RIP Vegas, Raider Nation looks to be coming to town

[Froob]

I would think it would pass

 

[Brit patriot]

As a Brit, I will never understand the idea that franchises can just move, and to hell with the fans of the current team. It seems vile.

What do they do? They can't support a local rival as they will be natural enemies. It just seems to finish the fan's involvement with the sport.

I love the sport, but I hope that transitory system stays your side of the Atlantic

 

[Anteros]

As a Brit, I will never understand the idea that franchises can just move, and to hell with the fans of the current team. It seems vile.

What do they do? They can't support a local rival as they will be natural enemies. It just seems to finish the fan's involvement with the sport.

I love the sport, but I hope that transitory system stays your side of the Atlantic

You guys should get rid of Stan Kroenke and any other American that tries to buy your teams. Not only will relocation be common but say goodbye to promotion and relegation as well, if you allow it to continue.

 

[farn]

Expos left & broke my heart.

 

[Brit patriot]

You guys should get rid of Stan Kroenke and any other American that tries to buy your teams. Not only will relocation be common but say goodbye to promotion and relegation as well, if you allow it to continue.

What horrible, yet probably correct thought.

It has happened once when a team called Wimbledon moved to a place called Milton Keynes...caused outrage at the time, so not happened again. However, I can see us heading down that route.

 

[PatsFanInLondon]

You guys should get rid of Stan Kroenke and any other American that tries to buy your teams. Not only will relocation be common but say goodbye to promotion and relegation as well, if you allow it to continue.

PL team owners don't have anywhere near as much power as their NFL counterparts, so we'll never get rid of promotion/relegation (thank God!)

Other than West Ham being gifted their new stadium, you don't get much public funding of new stadia either, so you rarely (if ever) see an owner dangling the threat of relocation unless the local council coughs up the money?


(And where would an English team relocate? We've got 92 league soccer clubs and are pretty well covered a stadium it is...)

 

[convertedpatsfan]

Expos left & broke my heart.

I was more heartbroken about the strike stealing our shot at winning it all. The team moving was the inevitable and predictable end after that lost postseason, and the subsequent fire sale ending all hope.

 

[farn]

I was more heartbroken about the strike stealing our shot at winning it all. The team moving was the inevitable and predictable end after that lost postseason, and the subsequent fire sale ending all hope.

Everything went to Hell after 1994... including the fact that all those amazing deals that had brought IN talent (such as Pedro for an established DeShields) ran dry. And they got nothing for the Grissoms of the world. The 1996 team was pretty good - but Lansing alone can't make up for Walker, Wetteland, Grissom...

Was a sad time. Even that 1989 team - just look at the pitching staff. They just blew it every time they were on the cusp.

I know how the Charger/Raider fans feel.

 

[Gwedd]

A smart business man (or woman) would buy into the Raiders move and build a "Raider Nation" theme park, complete with a hotel and casino, right alongside the stadium, similar to Gillette.

It's gonna be close enough for fans to come and stay the weekend to watch the games, and if Amtrak was smart, they'd run a "Raiders" themed train each weekend from Cali to LV.

That franchise, if done right, could not only turn into a quality product, but give New England, Dallas and Green Bay a run for their money as one of the richest teams in the league.

 

[shmessy]

As a Brit, I will never understand the idea that franchises can just move, and to hell with the fans of the current team. It seems vile.

What do they do? They can't support a local rival as they will be natural enemies. It just seems to finish the fan's involvement with the sport.

I love the sport, but I hope that transitory system stays your side of the Atlantic

I fully agree, it is completely evil. And then the franchise furthers the insult by KEEPING the name - which is often a proud characteristic of the left-at-the-altar city/region. It's like someone stealing your wife and kids and then changing his name to yours and living on the next street.

So the State with the nickname Land of 10,000 Lakes has to deal with the insult of the Los Angeles Lakers for over 55 years.

Brooklyn, where the team and fans had to "Dodge" trolley cars to get to Ebbetts Field has to deal with the insult of the LA Dodgers.

Maryland, which is one of the epicenters of horse race breeding has to deal with the insult of the Indianapolis Colts.

I can only think of what the good folks of the French Quarter in New Orleans think of the "Utah Jazz".

 

[italian pat patriot]

i still can not believe that in a so fast time we could have
LA RAMS
LA CHARGERS
LV RAIDERS

i am still astonished, sad...

terrible for their fans base

3 franchises...

 

[shmessy]

I was more heartbroken about the strike stealing our shot at winning it all. The team moving was the inevitable and predictable end after that lost postseason, and the subsequent fire sale ending all hope.

I'm sorry, but that was the ugliest and most non-baseball stadium east of the Humphreydome in Minneapolis. The stadia of the late 1960's and 1970's almost ended baseball.

Now, back to football please.

 

[shmessy]

Look, folks, we are only moving closer to the inevitable future of American sports simply being played in television studios in front of corporate oligarchs and their business clients who get tax deductions for spending hundreds of thousands of dollars per seat per game.

I envy the Brits and other countries where the fan feels part of an historically important link to the team.

Thank God for Bob Kraft for twice taking extraordinary measures in the 1990's for extending our time, but who knows what happens after him?

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

What a damn shame .... these owners don't seem to care about tradition or the fans...it's all about money

Feel sorry for the fans

 

[Nikolai]

Moving teams like this gives the NFL a minor league sort of vibe.

 

[shmessy]

Moving teams like this gives the NFL a minor league sort of vibe.

It's all moving towards Arena Football. The new XFL.

 

[Froob]

i still can not believe that in a so fast time we could have
LA RAMS
LA CHARGERS
LV RAIDERS

i am still astonished, sad...

terrible for their fans base

3 franchises...

True...Although the Rams belonged to LA before St. Louis stole them and I guess the Chargers were technically in LA for their first season but it is sad to see.

 

[everlong]

Most people today don't think of the Raiders as a national team but because of their success in the 70's and 80's they are. Their fans travel a lot. I know plenty of fans of the Raiders here in NE who travel to at least one road game per year.

Second, if you've ever spent time in Vegas away from the strip or downtown everybody is from somewhere else. Vegas is already a huge tourist destination and transplants will have family members out when the home team travels there.

Within the division Denver, KC and even SD (LA) are cheap trips to Vegas for games.

I hate the Raiders. 76 was my first year watching football so they were my first hate. Younger fans don't hate them and the Fins the way older fans do. All that said they're the perfect Vegas team. They're going to make the league a lot of money so the owners were never going to protest too hard. Sure a bit for posturing in hopes of a future prod quid quo but that's about it.

 

[italian pat patriot]

I envy the Brits and other countries where the fan feels part of an historically important link to the team.

i loved the soccer here in Italy when it was '70 and '80

after that period not anymore...

too much money...too much tv...people is prefering here too to see soccer on tv comparing going to the stadium...when i was young you should have left home in the morning to take place for a game...now...nah...

but what i find incredible is how much 'easy' seems in actual NFL to leave in a rush from a place to another one...seems that the fan base is 'not existing'...

i am so sorry...a friend of mine is s Charger fan since 35 years...

i could not imagine if something like that happens to me to us with the Patriots...

in 1993 we were so near...
we are 'lucky'...
thanks to Mr Kraft

probably (or surely...) we would have kept too the awesome Pat Patriot...Orthwein changed the logo...

 

[signbabybrady]

Sux to see cities lose teams. But I'd be lying if I said I'm not excited about a road trip to Vegas. Legal prostitution and football is one hell of a combo.