Patriots Daily News Thread Patriots Tuesday 12/12/23

[Ian]

 

[Ian]

 

[Sicilian]

I think it's a bit premature to crown Devito with anything. Lots of guys start hot and then come back to Earth, either through regression to the mean or because DC's now have some real film on them.

Dak has been good, but he also hasn't won anything yet. I think we'd all be thrilled if we had a Dak Prescott instead of the current group, but I'm not sure that's the goal you should be shooting for.

Purdy looks real good, but he's also got a really QB friendly system and GREAT weapons. So that brings up the actual crux of the debate in this tweet: Should you grab a QB as high as you can and build around him? Or should you build a great offense, with a stout OL and great weapons, then get the best QB you can and drop him into the best possible scenario for him to succeed?

 

[Ian]

 

[Ian]

 

[Ian]

This should be ... interesting

 

[Ian]

Obviously, New England is not one of those teams

 

[Ian]

 

[Ian]

I think it's a bit premature to crown Devito with anything. Lots of guys start hot and then come back to Earth, either through regression to the mean or because DC's now have some real film on them.

Dak has been good, but he also hasn't won anything yet. I think we'd all be thrilled if we had a Dak Prescott instead of the current group, but I'm not sure that's the goal you should be shooting for.

Purdy looks real good, but he's also got a really QB friendly system and GREAT weapons. So that brings up the actual crux of the debate in this tweet: Should you grab a QB as high as you can and build around him? Or should you build a great offense, with a stout OL and great weapons, then get the best QB you can and drop him into the best possible scenario for him to succeed?

I also would have to say that intangibles might be something to also prioritize ahead of natural ability. IE: can you develop someone physically who might have the more important traits (mental toughness, resiliency, etc.). Obviously, we know a late-round guy who had those, and I feel like that might be something to keep in mind as they begin evaluating players. I also wouldn't be surprised to potentially see them select more than one QB this April, including another one of those later round guys.

 

[Ian]

More on Pickens:

 

[Ian]

Obviously there's another thread on Malik's departure:

 

[Ian]

Former Patriots draft pick who switched sports signs with pro rugby team

A former under-the-radar draft pick has made the jump from professional football to professional rugby.

www.masslive.com

 

[Ian]

 

[Sicilian]

More on Pickens:

Obviously the Thornton over Pickens selection has turned out poorly for the Patriots, but it's stuff like this that was exactly why that decision wasn't a slam dunk. He had more injuries in college than Thornton, and had as much potential to be Antonio Brown OFF the field as he did being AB ON the field. Always time for him to mature, but I don't think he and Bill would have gotten along, especially in the offensive circumstances of the last two years.

 

[Ian]

Obviously the Thornton over Pickens selection has turned out poorly for the Patriots, but it's stuff like this that was exactly why that decision wasn't a slam dunk. He had more injuries in college than Thornton, and had as much potential to be Antonio Brown OFF the field as he did being AB ON the field. Always time for him to mature, but I don't think he and Bill would have gotten along, especially in the offensive circumstances of the last two years.

Sort of a bad sign if he can’t even handle playing for them. Obviously, here - especially this year - would have probably not turned out well.

 

[Steve102]

First, cool video.
Second: talk about trying to create a market where there is none. A Tom Brady baseball card.

 

[TheRainMaker]

You know Pickens is a problem when the TNF broadcast was following him around and asking when is he getting the ball?

 

[Ian]

Obviously the Thornton over Pickens selection has turned out poorly for the Patriots, but it's stuff like this that was exactly why that decision wasn't a slam dunk. He had more injuries in college than Thornton, and had as much potential to be Antonio Brown OFF the field as he did being AB ON the field. Always time for him to mature, but I don't think he and Bill would have gotten along, especially in the offensive circumstances of the last two years.

What's sort of interesting was the fact the Steelers supposedly wanted Thornton, which played a role in New England taking him. Have to wonder, given their history, how that might have turned out by comparison given their success developing skill players.

 

[sb1]

"What could Bailey Zappe's trade value be if he finished the year on a strong note?"

If he finishes on a strong note? Day 3 pick maybe. At least that's a lot better than what his value was going in to this season.

 

[captain stone]

"...But if Belichick isn’t willing to cede personnel authority and accept some help with the grocery shopping, or insists his offensive coaching staff is just fine, you know what the Krafts should do?

Retain him anyway."


- This is where I stopped reading.