Report: Patriots working to trade Matt Judon to Atlanta (Update: Deal is done)

[Hyped]

Isn't Jennings ahead of Uche

Might be...but no live pass rush yet...

And Jennings is one of our best run stoppers....

 

[Clonamery]

Me not liking the Packer Way.

 

[Since1960]

Just mentioned to my wife that Judon was traded. She asked if he was the one in the red sleeves then followed up with, “he was pretty good when he played”… That sums it up well. Now for the Falcons new QB to stay “upset” about their #1 draft pick and get us close to the 2nd round with our new #3 pick…

 

[Ring 6]

Don’t put words in my mouth. I want them to be a Super Bowl contender again. I don’t want to build the team to be average at best this year, but not really helping to the long term.


Again, this is the first year of a rebuild where the #1 picks for this team may never see the field this season. The Pats are building for the future. Not for the now.

We are going to be a cellar dweller this year if the Pats were active in free agency or not. If they signed Judon or not. Drafting Maye meant this year was always going to be a mulligan year because he needs to develop more before he can play.

I didn’t put weirdos in your mouth you glorified spending years in the basement.

They had 43 million dollars, are you aware how many players you can sign with 43 million dolllars? You could upgrade half the starters and any number of reserves.
They had the ability to fill many holes, and take a step forward to build off of. Instead they tanked.

Giving up a season of your franchise and your players careers so you can draft a couple slots higher is morinic

Kraft will save $100,000,000 with this plan. Thats the real reason, not to pick 3 slots higher.

 

[Rob0729]

They have 50,000,000 of cap unspent.

Let me try to explain this do you can understand.
If you have the most cap room you have the least money paid to your roster. So to catch up to the other teams you have to spend the most cash.
The cash this year is only salary for players under contract but salary plus signing bonus for new players.

If you add up all the money that each team has contracted to pay to players the patriots are dead last.

You have demonstrated you have no idea how the cap works. Most teams with no cap space have QBs making $40 plus million a year and/or WRs making $25-30 million a year and players with mature contracts where their big cap hits start hitting in years three or four of the deal. Players huge bonuses when they sign that are spread out over the life of their contracts and teams structure contracts to make sure the cap hits are larger as the contract goes along since the cap continues to grow.

Until you learn how the cap works, there is no more need to discuss how it does.

 

[TheRainMaker]

When this team is the worst in the league, has the #1 pick, and Bill returns to coach a contender, Mayo will be on the hot seat. Bob will get the bus ready for someone to be thrown under. Don’t believe a word Bobby says about 5 year plan nonsense. He was ready to fire Bill in 2001.

This has been a disaster.

 

[lancerman]

I would hate to be a Steelers fan. They are building their team every year to be competitive for making the wild card. They will never be in position to draft a true franchise QB unless they get lucky and someone falls to the low 20s where they pick every year. They are in an endless doom loop of being average.

Their only hope out of it is if Wilson starts to play like he used to (highly unlikely) or Fields ever lives up to his hype (also highly unlikely).

Yeah. Maybe if this was the Steelers of 7 years ago who had a window I'd change my tune. The Steelers have basically been a perrenial purgatory team because they are good enough to whup the bottomfeeders but aren't relevant against any contenders and are desperately making decisions like we did when we signed Cam Newton to try to luck their way into maybe some magic happening.

Anyways the bottom fell out from under the Patriots last year. There's no denying that this is a rebuild team and that quick fixes are not the answer.

 

[signbabybrady]

I would rather tank than just be perennial borderline playoff teams. That is worse than a couple of awful years to become a contender again. I would hate the Pats to become the post Roethlisberger being healthy Steelers. I think that is purgatory.

After 20 years of the Pats almost always being able to at least pencil in an appearance in the AFCCG every season, I can stomach a could of awful years if the Pats show that they are building something.

I mean if the Pats suck this year after sucking next year and Maye ends up being a dud and they have to start over again in three years, then I will be pissed.

Building is a myth either you have a QB that allows you to contend or you strike some kind of nick foles type magic either way your chances of winning are better if you have a good roster ready for when either occur.

 

[signbabybrady]

Might be...but no live pass rush yet...

And Jennings is one of our best run stoppers....

That's what I mean Jennings is a 3 down player. Uche is a rush specialist.

 

[Real fan 02]

Well ****

Pretty much expected. Bill would have done the same thing.

 

[State]

Oshane Ximines!

 

[Ring 6]

I would hate to be a Steelers fan. They are building their team every year to be competitive for making the wild card. They will never be in position to draft a true franchise QB unless they get lucky and someone falls to the low 20s where they pick every year. They are in an endless doom loop of being average.

Their only hope out of it is if Wilson starts to play like he used to (highly unlikely) or Fields ever lives up to his hype (also highly unlikely).

No, you would rather be the worst team in the league.

What team are you referring to that stunk got a top 3 pick, drafted a qb and went from the bottom to the top? A quick check of recent SB winners comes up empty. The current top contenders? Nope.

I see a whole lot of teams who were competitive for years and finally broke through.

 

[State]

Pretty much expected. Bill would have done the same thing.

Yep. For a round lower.

 

[lancerman]

When this team is the worst in the league, has the #1 pick, and Bill returns to coach a contender, Mayo will be on the hot seat. Bob will get the bus ready for someone to be thrown under.

This has been a disaster.

Bill is never going to coach a contender again lol. If he ever coaches again, he's going to be 73 or older and tasked to to work with one of the mediocre teams that ****canned their coach. And with his age and recent track record, he's going to have a short leash.

And let's be real the disaster is that 95% of the team we will enter into this year with is one that Bill himself built

 

[Rob0729]

I didn’t put weirdos in your mouth you glorified spending years in the basement.

They had 43 million dollars, are you aware how many players you can sign with 43 million dolllars? You could upgrade half the starters and any number of reserves.
They had the ability to fill many holes, and take a step forward to build off of. Instead they tanked.

Giving up a season of your franchise and your players careers so you can draft a couple slots higher is morinic

Kraft will save $100,000,000 with this plan. Thats the real reason, not to pick 3 slots higher.

I am not glorifying spending years in the basement. I am willing to sacrifice the first year of a rebuild (which the Pats are in) to make the team better long term.

There were very few players available in free agency that were in position of needs that would build this team for the future. All the best players available were on defense. And they tried and failed to make a splash with Ridley and Aiyuk.

Again, when you draft a QB with the third pick and he has to sit his rookie year or a large portion of it, you are tanking the season whether you make a splash in free agency or not. I am sure if there were receivers or o-linemen who were impact players available who were young enough to build around, they would have at least kicked the tires on them. There aren’t.

 

[signbabybrady]

Pretty much expected. Bill would have done the same thing.

I wasn't a big fan of when Bill pulled this crap too

 

[Real fan 02]

That's what I mean Jennings is a 3 down player. Uche is a rush specialist.

Uche will have a full time role now..he will need to be an every down player. Judon was such a great person off the field in the same way Lawrence guy was. Sucks to loose those types of men. But it's the NFL and this happens all the time. We still have some young hungry guys and some unproven guys.. oshea Ximmnes.. you can mark my post.. he will be a budding star for the defense!

 

[TheRainMaker]

Bill is never going to coach a contender again lol. If he ever coaches again, he's going to be 73 or older and tasked to to work with one of the mediocre teams that ****canned their coach. And with his age and recent track record, he's going to have a short leash.

And let's be real the disaster is that 95% of the team we will enter into this year with is one that Bill himself built

Cowboys missed an opportunity.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

This blows. Expectations are high for Mr. White. I was hoping to see some form of KW and MJ on the field at the same time this year but that's now not happening....Bet we will get a K/ST or G for the 3rd...Calling it! Hope I am wrong...

 

[Real fan 02]

I wasn't a big fan of when Bill pulled this crap too

Me neither. But you know this was a move thar we all saw coming.. and Bill for sure would have done the same thing. We got a 3rd rounder.. I wish my guy judon nothing but the best.. he's going to a team up and coming with a great owner.