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Rapistburger Looking Ahead - Ref Intimidation vs Pats

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Considering how there were several obvious blown calls that went Pittsburgh's way in their 2005 Super Bowl over Seattle, and to a lesser extent (there were bad calls both ways) in their 2008 win over Arizona, neither Roethlisberger nor any other Pittsburgh Steeler is in any position to ever be complaining about referees favoring another team.
 
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one of my personal pet peeves/favorites is that everyone calls the carson palmer/who's the other guy? rule the Tom Brady rule incorrectly.
 
Just in, Wilfork is covering Wallace

welcome to "Wilfork Continent" Benny:singing:
 
I thought you were going to tell me he has been cornering them in the bathroom.
 
Sounds like Ben's overdue to jump on his motorcycle and forget his helmet again.

what do you mean, "overdue"????

sounds to me like he just did.....
 
one of my personal pet peeves/favorites is that everyone calls the carson palmer/who's the other guy? rule the Tom Brady rule incorrectly.


I believe it was the jesters qb (Testaverde) in a game vs Pats earlier in that SB year who first got that Tuck rule call that year.
 

When I was eight years old I pushed my sister down the stairs and blamed it on the dog
 
I believe it was the jesters qb (Testaverde) in a game vs Pats earlier in that SB year who first got that Tuck rule call that year.

he's referring to the "no diving at the qb's legs" rule.
 
The perception that Brady gets favorable treatment from opposing fans, and the media is infuriating to me.

There are metrics out there that are very easily researched that disprove that myth, but they refuse to let a simple thing like facts get in the way of a good witch hunt.

Of course Brady gets favorable treatment, what games do you watch?
Does he get every call, No, but he gets more than most. Superstars get more calls in every single sport. Did you see Revis rape marshall? Do you think Wilson will have been awarded the same luxury?

Brady does not want to be roughed up and Ben is willing to get roughed up some to keep the play alive. allowing his players to break free. They have different styles of playing QB and the teams run totally different Os
 
Of course Brady gets favorable treatment, what games do you watch?
Does he get every call, No, but he gets more than most. Superstars get more calls in every single sport. Did you see Revis rape marshall? Do you think Wilson will have been awarded the same luxury?

Brady does not want to be roughed up and Ben is willing to get roughed up some to keep the play alive. allowing his players to break free. They have different styles of playing QB and the teams run totally different Os
 
I like this reply from the comments section:

Big Bad Ben list of stupid comments:
1. My receivers are short
2. The refs dont see me as marquee
3. I dont like to wear helmet when riding a bike
4. I like'em young and drunk and cornered
5. I won those Super Bowls, not our defense, i will punch you if you dare say it again
 
I believe this article posted a few weeks ago debunks Michael Vick and Ben Roethlesberger's new favorite scapegoat.

"Refs playing Favorites? check the facts"

Refs playing favorites? C'mon, Vick - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN

nice article but what does it really prove?

the real thing that i want to see is call per hits . . . and more preferrably calls per possbile roughing the passer call . . . the pass attempts does not show how many times he had been hit . . .

for example, if two QBs pass the ball and we have the following"

QB A in 100 attempts:

gets hit 2 times and gets one roughing the pass penalty, so he is 1/100 penalties per pass attempt, and his call per hit is 50%


QB B in 100 attempts

gets his 12 times, gets two calls but should of gotten say 4 calls, his hits per attempt is 2/100 but calls per hits is only 16%, (2/12) and it really should of been 4/12 or 25% . . .

So QB B is getting the short end of the stick even tho using the article method calculation he is getting "more" calls at 2 per 100 as oppose to just 1 out of 100, but the reality is he is getting fewer calls than QB A

this why no every stat is a informative as some may think . . .
 
nice article but what does it really prove?

the real thing that i want to see is call per hits . . . and more preferrably calls per possbile roughing the passer call . . . the pass attempts does not show how many times he had been hit . . .

for example, if two QBs pass the ball and we have the following"

QB A in 100 attempts:

gets hit 2 times and gets one roughing the pass penalty, so he is 1/100 penalties per pass attempt, and his call per hit is 50%


QB B in 100 attempts

gets his 12 times, gets two calls but should of gotten say 4 calls, his hits per attempt is 2/100 but calls per hits is only 16%, (2/12) and it really should of been 4/12 or 25% . . .

So QB B is getting the short end of the stick even tho using the article method calculation he is getting "more" calls at 2 per 100 as oppose to just 1 out of 100, but the reality is he is getting fewer calls than QB A

this why no every stat is a informative as some may think . . .

Good point! tnx for the insight.

So you'd need total hits per game and total flags per game to make a fair comparison? or is there any thing else? I don't know where to get those exact statistics, pro-football-reference.com? google mode

It just points out that marquee guys(Brady, Manning etc) aren't as heavily flagged as people think but it misses a big factor.
 
What I find scary about Ben is that some woman out there actually married him despite the well known knowledge of his womanizing exploits..
 
What I find scary about Ben is that some woman out there actually married him despite the well known knowledge of his womanizing exploits..

You're kidding, right? It might take me eight years but I could probably find 102 million reasons........
 
I'd love to see this stat breakdown myself. I've looked but I haven't been able to find anywhere that even lists the stats for Quarterback Hits, let alone something like the number of penalties per game.

Anyone know of where they can be found?

I'd bet my left foot that a comparison of RTP calls for Brady vs hits he takes will be unremarkable except in it being in the middle of the pack.

I find it funny that two of the most dangerous hardest Quarterbacks to tackle (Vick and Rothlesburger) are whining they receive less RTP calls than others.

You think there might be a reason for that?

And wasn't this the RTP call that the previous generation of old-school whiners used as "proof" that the refs are coddling the marquee quarterbacks?

Ngata: I love hitting Brady...he always complains - CBSSports.com

Am I really that much of a homer than I can't look at this hit objectively and say "Yeah, okay. I see it now. You're right. Tom Brady is over-protected"?

Honestly? The best I can do is look at this play and say "Okay, maybe (maybe) it wasn't intentional".

But maybe, like me, the ref's remember Suggs history of bounty talk and hitting like it really is his purpose to inflict bodily damage that has maybe, just maybe lost him some of the benefit of the doubt when it comes to whether to throw a flag or not.

Anyway, I'd love to see some statistics on the number of RTP calls Brady gets per hit.

Since the articles comparing Brady's RTP calls per Pass Attempt do not validate the whiners unproven, blanket statement that Brady receives unfair protection (in the way of RTP calls), they have begun demanding even narrower margins of proof... hence this demand to see how many RTP calls per hit (because, as we've seen calls per throw don't show anything unusual).

And I'm sorry, the burden of proof should be on the idiots making these asinine statements and not on us to disprove them.

Shame it doesn't work that way.
 
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Big Ben is not the brightest bulb. I mean this is a guy who when catching his second rape case showed up in a presser to defend himself looking like this...

 
Pittsburgh Steelers' Ben Roethlisberger says 'marquee' quarterbacks garner more penalty calls - ESPN

Ben is already out there trying to intimidate / pressure the refs to give him calls and not call illegal hits on TB in two weeks. (hopefully that means squeelers have a trap game - )

For the Pats game - I hope it means squat; but the refs have been so schizophrenic this year with their calls (being generous; if I wasn't generous I would say they were steering games/playing favorites) that I dont have much faith anymore that they can't be manipulated.

I normally love it that BB is so non-disclosure /non-descript / deadpan humor usually (injury status etc.). but I wonder sometimes if that isn't a weakness on the ref issue.

ever since Polian started us on this road of changing the rules to suit his team each year; the quality of calls has steadily gone downhill. I think the refs uncertainty of the changing rules just makes them more susceptible to these play-the-media ploys than ever before.

I hope Brady has another 300+ 4 TD game in a blowout Pats win. F big ben. Never liked him and never will. Sex offender.
 
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