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What I'm failing to understand is all this talk abt stealing signals?

To me audio is the key. Is there any audio of people talking abt plays etc.

There just aren't many signals anymore & you can see all that from the A22 or even some broadcast that's lucky enough to catch it.

Imo it will be more then obvious what our intent was from watching w/e footage there is.
Wrote this last, genuinely asking. Been in work since 630. Haven't had much time to look anywhere or get much info.

Really interested if anything abt "signals" has come out or any light shed on that.

This ain't college. Not the 90's were subs are running out on the field w given plays to let everyone in the huddle know what's happening lol.
 


This makes me feel little bit better.

There is no way that BB had anything to do with this, in my opinion. If pink stripes were involved they would never make it that obvious. It's 2020, there are cameras that exist which allow for surreptitious recording. I can't imagine that they would be so dumb as to try to pull anything like this off in plain sight. Let's see what's on the tape. IF it is eight minutes of focusing only on coaching signals that would be suspicious, very suspicious. My hope is that it is a few minutes of scanning the sideline followed by several minutes of filming the cans and booties of the cheerleaders.

If that guy is wearing a Bruins jersey he obviously knows the spygate history and it is incredible that that person or the entire crew would be so dumb. One question I have is....where the hell was the Advanced scout? Was he still in the press box or did he go watch the game from the stands? You would think if he was present he would speak up and say "what the f*ck are you doing? Put the camera down". You would also think that the camera crew would introduce themselves or announce what they were doing to the other individuals in the press box. Did the Bruins fan camera guy just sit down in the front row end start filming, without saying a word to anyone else? The whole thing is bizarre. And very unfortunate.

What's also not clear to me is whether they were taping for eight minutes and then stopped on their own or whether they were taping for eight minutes and the bengals allowed it to happen to document it using their own videographer and then finally stepped in.

The fact that the videographer REPORTEDLY said something to the effect of "I'll just erase the video and we can forget about this. deal?" makes me a bit nervous. You would think that the best case reaction would be "shoot, I apologize, I didn’t realize I was not allowed to film the sidelines. I was not filming anything specific, just trying to get some additional footage, take a look for yourselves…". Or maybe he wanted to erase it because he was zooming in on the cheerleaders.
 
Team source desperate to salvage the situation or a league source because there’s a big difference.

Didn’t say. By the wording my guess is source close to the team.
 
I thought this was a non story and nothing illegal was done, now I am hearing that league is deciding if they are going to punish the Pats ! I guess that means our 1st pick ????
 
I thought this was a non story and nothing illegal was done, now I am hearing that league is deciding if they are going to punish the

there will be some penalty based on the admission of guilt yesterday by the team.
 
BB: "Rules are for suckers. Bwahaha"

This story makes the wait for the inevitable slaughter of the Red Rifle led bengals more tolerable. This has been a humorous thread.
 
This sort of stuff right here is what I was responding to when I said if the only defense you can come up with is some wild conspiracy theory, that's not good. You might as well just go with Mark Fuhrman planted the tape.

Hey, until the investigation is completed, your BS hyperbole is crap. If indeed it was a contract videographer, this theory is entirely plausible.
 
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Alright, alright. That's what I'm talkin' about!
Now everyone give it up for the teams playin' here
The Browns and the Bengals!
A toast to the Browns!
(To the Browns! To the Browns! To the Browns!)
To the Stripes!
(To the Stripes! To the Stripes! To the Stripes!)
Two weak sisters...
Of Baltimore! Of Baltimore! Of Baltimore!
Who always draws you *** off side!
(Drawn off-side! Drawn off-side!)
To New England!
(To the Pats! To the Revolution!)
And the model we provide
(Provide, to provide)
And may you one day
(One day...)
Be Satisfied
Rewind– Rewind–
(...)
Rewind– Rewind–
I remember that year, I just might disappear that year from from all my tapes
I remember Mangina tryin' a make a play, where is he these days?
I remember assistants' names, they're all named Matt
"New kicks, might want a raise"
But I'll be damned if the NFL gets another dime of my pay
League has never been the same
Destroying evidence once New England was FRAMe-d
And camera placement was the name of the game
Set Goodell aflame, Go to hell, so lame
This is not the game
"You strike me as a commish who has never been satisfied."
"I'm sure I don't know what you mean. You forget yourself."
"You're a JETE. You're never satisfied."
"Is that right?"
"You will never be satisfied."
"My name is Goodell, a JETS file clerk."
"William Belichick."
"Where's your ****in neck?"
"Unimportant. There's a million rings I haven't won but
Just you wait, just you wait..."
So so so—
So this is what it feels like to match wits
with JEST beneath your level? What the hell, he's a half-wit!
A feeling of feeble, of open and shut,
it's Mark Sanchez with a lineman's butt! (And Rex's gut)
The inquisition lasted one season, maybe two seasons
Ev'rything the league did for no effin reason
It's a dream and then the big dance
A bit of a poseur in a three point stance. He's a bit of a turnstile, Logan Mank-
-ins. I asked about assignments, did you see his answer?
His hands started fidgeting, he looked askance?
Clueless in the Super Bowl crappin' his pants!
Swim move, boy you got beaten
Spin move, and your lunch got eaten!
I wanna bench him but he's the best we got, then I see Goodell's secret plot, and he is
Ringless
And I know he is
Ringless
All the JEST are just
Ringless
And I realize three fundamental truths at the exact same time
"Where are you taking me?"
"I'm about to change your life."
"Then by all means, lead the way."
Number one!
We're the Pats in a league in which their only chance is to whine like a *****
Tom Brady's always won, so he's the one who who must be eighteen and one
So he's the coldest and the winningest and the bullsh1t in New York City
Is insidious, and Goodell is Lombardiless,
Ha! We don't want the next one any less
Number two!
He's after me cuz I'm a proven winner. That elevates his BP, I's
got an actual franchise
Maybe that is why he's lovin' Matt Estrella, now that's his bride
Nice going, Bill Belichick, Ex-JEST
will never be satisfied
Number three!
I know opponents like I know my own mind
You will never find anyone as good at scheme design
If they suddenly enforce something that wasn't worth a fine
Any other time
You would cry that it's a crime
You'd be lying
But when I fantasize at night it's 19 and 0, surprise
As I romanticize what might have been if they hadn't prized a Giants victory
At least Matt Estrella's all right
At least the league kept parity in sight
To the Browns!
(To the Browns! To the Browns! To the Browns!)
To the Stripes!
(To the Stripes! To the Stripes! To the Stripes!)
From your master
Bill Belichick! Bill Belichick! Bill Belichick!
Check your head and he's inside!
(he's inside! he's inside!)
To New England!
(To the Pats! To the Revolution!)
And the model we provide!
(Provide, to provide)
May you some day
(some day.)
Be Satisfied
(be satisfied, be satisfied. be satisfied)
And I know
For Goodell, this counts as pride
And I know
He will never be satisfied
I will never Be Satisfied

Brilliant! “William Stephen Belichick” fits perfectly for syllables.
 
How in the world can the Patriots employ anyone with a camera based on our history?

He was working on “do your job”?
Whoever hired him should be fired.

Please take all your video cameras & destroy all cameras and tapes.
 
How in the world can the Patriots employ anyone with a camera based on our history?

He was working on “do your job”?
Whoever hired him should be fired.

Please take all your video cameras & destroy all cameras and tapes.

Look, to all of you who are complaining about the patriots still having video guys...gone would be the behind the scenes footage we love seeing in DYJ and on social media. Personally, I'm fine with it, but the video production department needs to get on the same page as the football operations as to what is permissible filming.
 
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