Pre-draft contacts (2009 Edition)

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: Updated list - 4/7/09

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/231297-english-thought.html#post1356243

Head English on Movin the Chains today. Sounded like a bright guy, graduated from college already Liberal Arts. Visited with the Pats, didn't meet BB was with the LB coach, went over Pats D saw how he retained info, Denver Az a couple of other teams showing interest.

He is on my binky list w Barwin & S Smith. I could see taking English & Barwin. Would make me very happy.

 

[Seneschal2]

Updated list - 4/24/09

QB - (8)
WR - (11)
RB - (6)
FB - (3)
TE - (5)
OL - (13)
DL - (15)
DE/OLB - (7)
LB - (13)
CB - (21)
S - (10)
P - (2)
K - (1)

115 prospects overall
28 of 30 official visits

Legend
PW - Private workout to be held
AW - Attended workout
V - Team is bringing in player to team facilities
I - Interviewed at Combine or various All Star games
APD - Attended pro day
RI - Rumored interest
MV -Team took prospect out, worked out individually at pro day, or miscellaneous visit

QB Jason Boltus I RI
QB Rhett Bomar PW
QB Brian Hoyer PW
QB Stephen McGee V
QB/TE Zach Miller PW (V?)
QB Mike Teel PW
QB Pat White PW V
QB/WR Julian Edelman AW

WR Tyree Barnes AW
WR Brooks Foster V
WR Juaquin Iglesias I
WR Aaron Kelly I
WR Johnny Knox PW V
WR Mohamed Massaquoi PW APD
WR Kenny McKinley PW
WR Kevin Ogletree PW
WR Brandon Tate V
WR Mike Thomas PW
WR Derrick Williams I PW

RB Andre Brown PW APD I V
RB Rashad Jennings I PW APD
RB Devin Moore PW
RB Ernest Robinson AW
RB Bernard Scott PW
RB Shun WhiteAW

FB Brock Bolen RI
FB Tony Fiammetta PW
FB Eric Kettani AW

TE Robbie Agnone RI
TE Cornelius Ingram PW (Belichick)
TE Shawn Nelson V
TE Fendi Onobun PW
TE McKenna "Bear" Pascoe V

OL Antoine Caldwell I PW
OL Robert Brewster PW RI
OL Dan Gay RI
OL T.J. Lang PW (Dante)
OL Lawrence Lovell PW
OL Alex Mack I
OL Jamon Meredith PW
OL Rich Ohrnberger V
OL Andre Smith V
OL Justin Sorensen PW
OL Phil Trautwein PW (Dante)
OL Jason Watkins PW (Dante)
OL Eric Wood AW APD (attended by Dante)

DL Robert Ayers I V
DL Chris Baker PW
DL Ron Brace AW
DL Rulon Davis CI
DL Alex Field PW
DL Josh Gaines RI MV
DL Jarron Gilbert PW V
DL Adrian Grady V
DL Lonnie Harvey RI
DL Terrence Knighton V PW
DL Sammie Lee Hill MV
DL Evander Hood V
DL Alex Magee I
DL Sen'Derrick Marks PW
DL B.J. Raji I

DE/OLB Connor Barwin I PW V
DE/OLB Cody Brown PW APD (chalk talk w/ Belichick)
DE/OLB Everett Brown PW
DE/OLB Larry English PW V
DE/OLB Sherman Logan PW
DE/OLB Henry Melton PW
DE/OLB Lawrence Sidbury V

LB Russell Allen RI
LB Stanley Arnoux PW
LB Jasper BrinkleyI
LB Brian Cushing I
LB Moise Fokou I PW
LB Zach Follett I
LB Kevin Malast PW
LB Clay Matthews I
LB Rey Maualuga I RI
LB Tyrone McKenzie I PW V
LB Derek Nicholson PW
LB Dan Skuta RI
LB Jason Williams PW APD V

CB Vince Anderson RI PW
CB Kevin Barnes PW
CB Joe Burnett PW (by Belichick)
CB Don Carey PW I
CB Tony Carter V
CB Derek Cox PW
CB Vontae Davis V
CB Bradley Fletcher PW
CB Macho Harris I
CB/S Malcom Jenkins V
CB Terrail Lambert PW
CB Ellis Lankster I
CB Keenan Lewis I
CB Jamar Love PW
CB Brice McCain PW
CB Captain Munnerlyn PW
CB/S Glover Quin PW
CB Alphonso Smith V
CB Greg Toler PW
CB Terrail Lambert PW
CB/S Brandon Underwood PW

S Patrick Chung V
S Chris Clemons PW V
S Dahna Deleston I
S Louis Delmas I V
S Michael Hamlin APD
S Rashad Johnson I
S [SIZE=-2]Darcel McBath AW ([/SIZE][SIZE=-2]DB coach Josh Boyer)[/SIZE]
S William Moore V
S Chip Vaughn PW
S/LB Nic Harris I

P Kevin Huber PW
P Jake Richardson PW

K Pat McAfee RI

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: Updated list - 4/7/09

Pryor ready to put heat on | courier-journal.com | The Courier-Journal

The NFL draft dream scenario for Myron Pryor isn't unreasonable.

The former University of Kentucky defensive tackle and Eastern High School graduate would love to go in the third round and to a city with decent weather.

Considering the list of teams that have expressed the most interest in him -- the Green Bay Packers, Chicago Bears, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Buffalo Bills, Pittsburgh Steelers and San Francisco 49ers -- Pryor might be out of luck.

"I would prefer a warm-weather climate or maybe like here, just as long as it's not too cold," the 6-foot-1 319-pounder said.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: Updated list - 4/7/09

Terrance Taylor tackles NFL head-on | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

Terrance Taylor has never backed down from a challenge, and the former U-M defensive tackle from Muskegon didn't in his individual interviews with NFL teams.

"When I talk to teams, I ask them where I fit in their defense and a lot of teams want me and say I can fit into the 3-4 defense and play nose guard," he said this week.
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Taylor is fighting his lack of size, measuring at 6 foot at the NFL Combine, but is strong, having benched 225 pounds 37 times. He's had workouts with the New England Patriots and Detroit Lions plus conversations with several other teams.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Terrance Taylor tackles NFL head-on | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

If Taylor had played last season like he did in his junior season, he would be ranked much higher.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: Updated list - 4/24/09

Beautiful night for a spring game… | Kent State Sports

AN INTERESTING NOTE … The New England Patriots were in Kent yesterday to work out KSU senior wrestler Jermail Porter. I’ve heard from some people who watched the workout, and they say he did extremely well. That would be something if he follows Antonio Gates and gives KSU two non-football alumni in the pro ranks.

 

[alvinnf]

I just wanted to say that I love this thread most of all, so thank you. Also It's funny but they showed little interest in all three potential 1st rounder LB's from USC, that struck me as odd...

 

[alvinnf]

Also, after looking at the list S seems to be a priority. I'd be shocked if they did'nt take one by the end of round two....

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Here are a few videos of Jermail Porter: flowrestling.org/videos/coverage/athlete/234260/1849-jermail-porter-sr

Looks like he moves extremely well for a big guy (6'7, 285). Are we considering him as an offensive lineman, defensive lineman, or outside linebacker? Looks like he has the fluidity and power for either one. Intriguing guy, for sure.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Here are a few videos of Jermail Porter: flowrestling.org/videos/coverage/athlete/234260/1849-jermail-porter-sr

Looks like he moves extremely well for a big guy (6'7, 285). Are we considering him as an offensive lineman, defensive lineman, or outside linebacker? Looks like he has the fluidity and power for either one. Intriguing guy, for sure.

Very intriguing,very raw.

Does anybody have any video of the basketball player from Arizona they worked out?

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Very intriguing,very raw.

Does anybody have any video of the basketball player from Arizona they worked out?

No, but I'd love to see him in action. I assume they'd try him at TE?

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Here are a few videos of Jermail Porter: flowrestling.org/videos/coverage/athlete/234260/1849-jermail-porter-sr

Looks like he moves extremely well for a big guy (6'7, 285). Are we considering him as an offensive lineman, defensive lineman, or outside linebacker? Looks like he has the fluidity and power for either one. Intriguing guy, for sure.

He looks like a 3-4 DE or a RT, he's not an OLB.

 

[BritPat]

Absolutely fantastic work dudes.

Looking at the prospects we've worked out and who have visited, and coupled with their potential draft grades, it seems it will be a defense heavy draft (again) with us potentially targeting DE/OLB, S and CB on Day 1, and LB, DL, OT, WR, TE and QB on day two.

I say we go DE/OLB in round one, S and CB in round two with any potential value pick to consider (Knowshon Moreno dropping to round two for example).

Oh, and it's only 114 prospects by the way you have Terrail Lambert listed twice

 

[Seneschal2]

Updated list - Draft Day (4/25/09)

QB - (8)
WR - (11)
RB - (6)
FB - (3)
TE - (5)
OL - (14)
DL - (17)
DE/OLB - (7)
LB - (13)
CB - (20)
S - (10)
P - (2)
K - (1)

117 prospects overall
28 of 30 official visits

Legend
PW - Private workout to be held
AW - Attended workout
V - Team is bringing in player to team facilities
I - Interviewed at Combine or various All Star games
APD - Attended pro day
RI - Rumored interest
MV -Team took prospect out, worked out individually at pro day, or miscellaneous visit

QB Jason Boltus I RI
QB Rhett Bomar PW
QB Brian Hoyer PW
QB Stephen McGee V
QB/TE Zach Miller PW (V?)
QB Mike Teel PW
QB Pat White PW V
QB/WR Julian Edelman AW

WR Tyree Barnes AW
WR Brooks Foster V
WR Juaquin Iglesias I
WR Aaron Kelly I
WR Johnny Knox PW V
WR Mohamed Massaquoi PW APD
WR Kenny McKinley PW
WR Kevin Ogletree PW
WR Brandon Tate V
WR Mike Thomas PW
WR Derrick Williams I PW

RB Andre Brown PW APD I V
RB Rashad Jennings I PW APD
RB Devin Moore PW
RB Ernest Robinson AW
RB Bernard Scott PW
RB Shun WhiteAW

FB Brock Bolen RI
FB Tony Fiammetta PW
FB Eric Kettani AW

TE Robbie Agnone RI
TE Cornelius Ingram PW (Belichick)
TE Shawn Nelson V
TE Fendi Onobun PW
TE McKenna "Bear" Pascoe V

OL Antoine Caldwell I PW
OL Robert Brewster PW RI
OL Dan Gay RI
OL T.J. Lang PW (Dante)
OL Lawrence Lovell PW
OL Alex Mack I
OL Jamon Meredith PW
OL Rich Ohrnberger V
OL Jermail Porter PW
OL Andre Smith V
OL Justin Sorensen PW
OL Phil Trautwein PW (Dante)
OL Jason Watkins PW (Dante)
OL Eric Wood AW APD (attended by Dante)

DL Robert Ayers I V
DL Chris Baker PW
DL Ron Brace AW
DL Rulon Davis CI
DL Alex Field PW
DL Josh Gaines RI MV
DL Jarron Gilbert PW V
DL Adrian Grady V
DL Lonnie Harvey RI
DL Terrence Knighton V PW
DL Sammie Lee Hill MV
DL Evander Hood V
DL Alex Magee I
DL Sen'Derrick Marks PW
DL Myron Pryor RI
DL B.J. Raji I
DL Terrance Taylor PW

DE/OLB Connor Barwin I PW V
DE/OLB Cody Brown PW APD (chalk talk w/ Belichick)
DE/OLB Everett Brown PW
DE/OLB Larry English PW V
DE/OLB Sherman Logan PW
DE/OLB Henry Melton PW
DE/OLB Lawrence Sidbury V

LB Russell Allen RI
LB Stanley Arnoux PW
LB Jasper BrinkleyI
LB Brian Cushing I
LB Moise Fokou I PW
LB Zach Follett I
LB Kevin Malast PW
LB Clay Matthews I
LB Rey Maualuga I RI
LB Tyrone McKenzie I PW V
LB Derek Nicholson PW
LB Dan Skuta RI
LB Jason Williams PW APD V

CB Vince Anderson RI PW
CB Kevin Barnes PW
CB Joe Burnett PW (by Belichick)
CB Don Carey PW I
CB Tony Carter V
CB Derek Cox PW
CB Vontae Davis V
CB Bradley Fletcher PW
CB Macho Harris I
CB/S Malcom Jenkins V
CB Terrail Lambert PW
CB Ellis Lankster I
CB Keenan Lewis I
CB Jamar Love PW
CB Brice McCain PW
CB Captain Munnerlyn PW
CB/S Glover Quin PW
CB Alphonso Smith V
CB Greg Toler PW
CB/S Brandon Underwood PW

S Patrick Chung V
S Chris Clemons PW V
S Dahna Deleston I
S Louis Delmas I V
S Michael Hamlin APD
S Rashad Johnson I
S [SIZE=-2]Darcel McBath AW ([/SIZE][SIZE=-2]DB coach Josh Boyer)[/SIZE]
S William Moore V
S Chip Vaughn PW
S/LB Nic Harris I

P Kevin Huber PW
P Jake Richardson PW

K Pat McAfee RI

 

[sg14]

Re: Updated list - Draft Day (4/25/09)

I tried to boldify the ones we picked, did noy see CB Butler plus others

Seneschal should get all the credit,,,

QB - (8)
WR - (11)
RB - (6)
FB - (3)
TE - (5)
OL - (14)
DL - (17)
DE/OLB - (7)
LB - (13)
CB - (20)
S - (10)
P - (2)
K - (1)

117 prospects overall
28 of 30 official visits

Legend
PW - Private workout to be held
AW - Attended workout
V - Team is bringing in player to team facilities
I - Interviewed at Combine or various All Star games
APD - Attended pro day
RI - Rumored interest
MV -Team took prospect out, worked out individually at pro day, or miscellaneous visit

QB Jason Boltus I RI
QB Rhett Bomar PW
QB Brian Hoyer PW
QB Stephen McGee V
QB/TE Zach Miller PW (V?)
QB Mike Teel PW
QB Pat White PW V
QB/WR Julian Edelman AW

WR Tyree Barnes AW
WR Brooks Foster V
WR Juaquin Iglesias I
WR Aaron Kelly I
WR Johnny Knox PW V
WR Mohamed Massaquoi PW APD
WR Kenny McKinley PW
WR Kevin Ogletree PW
WR Brandon Tate V
WR Mike Thomas PW
WR Derrick Williams I PW

RB Andre Brown PW APD I V
RB Rashad Jennings I PW APD
RB Devin Moore PW
RB Ernest Robinson AW
RB Bernard Scott PW
RB Shun WhiteAW

FB Brock Bolen RI
FB Tony Fiammetta PW
FB Eric Kettani AW

TE Robbie Agnone RI
TE Cornelius Ingram PW (Belichick)
TE Shawn Nelson V
TE Fendi Onobun PW
TE McKenna "Bear" Pascoe V

OL Antoine Caldwell I PW
OL Robert Brewster PW RI
OL Dan Gay RI
OL T.J. Lang PW (Dante)
OL Lawrence Lovell PW
OL Alex Mack I
OL Jamon Meredith PW
OL Rich Ohrnberger V
OL Jermail Porter PW
OL Andre Smith V
OL Justin Sorensen PW
OL Phil Trautwein PW (Dante)
OL Jason Watkins PW (Dante)
OL Eric Wood AW APD (attended by Dante)

DL Robert Ayers I V
DL Chris Baker PW
DL Ron Brace AW
DL Rulon Davis CI
DL Alex Field PW
DL Josh Gaines RI MV
DL Jarron Gilbert PW V
DL Adrian Grady V
DL Lonnie Harvey RI
DL Terrence Knighton V PW
DL Sammie Lee Hill MV
DL Evander Hood V
DL Alex Magee I
DL Sen'Derrick Marks PW
DL Myron Pryor RI
DL B.J. Raji I
DL Terrance Taylor PW

DE/OLB Connor Barwin I PW V
DE/OLB Cody Brown PW APD (chalk talk w/ Belichick)
DE/OLB Everett Brown PW
DE/OLB Larry English PW V
DE/OLB Sherman Logan PW
DE/OLB Henry Melton PW
DE/OLB Lawrence Sidbury V

LB Russell Allen RI
LB Stanley Arnoux PW
LB Jasper BrinkleyI
LB Brian Cushing I
LB Moise Fokou I PW
LB Zach Follett I
LB Kevin Malast PW
LB Clay Matthews I
LB Rey Maualuga I RI
LB Tyrone McKenzie I PW V
LB Derek Nicholson PW
LB Dan Skuta RI
LB Jason Williams PW APD V

CB Vince Anderson RI PW
CB Kevin Barnes PW
CB Joe Burnett PW (by Belichick)
CB Don Carey PW I
CB Tony Carter V
CB Derek Cox PW
CB Vontae Davis V
CB Bradley Fletcher PW
CB Macho Harris I
CB/S Malcom Jenkins V
CB Terrail Lambert PW
CB Ellis Lankster I
CB Keenan Lewis I
CB Jamar Love PW
CB Brice McCain PW
CB Captain Munnerlyn PW
CB/S Glover Quin PW
CB Alphonso Smith V
CB Greg Toler PW
CB/S Brandon Underwood PW

S Patrick Chung V
S Chris Clemons PW V
S Dahna Deleston I
S Louis Delmas I V
S Michael Hamlin APD
S Rashad Johnson I
S [SIZE=-2]Darcel McBath AW ([/SIZE][SIZE=-2]DB coach Josh Boyer)[/SIZE]
S William Moore V
S Chip Vaughn PW
S/LB Nic Harris I

P Kevin Huber PW
P Jake Richardson PW

K Pat McAfee RI

 

[Patriot Missile]

No Sebastian Vollmer on the list. I'd like to hear what their take on this guy was from the get go.

 

[Urgent]

Note that Caserio specifically stated in his talk at Gillette that the Pats had 10 of 12 draft selections in for visits or private workouts.

As furiously as this was followed, only some were noted.

Chung - Visit
Brace (attended workout)
Butler (attended Pro Day)
Vollmer
Tate - Visit
McKenzie - Private Workout
Ohrenberger - Visit
Bussey
Ingram
Pryor (rumored interest)
Edelman (attended workout)
Richard

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Note that Caserio specifically stated in his talk at Gillette that the Pats had 10 of 12 draft selections in for visits or private workouts.

As furiously as this was followed, only some were noted.

Chung - Visit
Brace (attended workout)
Butler (attended Pro Day)
Vollmer
Tate - Visit
McKenzie - Private Workout
Ohrenberger - Visit
Bussey
Ingram
Pryor (rumored interest)
Edelman (attended workout)
Richard

What is your point?

 

[Urgent]

I noted that Caserio said specifically that the Pats held private work-outs or Gillette visits with 10 of the drafted players.

News reports basically only had four.
Chung, Tate, Ohrenberger, McKenzie.

There were three other notes that Pats coaches attended work-outs (not that private work-outs were held.)

So, on the one hand, you can narrow down the Pats board by looking at visits and private workouts, as this list does. That makes this type of list very interesting prior to the draft. Unfortunately, only about half of those visits, apparently, are published.

 

[VJCPatriot]

BB also went personally to the Uconn workout to see their prospects, so that explains Darius Butler. The Pats actually drafted several of the players that have come in for visits. Chung, Tate, Mckenzie, Ohrnberger etc. So I think that the 'smoke screen' theory really doesn't have a lot of weight. Time and limited visits allotted to teams are too precious to waste on players that the Pats aren't interested in evaluating a little more closely.