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RobertWeathers

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From now on I want all reporters to ask players a yes or no question.

Do you think the Patriots cheat?

No 100 word responses. No sideways discussion.

Yes or No.

Keep asking until the admit it.

So tired of these drive bys
Ben clearly is a yes. He's on the list.
 

MitchKumstein

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I didn't realize that the Steelers were playing SF this weekend

Very kind of the NFL to let the Steelers with 9 days rest host the 49ers who had 5 days rest

Guess Tomlin /Roethlisberger can't cry about that one
 

robbomango

In the Starting Line-Up
Yea i do think Ben's a pretty tough guy but he is a complete ham.

He's like that kid who falls off his bike, scrapes his knee and is fine. As soon as his mom shows up he starts crying and acts like he fractured his kneecap.
His theatrics are legendary, I'll never forget that Browns game where he was limping up and down the sideline swinging the towel before entering the game.
After the game they asked him where he got his toughness and he gladly told a story about how tough his gramma was.

I like him as a qb but he's a drama queen blowhard..
 

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This is the Ideal Gas Law for radio frequencies.


http://blog.rfvenue.com/headsetgate-is-not-a-conspiracy/
I have a possible problem with the linked article. It states that The Sports Hub has it's own transmitter in Gillette stadium and that this powerful signal was picked up by the poorly grounded shield of the coaches analog signal cable before it got digitized and encrypted. But in reality, the FM transmitter is in Newton. I would think the signal from the stadium to Newton (possibly routed through The Sports Hub studios) is probably land line or line of sight microwave, which would moot the theory of a poorly grounded coaches signal ground wire acting as an antenna. I might be wrong about this and would appreciate any constructive comment.
 
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RobertWeathers

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His theatrics are legendary, I'll never forget that Browns game where he was limping up and down the sideline swinging the towel before entering the game.
After the game they asked him where he got his toughness and he gladly told a story about how tough his gramma was.

I like him as a qb but he's a drama queen blowhard..
I think in 14 years I've seen TB limp around twice. One was the ACL injury and the other was the AFCCG vs SD and he tried his damndest not to.
 

sevengables_2207

In the Starting Line-Up
Patriots mantra: "We're on to Buffalo"

Steelers mantra: "We're back to (crying/complaining about) New England"

* Expect this scenario to unfold after each and every Patriots win this season, folks. ;)
 

RobertWeathers

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I have a possible problem with the linked article. It states that The Sports Hub has it's own transmitter in Gillette stadium and that this powerful signal was picked up by the poorly grounded shield of the coaches analog signal cable before it got digitized and encrypted. But in reality, the FM transmitter is in Newton. I would think the signal from the stadium to Newton (possibly routed through The Sports Hub studios) is probably land line or line of sight microwave, which would moot the theory of a poorly grounded coaches signal ground wire acting as an antenna. I might be wrong about this and would appreciate any constructive comment.

My guess is that the scenario in which would seemingly support the article's viewpoint would be that the Sports Hub is utilizing Synchronous FM SFN Transmitting for Pats game broadcasts.

So there is a FM Transmitter at Gillette which is broadcasting from its location and its picked up at the Newton station which is a 9000w, Class B station.

http://www.radioworld.com/article/dynamic-delay-control-in-synchronous-fm-broadcast-systems/4350

Thats it for my knowledge on the topic. :p

Hope that helped.
 

raduray

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My guess is that the scenario in which would seemingly support the article's viewpoint would be that the Sports Hub is utilizing Synchronous FM SFN Transmitting for Pats game broadcasts.

So there is a FM Transmitter at Gillette which is broadcasting from its location and its picked up at the Newton station which is a 9000w, Class B station.

http://www.radioworld.com/article/dynamic-delay-control-in-synchronous-fm-broadcast-systems/4350

Thats it for my knowledge on the topic. :p

Hope that helped.
That's an interesting theory. However, if you click on the coverage map link at this website, http://radio-locator.com/info/WBZ-FM , there is no need for a repeater. Furthermore, I submitted a search to the FCC database for FM transmitters ( https://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/fm-query-broadcast-station-search ) and it didn't find any record of a FCC license for an FM transmitter in Foxborough.

BTW, I emailed the article's author and hope he responds with a clarification.
 

NashuaPats

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“I always felt that they knew some of our offensive plays,” Roethlisberger said. “For whatever reason., maybe it was better scouting or whatever, but I had always felt that.”

Of course Belichick's father wrote the book that is considered the bible on scouting and Bill has been scouting teams since he was a child. Maybe, just maybe that has something to do with it. Maybe, Belichick is a really smart football coach who prepares for games diligently. Or whatever.
 

wrangler

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Yup BR is the man. He really showed R Seymour how tough he is. To me, he is a joke.
Pretty good QB though. Legend in his own mind.:rolleyes:
 

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I have a possible problem with the linked article. It states that The Sports Hub has it's own transmitter in Gillette stadium and that this powerful signal was picked up by the poorly grounded shield of the coaches analog signal cable before it got digitized and encrypted. But in reality, the FM transmitter is in Newton. I would think the signal from the stadium to Newton (possibly routed through The Sports Hub studios) is probably land line or line of sight microwave, which would moot the theory of a poorly grounded coaches signal ground wire acting as an antenna. I might be wrong about this and would appreciate any constructive comment.

The article says that Sports HUB has a local transmitter in the stadium. If the transmitter is AM like those traffic transmitters or the transmitters found in tunnels, it makes a lot of sense. It is very difficult to have a malfunctioning piece of equipment demodulate an FM signal to audio. AM, on the other hand, is trivial to demodulate. It happens often accidentally. All you need is a single diode or even two dissimilar metals and you form a detector diode that strips off the AM carrier - which leaves you with the original audio.

The NFL admits there was a power problem. So lets say the equipment was receiving 70 volts. That would leave the logic level supplies sufficiently underpowered for the decription digital circuitry to produce any output. But the audio amp would still function at reduced voltage.

It is very easy to accidentally make an AM radio receiver. You do not even need a power supply or the ability to tune a circuit. Just a diode like device and a speaker or earphones and it will pick up the strongest local signal.
 

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I have a possible problem with the linked article. It states that The Sports Hub has it's own transmitter in Gillette stadium and that this powerful signal was picked up by the poorly grounded shield of the coaches analog signal cable before it got digitized and encrypted. But in reality, the FM transmitter is in Newton. I would think the signal from the stadium to Newton (possibly routed through The Sports Hub studios) is probably land line or line of sight microwave, which would moot the theory of a poorly grounded coaches signal ground wire acting as an antenna. I might be wrong about this and would appreciate any constructive comment.

I know from being at the Super Bowl, many (if not all) stadiums have their own transmitters for broadcast in the stadium. At the Super Bowl, the gift bag at every set has a radio with headphones with preset stations that have the national radio and TV broadcasts and both local radio broadcasts. So my guess is that the Patriots have their own transmitter that broadcasts The Sports Hub's broadcast to certain parts of the stadium.
 

Gumby

In the Starting Line-Up
I know from being at the Super Bowl, many (if not all) stadiums have their own transmitters for broadcast in the stadium. At the Super Bowl, the gift bag at every set has a radio with headphones with preset stations that have the national radio and TV broadcasts and both local radio broadcasts. So my guess is that the Patriots have their own transmitter that broadcasts The Sports Hub's broadcast to certain parts of the stadium.

I was also wondering about
1. the proximity of the hub broadcast booth to the visitors coaches booth

2. OR if the hub booth could have used wireless to transmit to their repeater or whatever they are using to send the signal to newton.
 

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