Patriots signed Tom Brady to a two-year extension through 2019

[Tony2046]

 

[meatface]

I'm not sure how I feel about this one......we should be investing in the future, not holding onto the past

alot of people said the same thing after 08. Brady has done pretty well for himself since then

 

[Hammer of Thor]

One interesting item Mike Florio points out - if Brady's new deal includes a large signing bonus and the league minimum salary for 2016, his potential loss of earnings under a 4 game suspension is reduced from $2.11M to $231K.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I am interested to see what it frees up in cap this year next year

 

[Tony2046]

Understand the concern with JG as far as if the Pats can retain him or not throughout Brady's career but by no means do I support letting Brady go to ensure JG stays.

Brady just had one of his best years despite the O line and injury issues and clearly has enough left in the tank for a few more championship runs.

OT: He started playing before my kids were born and now I get the pleasure of watching him play with two young (9, 12) fanatical Pats fans. Many great memories.

I will gladly continue to watch him through any decline whenever that may be.

 

[Deus Irae]

We are betting against the entire history of the NFL. Brady is one of a kind, but the fact remains that there has only been two QBs to start and play at a high level age 39+: Favre and Moon.

In two seasons Manning went from 55 TD passes to the worst QB in the league. QB declines are usually rapid.

Then again, Brady could defy the odds again and play until he is 45. Who the heck knows. I just hope they find another good developmental QB in the meantime.

Let's not forget that Peyton's decline was because had suffered extensive nerve damage in his neck from having to hold up that enormous cranium all these years. Brady's more normal sized head hasn't caused anything near that sort of strain.

 

[Miguel]

Perhaps a signing bonus now would count for the 2015 league year, when they want it to first hit the 2016 league year? Since Miguel said they had less than <$2M in 2015 cap space which was carried over, it could be possible. Otherwise I'm at a loss.

That is not it because the signing bonus would hit the 2016 cap and not the 2015 cap.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

One interesting item Mike Florio points out - if Brady's new deal includes a large signing bonus and the league minimum salary for 2016, his potential loss of earnings under a 4 game suspension is reduced from $2.11M to $231K.

LOL, another giant FU to Goodell with love from TFB!!

TFB: "Hey Goodell, $235k, I got that in my seat cushions"

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Maybe. But, I don't see them moving him until the three judges in New York issue their ruling on the NFL's appeal and there's a reasonable chance that it could take them as long as six months to get around to ruling.

OK. They could move him and pick up a veteran backup...but who exactly would that be? McNabb? Sanchez? Manning . You get the idea...that just ain't gonna happen.

My bad.
I did NOT mean that JAG is gone via trade. I think that is an under 5% probability, if that.
I meant that with TFB staying until 2019 Garapollo will simply go play elsewhere.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

FLASHBACK:
To Summer & early Fall 2014
All the Brady in Decline threads

 

[Deus Irae]

FLASHBACK:
To Summer & early Fall 2014
All the Brady in Decline threads

Imagine if the "TRADE BRADY" crew had gotten their way...

 

[PatsFanSince74]

If Brady seriously declines, they won't start him in the later years. He'll be the mentor and a perfect guy to step in, if it came to that. He's a team-first guy, and even a fierce competitor can be smart enough to know when it's time to slip into the background a bit. Or they'd trade him if they had to.

Please understand that I won't be the least bit surprised if this guy is STILL a top-5 QB in 2019.
Brady is, to me, the guy you keep until he can't, and year after year, he proves that thinking he won't makes you a fool.

Hope they saved some cap space.

I don't know what's going to happen, but everything we know about Brady suggests that he's not a guy who will sit on the sideline, unless he's recovering from an injury.

He's always said that he'll quit when he "sucks" and that he'll know if he sucks. Brady's definition of "sucks" probably means that he'd define "sucking" to include playing like 75% of the QB's in the league. If he gets to that point (and I am NOT saying that he will during the life of this contract), I think he'd walk away.

 

[fair catch fryar]

Imagine if the "TRADE BRADY" crew had gotten their way...

Maybe I'm wrong, but I vaguely remember some people clamoring for BB to trade Brady in'08 after his knee injury and that the future was secure in Matt Cassell.

 

[Ross12]

I wonder if you could sit down with Jimmy and convince him to sign like a 3 year extension... Tell him that Brady is our guy through 2019 barring injury or decline, but after that you've got the reins to the most successful team in the NFL. If he doesn't want to wait until 2020, he can be traded in 2017 (or 2016) for his shot with a lesser team...

 

[Deus Irae]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I vaguely remember some people clamoring for BB to trade Brady in'08 after his knee injury and that the future was secure in Matt Cassell.

Perhaps the greatest sports thread in the history of mankind...

The Official 'Trade Brady' Debate Thread - Do Not Start Another One | New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard

 

[sb1]

Curran's take:
Curran: Five thoughts on Brady's contract extension

I actually never thought about the impact of Kraft folding to Goodell in May on Brady agreeing to a new extension. It sure sounds possible that Brady could have felt a bit betrayed by it. Thank goodness it didn't matter in the end - but the fact it could have had an impact made Kraft's decision even more egregious.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I vaguely remember some people clamoring for BB to trade Brady in'08 after his knee injury and that the future was secure in Matt Cassell.

While it was obviously moronic, there was a certain logic to that idea. Cassel in New England would not have been the same scenario that played out in KC, because he wouldn't have a HC/OC trying to undermine him in Foxboro as Todd Haley did in KC.

 

[Huckleberry1]

alot of people said the same thing after 08. Brady has done pretty well for himself since then

Exactly. In fact the same people have been repeating the same meme every year since then and we would have been screwed if Belichick went by age instead of play. Brady relies on his knowledge and his accuracy as well as an approach to talking care of himself that has him in the best shape he's ever been in. If anything he's getting better, as ridiculous as that seems. I get the fact that someday his play will slip and he will hang them up but he's not reliant upon athletic ability and his arm last year was as strong as ever. People keep referring to Manning but he never had as good an atm as Brady and it literally died a year after his return from a spine surgery. If Brady sees his arm lose that kind of velocity he will call it quits, he won't hang around relying on others to get the job done. They need to be prepared for that but there is no need to rush him out the door.

 

[LightSkinSmurf]

Mmmmmm.....well as long as he doesn't start to really suck I'm happy.

 

[fair catch fryar]

While it was obviously moronic, there was a certain logic to that idea. Cassel in New England would not have been the same scenario that played out in KC, because he wouldn't have a HC/OC trying to undermine him in Foxboro as Todd Haley did in KC.

I saw no logic in it at that time and I thought the posters were morons for thinking it at the time. Trade him for what they could get and don't have to pay him the franchised tag price was the way I saw it.