Overreaction Monday 2025

[Bill Lee]

Our Pats Life could be much worse...

Agree.

Color coded this to IMHO:

Clear - Good value for money
Green - Great value for money. Either rookie contract and is or could still be the guy or good enough for the money to get fans in seats, sell beer and shirts, and play mostly decent.
Yellow - Getting shakey for the money, I've never understood the upside (looking at you Burrow), or their game (Lamar/Mahomes) puts a lot of money at risk.
Red - The Jerry Zone brought to you by Dak "22% of the teams cap and hasn't gotten anywhere" Prescott.

All good takes, but we have to admit we have confidence in this kind of thing because of some pretty large sample sizes. We don't have that for Maye.

I'm still in the Maye camp but worst case you build the team around him for another couple of years and look for a FA or draft all star to come in.

As above, for me this year the team needs to look for growth from Maye in general and in the Maye-McD relationship in particular. If Josh is the wrong coach for Maye you need to make a course correction for his third year. If he shows little growth by the end of his third year then you are in a dicey situation because in year four you have to decide abut the franchise tag vs a long term extension. You don't want to be in the situation like Purdy or Lawrence where the timing forces you to commit to a guy who isn't elite. Also by end of Maye's third year it'll be Vrabel's second and if things are not on the right track the whole thing could get blown up. This to me puts a lot of pressure on making the right evaluation at the end of this season.

 

[raduray]

My overreaction: DeVito, DeVito, DeVito

 

[Bill Lee]

My doomsday Patriots overreaction take is it's not the prospects, it's that we're now another place where promising players get ruined.

I don't really feel that. To me I think we have a competent coaching staff, unlike the last several seasons. That alone is a big step forward. I do wonder if this staff can be elite. I'm not getting that vibe off of Terrell Williams and Josh McDaniels. Competent, yes. Elite, not really. Wouldn't be that surprised to see either or both replaced at the end of the season, except for the fact that Vrabel tends to be a pretty loyal guy. It'll be interesting to see what his evaluation is at the end of the season. If this means I'm writing off this season, yes I am. This season is in essence extended training camp except against better opposition.

 

[Bill Lee]

My overreaction: DeVito, DeVito, DeVito

 

[imahobgoblin]

I agree that Drake has all the physical tools, but does he have the discernment to read defenses and adjust. That is different than having all the tools. Josh Allen grew and became a great QB because he could see film and adjust his approach on the field. We have all year to see if Drake has the same mental makeup. After yesterday Drake had the simplest of defenses and could not adjust.

The Dolphins will stack the box on early counts and play zone until Drake proves he can adjust. Mac never adjusted and still hasn't 4 years later. Hard to believe that Drake is Zach Wilson, but we don't know at this point since we have not even seen a glimmer of hope.

Ya and no one knew in year 2 after putting up 3000 yards that Allen would be what he is today. We have no idea what Drake will be. Time will tell. He has the tools. He is a year younger than Josh in his 2nd year and had absolute crap coaching in his first year. Just let the kid play ball and learn how to be an NFL QB. He has no idea right now and that is to be expected with the total mess he was in last year.

 

[raduray]

My overreaction: DeVito, DeVito, DeVito

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Ya and no one knew in year 2 after putting up 3000 yards that Allen would be what he is today. We have no idea what Drake will be. Time will tell. He has the tools. He is a year younger than Josh in his 2nd year and had absolute crap coaching in his first year. Just let the kid play ball and learn how to be an NFL QB. He has no idea right now and that is to be expected with the total mess he was in last year.

I agree, but after this season Drake has to develop beyond scrambling and hero ball.

 

[TheRainMaker]

The Ravens last night choking against the Bills AGAIN....

 

[raduray]

I agree, but after this season Drake has to develop beyond scrambling and hero ball.

Hope to see that happening as the season goes on.

 

[The Gr8est]

My overreaction: DeVito, DeVito, DeVito

Better than Dobbs, Dobbs, Dobbs.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

Seemed like he was thinking instead of just playing. Especially after the interception. Trying to do all the stuff josh is telling him. It isn't natural yet, so he looks "lost." He didn't revert old drake, so that's a sign that he's trying to learn.

 

[TheRainMaker]

The good news is if Tommy plays then maybe his Dad Danny will get the Taylor Swift treatment.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Our Schedule is not daunting I have lowered my expectations: IF we can't get at least 8 wins this season is a failure.

You are looking at it from the Patriots side of things.

What about looking at the other side. Atlanta, Saints, Fins, Panthers, Titans, Jags etc will look at the Patriots game as a "should win".

These aren't the old Patriots. No game is a "gimme".

 

[NFL Mystique]

People give a lot of deserved credit to Josh for his work with Brady, but it was Weiss who launched him.

Brady was an MVP winner and barely lost a SB before McDaniels returned from a failed stint as OC with the Rams.

I truly believe Brady would have been successful with anyone as OC. And that's not a knock on McDaniels. That's just a testament to Brady's greatness.

 

[PatsFan2]

You are looking at it from the Patriots side of things.

What about looking at the other side. Atlanta, Saints, Fins, Panthers, Titans, Jags etc will look at the Patriots game as a "should win".

These aren't the old Patriots. No game is a "gimme".

I didn't stutter: if we don't win at least 8 games this season is a failure.

 

[NFL Mystique]

I didn't stutter: if we don't win at least 8 games this season is a failure.

No.

You are correct.

If they have a poor record with this schedule, it is alarming.

 

[imahobgoblin]

I didn't stutter: if we don't win at least 8 games this season is a failure.

You are a clown show. We had the one of the worst rosters in the NFL 8 months ago after one of the worst coaching staffs in franchise history. I don't care how you whine, this roster is not being fixed in 1 offseason. We are in year 1 of a total rebuild. The season is not a failure if we achieve the goals of building a new platform and team.

 

[jdlboot14]

I don't like Maye saying that he "saw it well" - when referring to the offense and the scheme.
it seems he hasn't

 

[Nikolai]

As long as we improve over the course of the season and compete every week, it's a step in the right direction.

Okay, so I got a bit homerific and predicted 10-7. Call me an optimist. Who knows what's going to happen?

The 2007 Giants had the worst defense in NFL history during their 0-2 start and...well...

The NFL is a weird place. Let's see what happens.

 

[Run DMC]

Of course the D will be better when Gonzo returns. They gave up 20 points, that's hardly a disaster. The offense in a word, BLOWS. Possibly the worst receiving corps in the league and an O line which is let's face it, kind of a mess. Lack of skill positions everywhere. Maye throws a nice ball but he's green AF. Bottom line, this is a glorified preseason game, so I'm not on suicide watch just yet. It's going to take years to fix this mess on offense. The entire scouting/drafting dept needs to be fired. We simply must get better at drafting or we will be bottom dwellers in perpetuity. Period. The end.