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  1. patchick

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    FWIW the 5th round is pretty standard for specialists. While Allen was a UDFA, Mesko and Cardona were drafted in the 5th, Gostkowski in the 4th.
     
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    Redman443 In the Starting Line-Up

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    I am pretty surprised Ghost has not faced a competition since his with martin gramatica in 06.
     
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    Redman443 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Which names / older players do you expect ?
     
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    Ebner, Butler, Dorsett.

    Your turn
     
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    Burkhead, Dawson, Hoyer
     
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    he didn't lose anything. He just doesn't have the leg Bailey has.
     
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    well any competition that's between a 3+ year vet vs a 1-2yr youngster that are relatively close so far in preseason and camp

    ie i think its possible folks like phillip, jason, chung, burk, harris, roberts, pennel dont make it
     
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    and i think only reason Hoyer will make it is because our D is shaping up to be so nasty, that it would be possible for an average QB to win the champ with them
     
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    Maybe Bailey didn’t win the punting job as much as Allen lost it (at his price). And that he wants a decent cheap guy on hand in case Bailey starts shanking it the last 2 weeks.

    In 20o7 the Pats had a competition between veteran Josh Miller and rookie Danny Baugher. Miller was cut around this time, leading people to think Baugher won. But at cutdown the Pats cut Baugher too, and wound up picking up Chris Hansen to punt after he was cut by the Saints.
     
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    The writing was on the wall when they traded up for Bailey. He was great while he was here and was a huge part of the last Super Bowl win. He’ll catch on somewhere. I wish him the best (unless he joins a team I loathe :D)!
     
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    Amazing how prescient that story turned out to be. A punter DID come close to winning the MVP (or at least get some consideration. ;) )
     
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    I don't remember many people here feeling that way, at all. In fact, by 2013 some of us were already lamenting that Bill had wasted the 150th overall pick on a specialist who sucked at that point, eerily similar to the lousy long snapper from the previous year's draft. Then throughout TC & pre-season, it became obvious that the Zoltan - as well as he can do some things like speak several languages and study economics - was simply not as good an NFL punter as the 2X Ray Guy award winner, UDFA Ryan Allen. The choice was obvious.
     
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    From Superbowl MVP consideration to the unemployment line. What a world. But not to worry, come 9/1 Allen will likely be on an NFL roster, just not for the same money that he got here.

    Blame Bill the coach. What other HC in the NFL can talk poetic about an OPPOSING punter like Bill does so often. He clearly has a Hecker obsession. And when he thought he had a chance to get one, he trade up to pick a guy they thought COULD be the next Johnny Hekker. Only time will tell if he can produce under pressure, but as of now the talent is undeniable.

    Younger, more talented, cheaper. That was a hard combination for Allen to overcome.

    But just one point. Based on what I've seen at TC and in the first game, Allen's KO's aren't nearly as good as Goskowski's. His are going to be returned most of the time. I think too much is made of his ability to KO. But as an emergency guy in both KO's and FG's, he'll be better than other team's #2
     
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    And then Hansen would move on to doing those Dateline to catch a predator series.
     
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    These are the ones that stick out to fans... and understandably so:

    Missed XP against Denver in AFCCG.
    Missed XP against Atlanta in Super Bowl.
    Miss against Philly in Super Bowl.
    Miss against Rams in Super Bowl.
     
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    I agree 100 percent!
     
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    Two good kids playing for the same job.
    The younger stronger man won.
    I wonder if he eats tuna fish?
     
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