the crown of his helmet into the QB's face.

He was leading with the helmet, and hit a QB in the head. Both are penalties.
 
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Great post as usual, PFK.
I thought Burgess got a pass defended, though.
BTW-I started Ronnie Brown, too.
 
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You're wrong. Chung was aiming for the chest.

Don't know where he was aiming for, and it doesn't really matter IMO. The end result was the crown of his helmet in Henne's chin, and that will and should get called (and fined) every time.

You're not even allowed to hit the QB in the head with your hand, so of course that's going to get called.
 
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During Henne's forward pass, which was overruled as an original fumble, it should have been penalty since it hit an offensive lineman first.

You can't have it both ways.
 
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"Finally was it just me, but on the last drive, DIDN'T that measurment look like a first down to you? Wasn't the tip of the ball hitting the stake? Again nothing of interest from the announcers, and no seemed to question it."

It looked to me like they were leaning the measurment stick at an angle. If the refs would have held the sticks straight up, it would have been a first down. At least that's what it lookw like to me. The group of guys I was with at the Sports Bar were yelling at the refs to hold the sticks straight.
 
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Maroney had 2 No-Gains. He did not lose yardage once.

That is whats so great about Maroney: no matter how screwed up the play is, he NEVER loses yards.

He doesn't fumble either. He rarely gets credit for that.
 
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Don't know where he was aiming for, and it doesn't really matter IMO. The end result was the crown of his helmet in Henne's chin, and that will and should get called (and fined) every time.

You're not even allowed to hit the QB in the head with your hand, so of course that's going to get called.

The point I am arguing was that it was NOT blatant as Synovia made it out to be. It was simply poor technique on Chung's part. He aimed for upper chest and of course his helmet slid up and made contact with Henne's facemask, that's simple physics because Henne is falling backwards, so the force Chung is applying has to go somewhere so it took the path of least resistance.
 
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During Henne's forward pass, which was overruled as an original fumble, it should have been penalty since it hit an offensive lineman first.

You can't have it both ways.

That's incidential, it's irrevelant who the ball hits.
 
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Some thoughts from today:
1-Moss is a superstar, there is no question about that.
2-Maroney is playing the best I've seen him.
3- What is it with our inability to stop 3rd down conversions? Still playing that soft coverage? Why?
4-Wilfork is a stud. We already knew this.
 
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Some thoughts from today:
1-Moss is a superstar, there is no question about that.
2-Maroney is playing the best I've seen him.
3- What is it with our inability to stop 3rd down conversions? Still playing that soft coverage? Why?
4-Wilfork is a stud. We already knew this.

It's hardly loved on here, but you should check out Vince's run-stopping rating on ProFootballFocus.

Ye Gads.
 
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Absolutely not.

It was blatant roughing. He put the crown of his helmet up into henne's face. It SHOULD have been 15, and hes SHOULD get a fine.

And yes, I'm a patriots fan. That was a clear blatant penalty.

When you say "crown" of his helmet, are you referring to the top of his helmet, like in a spear? If you are than you are just wrong. He put his facemask in his CHEST. The top of his helmet NEVER hit Henne. If it has, I wouldn't complain. BUT HE DIDN'T. Not even close. Maybe someone can find a clip on UTube
 
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The point I am arguing was that it was NOT blatant as Synovia made it out to be. It was simply poor technique on Chung's part. He aimed for upper chest and of course his helmet slid up and made contact with Henne's facemask, that's simple physics because Henne is falling backwards, so the force Chung is applying has to go somewhere so it took the path of least resistance.

Fair enough- I'd agree that Chung probably didn't intend to put his helmet in Henne's chin, especially since that was an especially terrible time for a penalty. I agree that it was a technique thing, but he'll still get fined for it, as he should.
 
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When you say "crown" of his helmet, are you referring to the top of his helmet, like in a spear? If you are than you are just wrong. He put his facemask in his CHEST. The top of his helmet NEVER hit Henne. If it has, I wouldn't complain. BUT HE DIDN'T. Not even close. Maybe someone can find a clip on UTube

Chung was NOT spearing.. I don't know where Synovia is coming from.
 
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