Butler at 41 is Bill's best value pick since Wilfork; Chung, OTOH, should not have been taken until 47, which I never would have traded at the cost of a 4th & 6th. Not surprised another S wasn't chosen; maybe Tank stays healthy for once, Rodney - and Milloy - are still available, and Bubba, Spann & McGowan can play FS.
Why shouldn't Chung have been taken until 47? When did you become such a friggin expert?
Will Beatty - or DL Jarron Gilbert - should've been taken instead of Vollmer - a 25 yo with back issues, whose value lay in the 4th round where Ohrnburger was chosen. Bill is obviously hoping that this guy is the next Michael Roos.
Vollmer HAD (past tense) a back issue. It was a herniated disk and it was fixed. Now, as for where his value was, where do you get that he was 4th round value? The friggin scouting sites. The ones the Patriots DON'T USE. You really need to put things into context instead of reacting like a jackass.
Speaking of Ohrnburger - when I read in Ireland that he was picked instead of Lawrence Sidbury, I screamed "Who the **** is this guy?" - he should've been drafted not any earlier than the 5th round, where Bussey was selected.
Ohrnberger was rated as a mid 3rd to mid 4th pick by the draft sites.. So, where do you get that he shouldn't have been drafted until the 5th?
Speaking of Bussey, he is 2009's version of 2007's Corey Hilliard: short, slow, lazy and soft. He makes the choice of Ohrnburger look like Mankins.
I'd like to know where the hell you get your information because Bussey isn't short for an OG. For an OT, yes, but not OG. He's also not slow, lazy or soft. He's got some lateral movement issues, but that can be fixed with practice and technique.
Bill has completely lost the concept of drafting value at OL. Our last 7 picks - going back 4 years (& 3 classes) to O'Callahan in '06 - have been a very, very unfunny joke.
What is an unfunny joke is how you continually post garbage and put things up totally taking them out of context. Hell, you are already writing off this year's picks your sorry arse has never seen a single one of them play. You aren't Miss Cleo and you sure as hell aren't clairvoyant.
Let's recap those players you are talking about. Hilliard, Elgin, and Oldenburg were taken with late round picks in a weak draft when the team was already stacked at those positions. They were long shots at best. They've since gone on to other teams in the league.
O'Callaghan played well the one year until he suffered a concussion. And I believe its been that same concussion that has kept him shelved since then.. but I could be mistaken. Stevenson was a long shot.
Tate should've been removed from Bill's board, as he was removed from mine. What he should've done was insist that Jax take 83 instead of 73 and keep 234, and at 73 take WR/KR Derrick Williams instead.
Why should he have taken Derrick Williams? Cause he fits into your idea of value? He's a guy that the knocks are that he's another Devery Henderson. Not willing or able to step up when needed. Not to mention that the projection of him being a good kick returner is hampered by his lack of short area quickness.
As I stated earlier, I had removed Tate and I would have preferred Mike Wallace. But Belichick and Company clearly liked Tate better. And they have a lot more access to information that we do or even the media.
And 2 lousy ones, at that. Pryor thinks he's the next Warren Sapp. He's not tall or strong enough to hold the POA at NT, where he would have to play here. DE is absolutely out of the question; he is better-suited as a Tampa-2 Under Tackle. Richard is injury-prone and not long or explosive enough for DE; NT is out of the question.
Could you provide a link to the article where Pryor claims that he's the next Warren Sapp. Where does it say that a NT has to be "TALL" and why do you say he's not strong enough to hold the POA as a NT?
As for Richard, where do you get that he's injury prone? Because he blew out his knee 4 years ago? Dude, you seriously are reading things that aren't there and then parroting stuff. Get your own information or something.
Why the **** didn't Bill just re-sign Lonie Paxton? This makes no sense whatsoever. Instead, he wastes a roster spot & a draft pick so that 2 inferior players can do the same job, at minimal savings. Brilliant.
Another blatant over-reaction on your part. I have news for you, but you clearly didn't stop to think that MAYBE Paxton didn't want to stay. And where to you get that Hodel and Ingrahm are 2 inferior players? Hodel has been just as consistent as Paxton has been. Just because he was snapping for the Cardinals doesn't change that.
6. BB actually drafted an O Lineman that strictly played OG in college. He should've done that last year by choosing Roy Schuening instead of short, slow Johnny Wilhite in the 4th round or the excreble Matty Slater after the trade-up in the 5th.
