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  1. DaBruinz

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    Just because he doesn't have the TITLE of GM doesn't mean he's not the GM. He does ALL the duties of a GM. And the TEAM can set how the pecking order is.

    How do you know he's not being PAID as a GM already? You don't. So stop pretending like you do because you damn well know that you don't.

    Seriously. You get all over people about making statements that can't be proven and yet that's exactly what you're doing here. You're making all sorts that have no basis in reality.
     
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    I like it. Raise a stink so teams think twice about courting our front office talent in the future.

    And give Nick a raise already.....
     
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    Perfect, now I know how to get in at next year's ring ceremony:

    Hostess: "Good evening, sir. Welcome to the Krafts for tonight's festivities. May I have your name, please?"

    Me: "Yes, thank you. My name is Hypocrite. Spineless Little Back-stabbing Hypocrite."

    Hostess: "Here you are, Mr. Hypocrite. You are at table 20. For the main course will you be having collusion, tampering or fabricated deflation? Tampering? Excellent choice, sir. Enjoy your evening. Next?"
     
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  4. supafly

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    This sounds like a scene in a bad M.Night Shyamalan movie.
     
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  5. KontradictioN

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    First, this statement is assuming a hell of a lot which makes your second paragraph ultimately rich. Secondly, there is literally zero harm in giving him the title. There are no negatives. Only positives. BB will still ultimately have final say in every dealing with the team from the personnel standpoint. If you think there is a negative to a title change, and I’m assuming that you do since you’re arguing so voraciously against it, please name it.

    And you don’t know that he’s already doing all the duties of a GM. That said, you are aware that most people, no matter what they make, enjoy raises, correct? It’s an extrinsic motivator no matter which way you slice it to go along with the intrinsic motivator of a title change.

    Not even remotely close. There are literally zero negatives to what I’m posting. You’re just picking an awfully weird hill to die on. But if this is the hill you want to die on, I’ll be happy to swing the axe.
     
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  6. robertweathers

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    I still don't understand why people insist Nick needs a raise. For all we know he could be making north of $3m annually

    BB knows what Nick is worth. It's not like Nick is in indentured servitude to the NEP.
     
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    1. None of us work in jobs that have tampering rules.

    2. Likely none of us have jobs that pay us $3M/year

    So let’s stop with the empathy angle. Cassario’s situation can’t be compared to our lives. In most issues like this, emotion & empathy should be laid aside when forming an opinion.

    This is really just about facts. Did tampering happen or didn’t it?
     
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  8. PatsFanSince74

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    This is a situation that proves that the old adage, "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying," only applies if you actually have a chance to win something as a result.

    As far as I can see, this entire mess is a losing proposition for the Texans...why does that not surprise me?
     
  9. mike_usagisan

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    I don't think we get this far if Nick didn't tell the Texans he was interested. The last time we had a tampering case, Revis was already out the door to the Jets. We'll see if he can be persuaded to stay, but it might be too late (the Josh case suggests that Bill might be able to persuade Nick to stay).

    If Nick does go, is there a chance that Scott Pioli comes back? He did just leave the Falcons without another job.
     
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    That’s not true. On many teams, the GM is the final word on player personnel but we certainly know on the Patriots he isn’t.
     
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    No, it kinda can’t.

    While there are clearly other people whose opinions and input Belichick values, it cannot be argued that on this team, Bill Belichick has the final say on all player personnel decisions.

    The Patriots are not the only team in the NFL where the HC has that authority, but it is a minority.
     
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    [QUOTE="reamer, post: 5602369, member:17441”]Re: tampering, if the Patriots didn't receive any compensation after the Revis fiasco, then I strongly suspect that nothing will come of this allegation, either. Even if the Texans are found guilty, don't expect much to happen. [/QUOTE]
    Teams do, on rare occasions, get punished for tampering but the aggrieved parties don’t receive compensation.

    However in this case, Caserio is under contract with NE. So it is not impossible to suggest they work out some sort of compensation to release Caserio from his contractual obligations (and drop the tampering accusations while they are at it).
     
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    The rules haven’t changed but I suppose it is possible that Caserio’s contract has. He may have negotiated an out-clause in his last extension giving him the right to leave if he desires.

    I am just spitballing here and, of course, that does beg the question of how other teams could approach him because even with the (hypothetical) out clause, he’s still under contract in NE.
     
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    Not if the result is a $100k fine and give up a 2nd rounder and land a Grade A front office exec with intimate knowledge of all aspects of the greatest NFL franchise and HC in history
     
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    A source told ProFootballTalk the Texans and Patriots could strike a deal for Nick Caserio.
     
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    The "source" is totally spitballing.
     
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    It would be a huge loss no other way to paint it.
    Promote Monty and bring on Pioli as a assistant or a confidant is the best case scenario if we lose Caserio which still sucks no matter the draft pick compensation.
     
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    The "Selection Meeting" is the draft, I'm pretty sure. So I don't believe this rule applies since the alleged tampering happened after the draft ended.
     
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    Doesn't matter. Bullets i and ii are joined with "and", so the rule doesn't apply unless both bullets are true and from everything we know bullet one is not true for Caserio because BB has final say, not Caserio.
     
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