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I'm ok with he Cook trade scenario as well. I hated the hurdle in the SB, and the fact that he didn't get down before getting wrecked by Jenkins was just dumb. He's a pro, and he has to know, in that situation, to get down and protect the ball. Three guys wanting to kill him... get down!

 
01 ~ I believe that we face roster peril far in excess of that which is generally perceived, by media and by fans. To wit: Many key players are at or are on the brink of reaching that inflection point between Rookie Contract and Max Contract that forces us ~ or Mad Bill, were he running the team
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~ to face tough, grueling questions, given the constraints of The Infernal Salary Cap, about whether or not each key player is more valuable to the team and its championship quest ~ or not ~ than the 1, 2, or even 3 or 4 key Role Players that we might sign or retain instead.

This. My one disappointment with some of the moves last year and this* is whether they’ve put us in a place to project to the next 3-5 years especially considering, for one reason or another, the disappointments from last years draft. I think we’re at the point where the future is uncertain, particularly in relation to Gronk and Brady. B.B. needs to nail this upcoming draft because his free agent moves appear to be pretty short-term ones and this might be a very different team in three years. Time to prepare now.

* I’m pretty happy with what has happened in free agency in terms of the short-term, I just don’t think they’ve helped much projecting forward.

Concur, Sir. I'm really happy that Mad Bill's been so conservative during what seems to me to've been a particularly rabid Free Agency season...But the future's looking thin. o_O
 
You got rid of Cooks, Dorsett, Britt and Allen. I understand other than Cooks, most of those guys didn’t produce a ton for us as far as catches go last season, but that is still 4 bodies you have to replace. Where are we going to find 4 guys with that much talent that will also be that cheap?

Fair question.

My answer is: I have no interest in building a roster with the approach of replacing guys.

From my perspective, Cooks, Britt, and Dorsett are just guys who can run like Hell.

They're pretty useless ~ so far, anyway ~ when it comes to Moving The Chains, being reliable, and all the other things that win you Championships.

And you already know how I'd replace Allen: Austin Seferian Jenkins.

Britt and Dorsett were just there to step in for Edelman, Hogan, and Mitchell, all'f who should be back...And I have no use for the likes of Brandin Cooks. I prefer 2 Tight End Sets.

And in any case, you know that I replaced'm with Jordy Nelson.
 
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How do you know Britt has an awful work ethic? Kinda hard to say without working with humans if B.B. kept him, I doubt it’s that bad.

Fair response...My answer: he's got a lengthy resume of slacking over the last several years. If he actually makes the team, well, we'll see. But as much as I admire Mad Bill, he's retained some dubious characters, from time to time, including right now.
 
Thanks for the read, Grid. I didn't agree with some of it, but you left a lot to think about that I wouldn't have been aware of, if you hadn't put in the work. I like some of the FA's you are looking at and will be interested in finding out who you like in the draft given we will be at 31 in most rounds.

It took so long to read your tome, I no longer have time to comment on specifics right now except to say I'm glad there is at least one other optimist who is waiting for Nate Ebner to emerge beyond his special teams role. ;)

Hah hah!! Thanks, man.
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Cut James Develin? Nope, nada can't get on that train.

Most of the rest I find intriguing and agree with, especially Cooks.

With Lewis, I'm confused: are you saying we should have let him go, or...?

Was I being abstruse? My apologies. Occupational Hazzard. ;)
 
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You don’t do a ‘reboot season’ without replacing a 41 year old QB

Thanks, bud. Always eager to benefit from your words of wisdom. :rolleyes:

Dump the greatest player in the history of the game? Got it.
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I'll be sure to give your advice all due consideration. ;)
 
Just a few thoughts that I've had about our current off season. Many'f'm'll be about moves that've already been made or could've been made, though some'f'm're about moves that might yet be.

I continue to bite off more than I can chew in the Work/School/Workout/Blog worlds, so I probably will fall short, yet again, of the goal of contributing to the Draft Forum, but for anyone who wants to comment on my draft-inclusive theoretical off season, that's where it'll be, though not until the eve of The Draft and, more likely, not until afterwards!! But in any case, I've gotten a lot more out'f this Site, via y'all contributing your thoughts, than I've given back, for quite a while, now, so I'm redoubling my efforts, as they say, to be less'f a lurker and more'f a contributor. Here's hoping this finds y'all well!!

What follows are some'f my thoughts on our prospective ReBoot Season. They are definitely subject to change and are not intended as a defined blueprint, just yet. And I’ll defer any Draft notions until later on, as my perspective on that beloved field of endeavor is still very transitional, except for the top QuarterBack Prospects. This is about Free Agency:


01 ~ I believe that we face roster peril far in excess of that which is generally perceived, by media and by fans. To wit: Many key players are at or are on the brink of reaching that inflection point between Rookie Contract and Max Contract that forces us ~ or Mad Bill, were he running the team
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~ to face tough, grueling questions, given the constraints of The Infernal Salary Cap, about whether or not each key player is more valuable to the team and its championship quest ~ or not ~ than the 1, 2, or even 3 or 4 key Role Players that we might sign or retain instead.

02 ~ That's tough ~ extremely tough. But it'd be a thousand times tougher if not for the persistently brazen generosity of Tom Brady. How much do you think he would've averaged, the last several years, had he taken his talent on the open market? Even now, going on 41. Were he a Free Agent, with a stated intention of playing for another 4 or 5 years, and exhibiting absolutely no sign whatsoever of slowing down, what do you think he'd get? 35 million? 40 million?

03 ~ Thank God for Tom Brady and his incalculable loyalty and generosity above and beyond his brilliance in realizing that the less he makes, the better his chances of winning it all.


04 ~ According to OverTheCap, we were, when I started writing this and before we made any moves, about $21,000,000 under the Cap, this being on The Ides of March.


05 ~ So I’m looking at Free Agency and possibly Trades with a mind towards freeing up Cap Space, looking at how much Cap Capital we can amass…and then signing Players.


06 ~ My first addition to Cap Space is of course Brandin Cooks. I know that everybody loves that guy and that I’m going to get eviscerated for this, and I do not give a rat’s ass. I lauded Cooks in 2013, and he’s certainly top shelf talent…But I can’t stand’m. I’m a bit’f a braying jackass, myself, so I’ve got nothing against a fellow trying to build his brand, and I’ve got nothing a guy venting in public, per se, but Cooks publicly squawked about his role in New Orleans after a dominant victory, exposing himself, in my eyes, as a guy who doesn’t genuinely care about winning…and his pathetic play in the 2nd Quarter of the Super Bowl, when he easily had the crucial 1st Down, but gave it away to leap in the air like a putz, because he didn’t want to get clobbered when he cut it inside ~ and in so doing, cost us points that would’ve earned us our 6th Super Bowl Championship, for those scoring at home ~ confirmed my impression: He’s a Prima Donna who sells out when we need’m the most. I know that he talks a fine game and everyone loves’m, but I do not. I believe that he’s just been shining it up, to paraphrase Lou Gossett to Richard Gere in An Officer And A Gentleman, and I believe that, as with Randy Moss, his true character will eventually become clear to all. I’d trade’m to the highest bidder, and recoup that 8.4 Million to spend elsewhere. And I’d do so knowing that the market on Players of his skill are going for pretty much twice his 2018 salary. I don’t care. I don’t want this guy on my team, I know damned well he’s gone in a year if I’m running things, anyway ~ this is all an exercise in playing Fantasy General Manager, after all ~ so I’d rather get 2018 Draft Picks than a 2020 Draft Pick whose value is a 3.5 Round Pick at absolute maximum, while spending that 8.4 million on somebody who’ll hopefully think’f his teammates before himself.


07 ~ Cut or trade Kenny Britt. Good God, what a horrible move, picking up that guy. I cannot stand his work ethic. Cooks, at least, has a terrific work ethic. Britt has almost Randy Moss talent, but doesn’t seem to care. That’s $2,000,000 right of the books.


08 ~ Cut or trade Phillip Dorsett. Blech. Zoomer who can’t run routes. All set on that. That’s another $1,600,000 of the books, adding $12,000,000 from WideOuts. Sweet.


09 ~ Probably cut Dwayne Allen. I like the guy, and I’m not 100% sure of this move, because I love’m as a Blocker and I was stunned that he wasn’t more effective as a Receiver. And if he develops as a Receiver, he could become absolutely crucial to our success as a Hybrid who presents more’r less equally effective options in the Run or the Pass…But I’m provisionally gonna cut’m to free up that $5,000,000, as there’re only so many bucks to go around.


10 ~ Cut Jordan Richards. Just on general principles. In fact: cut’m, sign’m back, and cut’m again. ************. I take a back seat to no man in my fawning adoration of William Belichick, but the first thing that I’m gonna do when I’m Emperor of the Universe is to revoke Coach Belichick’s license to draft Defensive Backs in the 2nd Round. That’s $1,000,000.


11 ~ I like Eric Rowe just fine, but I don’t perceive him making the team. $1,000,000 more.


12 ~ OK, that’s a total of just about $40,000,000 in Cap Space to play with. That doesn’t count any changes reconfiguring or extending Brady, Gronkowski, or anyone else might entail. Me, I detest the business of pushing Salary Cap hits down the road, so I wouldn’t do any such thing, but I’m just acknowledging those things…It also doesn’t include the dozen players, all at about $500,000 or so ~ so that’s about another $6,000,000, not including other guys who’re likely to get cut, later ~ that I’ll ignore, in the interest of accounting for Rookie Contracts.


Your analysis of cooks is all wrong.

And to say we lost the Super Bowl because he tried to hop over someone is laughable. We lost the Super Bowl because of one reason: Bill Belichick leaving Malcolm Butler on the bench the entire game
 
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Wow. OTG. Love your writing style.

A few of my counter thoughts:

1. I'm ok with trading Cooks but I would insist on keeping Dorsett if you did so. From watching the all 22 he looks slightly faster on film than Cooks. He's made a few tough contested catches and this will be his first full year in the offensive system. I expect that what we'll get this year from him will be better than last year.

2. Not a disagreement but think or hope Rivers could be the potential Ninko replacement or the Dragon Edge guy.

3. Completely agree with you, as do most, that we need to add some solid vets at midfielder.


Thanks again. Really enjoyed reading that.

Thank you, Brother Tony!! Mucho Scratchy Ass!! :D
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Dorsett is slightly faster than God. He's not my kind of FootBall Player, but I'm certainly not against the guy, by any means, and won't shed a tear if we keep'm. :p
 
I'm ok with he Cook trade scenario as well. I hated the hurdle in the SB, and the fact that he didn't get down before getting wrecked by Jenkins was just dumb. He's a pro, and he has to know, in that situation, to get down and protect the ball. Three guys wanting to kill him... get down!




1. Cooks abused the jags all pro secondary all game long in the afc championship. My how we forget

2. You wanna trade a 24 year old pro bowl level WR whom we just gave up a first and third round pick just a year ago?
 
Thank you, Brother Tony!! Mucho Scratchy Ass!! :D
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Dorsett is slightly faster than God. He's not my kind of FootBall Player, but I'm certainly not against the guy, by any means, and won't shed a tear if we keep'm. :p

We all know..the only type of wide receivers you like are the short, white, slower, agile possession wideouts who love to take big hits over the middle and end up concussed.
 
06 ~ My first addition to Cap Space is of course Brandin Cooks. I know that everybody loves that guy and that I’m going to get eviscerated for this, and I do not give a rat’s ass. I lauded Cooks in 2013, and he’s certainly top shelf talent…But I can’t stand’m. I’m a bit’f a braying jackass, myself, so I’ve got nothing against a fellow trying to build his brand, and I’ve got nothing a guy venting in public, per se, but Cooks publicly squawked about his role in New Orleans after a dominant victory, exposing himself, in my eyes, as a guy who doesn’t genuinely care about winning…and his pathetic play in the 2nd Quarter of the Super Bowl, when he easily had the crucial 1st Down, but gave it away to leap in the air like a putz, because he didn’t want to get clobbered when he cut it inside ~ and in so doing, cost us points that would’ve earned us our 6th Super Bowl Championship, for those scoring at home ~ confirmed my impression: He’s a Prima Donna who sells out when we need’m the most. I know that he talks a fine game and everyone loves’m, but I do not. I believe that he’s just been shining it up, to paraphrase Lou Gossett to Richard Gere in An Officer And A Gentleman, and I believe that, as with Randy Moss, his true character will eventually become clear to all. I’d trade’m to the highest bidder, and recoup that 8.4 Million to spend elsewhere. And I’d do so knowing that the market on Players of his skill are going for pretty much twice his 2018 salary. I don’t care. I don’t want this guy on my team, I know damned well he’s gone in a year if I’m running things, anyway ~ this is all an exercise in playing Fantasy General Manager, after all ~ so I’d rather get 2018 Draft Picks than a 2020 Draft Pick whose value is a 3.5 Round Pick at absolute maximum, while spending that 8.4 million on somebody who’ll hopefully think’f his teammates before himself.

Your analysis of cooks is all wrong.

And to say we lost the Super Bowl because he tried to hop over someone is laughable. We lost the Super Bowl because of one reason: Bill Belichick leaving Malcolm avenger on the bench the entire game

01 ~ You're confused. I didn't say that Cooks cost us the Super Bowl. I said that had he made that play like a man instead of a Prima Donna, we would've probably won the Super Bowl. And that's actually a fact, as difficult as you're finding it to process: a First Down inside the 10, the way were playing on Offense? Almost certainly 7 Points.

Our ending up with 0 kinda destroys your "laughable" argument...which makes your assertion the only laughable part of this discussion, ironically. :)

02 ~ But I don't believe that one play can be said to cost anyone the Super Bowl, which is why I didn't make that statement. As any one of a dozen plays ~ or several dozen ~ with different results would've delivered us victory, it seems pretty foolish ~ and obviously foolish ~ to claim that one decision ~ like benching Butler ~ caused it, and to ignore everything else.

I don't know if I'd call your thinking that "laughable", though...More like: sad. :rolleyes:
 
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06 ~ My first addition to Cap Space is of course Brandin Cooks. I know that everybody loves that guy and that I’m going to get eviscerated for this, and I do not give a rat’s ass. I lauded Cooks in 2013, and he’s certainly top shelf talent…But I can’t stand’m. I’m a bit’f a braying jackass, myself, so I’ve got nothing against a fellow trying to build his brand, and I’ve got nothing a guy venting in public, per se, but Cooks publicly squawked about his role in New Orleans after a dominant victory, exposing himself, in my eyes, as a guy who doesn’t genuinely care about winning…and his pathetic play in the 2nd Quarter of the Super Bowl, when he easily had the crucial 1st Down, but gave it away to leap in the air like a putz, because he didn’t want to get clobbered when he cut it inside ~ and in so doing, cost us points that would’ve earned us our 6th Super Bowl Championship, for those scoring at home ~ confirmed my impression: He’s a Prima Donna who sells out when we need’m the most. I know that he talks a fine game and everyone loves’m, but I do not. I believe that he’s just been shining it up, to paraphrase Lou Gossett to Richard Gere in An Officer And A Gentleman, and I believe that, as with Randy Moss, his true character will eventually become clear to all. I’d trade’m to the highest bidder, and recoup that 8.4 Million to spend elsewhere. And I’d do so knowing that the market on Players of his skill are going for pretty much twice his 2018 salary. I don’t care. I don’t want this guy on my team, I know damned well he’s gone in a year if I’m running things, anyway ~ this is all an exercise in playing Fantasy General Manager, after all ~ so I’d rather get 2018 Draft Picks than a 2020 Draft Pick whose value is a 3.5 Round Pick at absolute maximum, while spending that 8.4 million on somebody who’ll hopefully think’f his teammates before himself.

You lost me when you quoted An Officer and a Gentleman.



For The Win, Brother Tippett!!
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Off The Grid wants Brandin's "DOR".

Damned right I do!!
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Yeah. It’s from the Lifetime Channel, even I’m not that “manly” (at least that’s what mom says).

Heh. An Officer and a Gentleman is hardly "from" The Man Hater's Channel, even if it happens to appear there because there's a romance involved.

Great movie for the guys and the girls.
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Well I'll definitely defer to your judgement. The only reason I thought so is because Rivers has unique speed for his size. He definitely has the potential to play the OLB/DE role in a 3-4 scheme. But you could be right. I often over estimate positional value.
Yeah, coming from a complete lack of actual knowledge, I think of Rivers as a speed/explosion kind of guy in the Rivers/Beasley mode. Right now I don't see him as having enough ass to be a set the edge player. So coming off the ACL, my highest expectation of him for this year is that of a situational LB on passing down.
 
01 ~ You're confused. I didn't say that Cooks cost us the Super Bowl. I said that had he made that play like a man instead of a Prima Donna, we would've probably won the Super Bowl. And that's actually a fact, as difficult as you're finding it to process: a First Down inside the 10, the way were playing on Offense? Almost certainly 7 Points.

Our ending up with 0 kinda destroys your "laughable" argument...which makes your assertion the only laughable part of this discussion, ironically. :)

02 ~ But I don't believe that one play can be said to cost anyone the Super Bowl, which is why I didn't make that statement. As any one of a dozen plays ~ or several dozen ~ with different results would've delivered us victory, it seems pretty foolish ~ and obviously foolish ~ to claim that one decision ~ like benching Butler ~ caused it, and to ignore everything else.

I don't know if I'd call your thinking that "laughable", though...More like: sad. :rolleyes:

You call a 5’8 185lb WR putting his head down and driving into a defender “being a man”...I call it being dumb

Cooks is tiny..he should take as little as hits as possible...

Also find me another WR on the patriots roster who is good enough to abuse all pro bowl CBs like cooks did in afc championship ...without cooks we don’t come close to winning that game

Cooks is really young has huge upside and Proven production in our complicated offense...why would you want to trade him?

Oh right you prefer the short slow possession guy who takes the big hit over the middle because he shows he’s “tough enough for Boston fans!”
 
Thanks, bud. Always eager to benefit from your words of wisdom. :rolleyes:

Dump the greatest player in the history of the game? Got it.
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I'll be sure to give your advice all due consideration. ;)


if you took a moment to comprehend the bigger point that continue to delve in your bullsh.t dialogue:

YOU DON'T DO REBOOT SEASONS WITH A 41 YEAR OLD QB

you're not going to waste a single season with a guy that old.........wake up a think for a change
 
1. Cooks abused the jags all pro secondary all game long in the afc championship. My how we forget

2. You wanna trade a 24 year old pro bowl level WR whom we just gave up a first and third round pick just a year ago?

You're gonna pay him WR #1 money?
 
I hereby nominate this thread's title for 2018 "Best Of" consideration.
 
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