Patriots Pregame Thread Pre-Game - Divisional Round Texans at Patriots

[PatsFan2]

Rightfully so.
It's the most basic scheme I've seen at the NFL level in the last 30 years. Your high school runs a more complicated offense. Van Pelt's offense was more complicated.

Inside zone, Bootleg half-field reads, Scramble around PI Bait. That's the entirety of the Texans offense.

Tommy is Houston's Safeties better than D James??

 

[PatsFan2]

Wouldn't it be something if Maye have close to 300yds against them?? They can just drop the MVP off at Gillette.

 

[upstater1]

The last time I checked the forecast (3.5 seconds ago) predicts a high of 35 and 34 by kickoff, with temperatures dropping steadily to 28 by games end.

I used accuweather. They had different numbers.

 

[DaBruinz]

The Pundits ball-washing of Houston has started in Grandiose fashion.

 

[Thelonious]

I’m a little concerned that we won’t be able to run on them and will become one dimensional… And if our offensive line cannot somehow improve against the rush, obviously it will effect how fast Drake is going to have to get the ball out….. going to be a tough game for sure

Yep, and a short passing game to compensate for a weak O-line plays into a strength - speed, tackling, good secondary play against short passes - of their D.

 

[Ring 6]

IF we are doing that we'll get in trouble on both sides of the ball. I get your point A.J. we don't want to play tentative: that's not what got us here: we have to take our shots when we have them. Every Defense mix coverages and guys have to take a breather at times. That's when you go for the kill shot.

We need to run our offense. Our offense is based upon the ball and decision making behind in Drake Mayes hands, and running just enough to keep defenses from selling out against the pass.
Maye isn’t throwing deep every play, but his strong decision making leads to us often throwing 20 yard seam patterns on 1st or 2nd and 5-10 rather than dunking and dunking and playing to convert 3rd down and 4.
Long sustained drives as a game plan is a loser mentality and loser result. Long sustained drives occur organically, not by strategizing that you want to run an offense that can’t get chunk plays and need to convert 7 3rd downs to score. They occur when you are ahead and the defense can’t stop your running game. We will not run the ball consistently well against this defense to have any hope of that being a good game plan.
Once we open up the defense with down the field throws, we can have success in the running game. But success in the running game isn’t a ticket to playing for 3rd and short, it’s a ticket to rip big plays in the passing game.
We need to be who we are and take advantage of our strengths, not play scared. And yes Maye should run whenever he has the chance, he is a weapon.

 

[Ring 6]

The Pundits ball-washing of Houston has started in Grandiose fashion.

Well they can’t admit Pittsburgh and Rodgers suck, so Houston must be a juggernaut.

 

[DaBruinz]

Wouldn't it be something if Maye have close to 300yds against them?? They can just drop the MVP off at Gillette.

Would you STOP with the MVP crap. Maye doesn't care about it. Neither should you. When was the last time the MVP WON the SB??

What matters is winning the game. Period.

 

[VrabelJr]

Houston was happy to give up the big play risk because the Steelers are the worst big play offense in the entire league. I wouldn’t expect them to repeat that against us.

 

[Ring 6]

Rightfully so.
It's the most basic scheme I've seen at the NFL level in the last 30 years. Your high school runs a more complicated offense. Van Pelt's offense was more complicated.

Inside zone, Bootleg half-field reads, Scramble around PI Bait. That's the entirety of the Texans offense.

Well let’s not get carried away. lol

 

[Ring 6]

Wouldn't it be something if Maye have close to 300yds against them?? They can just drop the MVP off at Gillette.

The only reason he won’t is if we are way ahead early and stop throwing.

 

[upstater1]

Tommy is Houston's Safeties better than D James??

I would say definitely yes. I'd take Pitre and Bullock over Derwin James, anyday.

James is a big playmaker but he's limited. He's more of a safety LB hybrid.

Whereas Bullock can cover, and even though Pitre came in as a safety, he does play slot CB and covers TEs.

The Texans essentially play 3 safeties, and the 3rd safety is Myles Bryant. SO...

Attack Myles Bryant in the middle.

Lassiter and Stingley guard the boundaries.

Pitre locks down TEs and slot guys.

Your 3rd receiver needs to attack Myles Bryant and avoid Bullock.

 

[DaBruinz]

Twin I have give Texans respect.. Campbell has a tough job.. Josh is going to have to double Anderson.. Houston front is just to dangerous.. they have no weaknesses in thier front 7..

On offense the WR Higgins is good.. I'm praying gonzo can go.. this is going to be a FG game no TDs...

Their LBs are the "weak link". Their front 4 cover up for a lot..

 

[Rob0729]

Houston was happy to give up the big play risk because the Steelers are the worst big play offense in the entire league. I wouldn’t expect them to repeat that against us.

If you look at the videos I posted from last night, each time the receiver had someone trying to cover them, but the defender was beat.

 

[Triumph]

Belichick got fired, what’s your point?

Maye absolutely did not have a terrible night. I just showed you his serving half. Was that terrible? And they WON

The objective is to score points.
Trying to do what you don’t do well because you are afraid doesn’t work.

No one said anything about “throwing deep all the time”.
We need to run our offense, which involves playing for chunk plays rather than moving the sticks and relying on 5-7 3rd down conversions in a drive in order to score and not being afraid of 3rd and long, which we are by far the best team in the league at.

Your plan will lead to a lot of punts and the defense spending all day on the field.

Ridiculous even for you.

BB went on to HC 20 plus years and won 5 more Super Bowls.

Martz was really fired unlike the crack pipe claims that Hollins got McDaniels fired.

 

[DaBruinz]

Rams, Bucs, Jags, Seahawks, Broncos all beat the Texans.

Reading this is like we are playing the 85 Bears, 2000 Ravens or 2002 Bucs. I don’t think they are on that level. You can score points on them.

You have to go look at who the Texans were missing when those games occurred.

 

[DaBruinz]

Further detail, Shawn Smith called the NE-Gints game (highlite in yellow),
no Houston games. [edit: Also did NOT work WC weekend.]

Very few penalties in our game. Mostly procedural (delay, false start etc). Only 1 pass type call ( an illegal contact on NYG).

Overall, I think we got a good ref draw. No telling what kind of GoToHell sycophants are buried in the ‘all-star’ crew though. So I’ll keep some skepticism til proof on the field.

Of note: He is not working with the same crew that called that game. The Play-off crews are the "All-Star" teams of officials. You have to break it down further into what he, himself, was responsible for vs. what the other officials were responsible for.

 

[Ring 6]

Ridiculous even for you.

BB went on to HC 20 plus years and won 5 more Super Bowls.

Martz was really fired unlike the crack pipe claims that Hollins got McDaniels fired.

Martz was fired 4 years after his last SB. BB was fired 5 years after his last SB.
For you to imply Martz was fired because of that Sb is either stupid, disingenuous or both.

McDaniels really was fired too. And the lack of an effective passing game ( predicated by the weak production he got by playing a poor wr as his #2) had a lot to do with it. That is a fact.

 

[PatsFan2]

I would say definitely yes. I'd take Pitre and Bullock over Derwin James, anyday.

James is a big playmaker but he's limited. He's more of a safety LB hybrid.

Whereas Bullock can cover, and even though Pitre came in as a safety, he does play slot CB and covers TEs.

The Texans essentially play 3 safeties, and the 3rd safety is Myles Bryant. SO...

Attack Myles Bryant in the middle.

Lassiter and Stingley guard the boundaries.

Pitre locks down TEs and slot guys.

Your 3rd receiver needs to attack Myles Bryant and avoid Bullock.

I just got the Big one... do they have any weakness on D??

 

[Real fan 02]

Their LBs are the "weak link". Their front 4 cover up for a lot..

Al-Shakir is a pro bowler this year.