Pass distribution first 6 weeks sans Edelman

[JMC00]

42 targets
33 rec
252 yards
James White


41 targets
24 rec
472 yards
Brandin Cooks

41 targets
26 rec
401 yards
Gronk

41 targets
24 rec
307 yards
Chris Hogan

32 targets
26 rec
307 yards
Danny Amendola

30 targets
21 rec
220 yards
Everyone else


Ball has been spread around almost 100% evenly.

Also only team in the NFL with 4 receivers in the top 30 for receiving yards

 

[goheels22002]

Amendola is catching everything thrown his way. The only disappointment in that list is Cooks who should have a higher percentage of receptions. Everyone other than the top five on that list are also doing their jobs. 21/30 for 220 yards is a 69% catch to target ratio and more than 10 ypc.

Josh deserves a lot of credit for play calling in this situation. The Patriots still have the opponents' defense on their toes every play, even with the line being mediocre to poor so far.

This could look even better if the defense did a better job of giving the Pats' offense better field position. One of the big issues with the defense giving up so much yardage is the distance Brady has to take the team to get a scoring opportunity. He's done it, but the D needs to continue to improve to give him a few easier possessions per game. Atlanta will be a good test.

 

[Kontradiction]

BRADY IS LOCKIGN ON TO WITE

 

[maineman209]

2016--2017 catch rates/ypc

White: 69.8%/9.6 --- 78.6%/7.6 .(catch rate way up, ypc down)
Cooks: 66.7%/15.0 -- 58.5%/19.7 (catch rate down, ypc way up)
Hogan: 65.5%/17.9 -- 58.5%/12.8 (catch rate down, ypc way down)
Gronk: 65.8%/21.6 -- 65.0%/15.4 (catch rate down slightly, ypc way down)
Danny: 79.3%/10.6 -- 81.3%/11.8 (catch rate up, ypc up)

Other notable catch rate/ypc in 2017:

Lewis: 100%/6.0 ypc
Develin: 75%/6.7 ypc
Burkhead: 57.1%/12.3 ypc
Dorsett: 50%/21.3 ypc

 

[Tuck]

The elephant in the room is Amendola's ability to stay on the field at this rate.

 

[luuked]

The elephant in the room is Amendola's ability to stay on the field at this rate.

So far he has been on the field approximately on 40% of the offensive snaps (~31 snaps per game). With the Gronk-free Tampa game being the big exception where he played 75% (55 snaps). I think the team is managing him pretty well.

 

[Tony2046]

2016--2017 catch rates/ypc

White: 69.8%/9.6 --- 78.6%/7.6 .(catch rate way up, ypc down)
Cooks: 66.7%/15.0 -- 58.5%/19.7 (catch rate down, ypc way up)
Hogan: 65.5%/17.9 -- 58.5%/12.8 (catch rate down, ypc way down)
Gronk: 65.8%/21.6 -- 65.0%/15.4 (catch rate down slightly, ypc way down)
Danny: 79.3%/10.6 -- 81.3%/11.8 (catch rate up, ypc up)

Other notable catch rate/ypc in 2017:

Lewis: 100%/6.0 ypc
Develin: 75%/6.7 ypc
Burkhead: 57.1%/12.3 ypc
Dorsett: 50%/21.3 ypc

You forgot Allen.

 

[Gumby]

Amendola is catching everything thrown his way. . . .

This could look even better if the defense did a better job of giving the Pats' offense better field position. One of the big issues with the defense giving up so much yardage is the distance Brady has to take the team to get a scoring opportunity. He's done it, but the D needs to continue to improve to give him a few easier possessions per game. Atlanta will be a good test.

EVEN BETTER is relative. If the D were stronger (better field posit= less yds to go), those total yards and possibly nbrs of targets/rec would all be lower; but possibly the %s might be higher.

 

[Sicilian]

Amendola is catching everything thrown his way. The only disappointment in that list is Cooks who should have a higher percentage of receptions.

Possibly, but I don't think there's any mystery that Cooks and Hogan, who run the higher percentage of deeper routes, would have lower overall completion percentages. Remember, this isn't just drops, but incompletions on harder plays to make.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Amazing that Gronk's reception/targeted #s are as good as they are given the PIs against him that are not called

 

[Nehalem]

2016--2017 catch rates/ypc

White: 69.8%/9.6 --- 78.6%/7.6 .(catch rate way up, ypc down)
Cooks: 66.7%/15.0 -- 58.5%/19.7 (catch rate down, ypc way up)
Hogan: 65.5%/17.9 -- 58.5%/12.8 (catch rate down, ypc way down)
Gronk: 65.8%/21.6 -- 65.0%/15.4 (catch rate down slightly, ypc way down)
Danny: 79.3%/10.6 -- 81.3%/11.8 (catch rate up, ypc up)

Other notable catch rate/ypc in 2017:

Lewis: 100%/6.0 ypc
Develin: 75%/6.7 ypc
Burkhead: 57.1%/12.3 ypc
Dorsett: 50%/21.3 ypc

Worth point out for Cooks

W1-2: 5 of 11, 45.5%, 125 yards, 25yards/catch
W3-6: 19 of 31, 61.3% 347 yards, 18.2yards/catch

 

[Ring 6]

Amendola is catching everything thrown his way. The only disappointment in that list is Cooks who should have a higher percentage of receptions. Everyone other than the top five on that list are also doing their jobs. 21/30 for 220 yards is a 69% catch to target ratio and more than 10 ypc.

Josh deserves a lot of credit for play calling in this situation. The Patriots still have the opponents' defense on their toes every play, even with the line being mediocre to poor so far.

This could look even better if the defense did a better job of giving the Pats' offense better field position. One of the big issues with the defense giving up so much yardage is the distance Brady has to take the team to get a scoring opportunity. He's done it, but the D needs to continue to improve to give him a few easier possessions per game. Atlanta will be a good test.

You can't expect the same % from cooks who gets throws on low percentage routes as amendola or white who get higher percentage throws.
The deeper downfield you operate the lower your catch % is going to be and it's no ones fault because deeper passes are harder to complete. 60% of cooks route package is very good.

 

[brdmaverick]

So far he has been on the field approximately on 40% of the offensive snaps (~31 snaps per game). With the Gronk-free Tampa game being the big exception where he played 75% (55 snaps). I think the team is managing him pretty well.

My only wish would be that they get someone else to field punts. With Edelman out, Amendola's healthy is THAT much more important. His offense is far more important than special teams. Sign someone else who can field a punt.

 

[brdmaverick]

You can't expect the same % from cooks who gets throws on low percentage routes as amendola or white who get higher percentage throws.
The deeper downfield you operate the lower your catch % is going to be and it's no ones fault because deeper passes are harder to complete. 60% of cooks route package is very good.

I agree, I think what sticks in people's minds are a few shorter drops that Cooks had, but his catch rate on deeper passes is actually pretty impressive considering the degree of difficulty.

 

[brdmaverick]

That's pretty crazy that the four leaders of that list each have 41/42 targets. Talk about doing a good job of keeping the defense guessing.

 

[rochrist]

You can't expect the same % from cooks who gets throws on low percentage routes as amendola or white who get higher percentage throws.
The deeper downfield you operate the lower your catch % is going to be and it's no ones fault because deeper passes are harder to complete. 60% of cooks route package is very good.

Exactly. If Cooks is a disappointment, why isn't Hogan with the exact same catch percentage and 170 less yards to show for it?

 

[luuked]

You can't expect the same % from cooks who gets throws on low percentage routes as amendola or white who get higher percentage throws.
The deeper downfield you operate the lower your catch % is going to be and it's no ones fault because deeper passes are harder to complete. 60% of cooks route package is very good.

Agree. I just hope that we can finally get over the hump and see him catch a few slants without something screw it up.

 

[Ring 6]

Agree. I just hope that we can finally get over the hump and see him catch a few slants without something screw it up.

He looks dangerous catching the ball in stride in the middle of the field in the spread. Thought he was gone last game (game before?) but he was just tripped up.

 

[Ring 6]

42 targets
33 rec
252 yards
James White


41 targets
24 rec
472 yards
Brandin Cooks

41 targets
26 rec
401 yards
Gronk

41 targets
24 rec
307 yards
Chris Hogan

32 targets
26 rec
307 yards
Danny Amendola

30 targets
21 rec
220 yards
Everyone else


Ball has been spread around almost 100% evenly.

Also only team in the NFL with 4 receivers in the top 30 for receiving yards

The real insight here is that Brady is showing no tendencies. Everyone on the field is equally likely to get the ball. And my instinct is it's similar game to game (i.e. Not 10 catches for cooks this week Gronk next week hogan another time etc). This will make the patriots very hard to game plan against in the post season.

Mcdaniel deserve credit here as well because although he doesn't call who gets the ball he calls plays with progressions that appear to be quite varied.

I'd love to see targets and catches compared to # of pass plays snaps.

 

[Tony2046]

Re Cooks,

There are times when watching the all-22 I can see how Cooks influences the secondary which creates room for Hogan etc.. It doesn't show up on the stat sheet but it's probably just as valuable as a catch.

Btw: This is a well balanced receiving group from the deep threats to the RB's coming out of the backfield. They complement each other well. Having Edelman in the mix would have been insanity. Damn damn damn.