Reiss: Pats should consider 4-3 edge rushers in draft

[Sicilian]

The unfortunate thing about pass rushers is that they are quite pricey to get. Even a situational sub guy is taken high now due to the proliferation of the spread.

This is my biggest problem with using high picks to take situational pass rushers. If they're good at their one job, they're going to demand a salary on the open market that is skewed way higher than their worth to the team. So after using a 1st round pick, you get five years of service and then have to do it all over again. It's tempting to do for the short term, but is exactly the type of thinking that leads to bad teams in the future.

Early picks should be used on 3-down players. Save the 3rd round and beyond for specialists and projects.

 

[JackBauer]

"Elite pass rusher" - A player with more than 10 sacks. The Patriots have had one of these in the last decade.

I admit, I chuckled when it dawned on me who this player was.

 

[patsoxfan]

You seem to have reading comprehension problems, so I'm going to break this down for you.

"Jarvis Green type" - A 285 pound defensive end in the Pats' suckpackages. Has had success rushing the passer in subpackages, while not being a huge liability against the run (in 4-man lines). Basically no ability to drop into coverage. More often than not is not named "Jarvis Green." Posters who choose to ignore this fact tend to start Internet arguments.

"Subpackage" - A defensive formation where there are more than 4 defensive backs on the field. Most often used when there are more than 2 receivers on the field (extra CB or two), when there is a very good TE on the field (extra safety or CB), or in general when the pass is deemed a greater threat than the run.

"4-2-5" - A subpackage that the Patriots use a lot. Somtimes it's a safety, sometimes it's a cornerback, but there's a 5th defensive back on the field. The DEs in this formation drop into coverage far less than the 3-4 OLBs do, so a "Jarvis Green type" (who is not necessarily Jarvis Green) is a good fit.

"Elite pass rusher" - A player with more than 10 sacks. The Patriots have had one of these in the last decade.

"Three" - The number of Super Bowls won by a Patriots team that didn't have a player with 10 sacks on it

"Sub runs" - When the offense rushes and the defense is in a subpackage. The Patriots strugged with this this season. Wilfork said it himself.

"Clay Matthews" - A player who can rush the QB, but SUCKS against the run. Would contribute to the sub run problems, not help solve them.

Don't bother responding. I won't be in this thread again.

Youll be back. Like I said you use more sub packages when you cant rush...... never mind, your right no one needs an elite pass rusher, its just a fad. This D seems fine just like it is. all im saying is they need a hell of a lot more pass rush than they have. Snatchez standing around in the pocket untouched gives me heartburn.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Why? There are some players that fit a 34 in this draft right around where we are picking. Or if BB desires he can move up...or back if he feels his guy is there.

Btw, as much as we play cover 3 and other alignments does it really matter all that much of the weight and height of a player? Unless the personal we have just don't allow the players on the field to get after the QB in a 34, so they purposely change their looks.