OT: Tagovailoa Holding In (UPDATE 7/26: He’s been paid)

[sb1]

Wow they really went to 4 years. He better stay healthy.

 

[Fuzz]

Wow they really went to 4 years. He better stay healthy.

$167 million guaranteed

 

[NFL Mystique]

I'm not a huge fan of Dak Prescott. But I definitely take him over Tua.

Have to think Dak is looking at 60 million per year.

 

[Pape]

Wow, 4 years, 212.4m ...

tua is decent... hes not 200 million dollars good though... ymmv on that assessment

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

I really really hope little Tua gets what his concussed brain thinks he deserves.

 

[Triumph]

He got his contract. Just over $50MM aav

Miami had no choice.

The Miami Super Bowl window opened last season and they choked it away. Hill, basically is the catalyst that makes the Dolphins offense the force that it is, has his contract more or less expire after 2025. So, realistically, in my eyes this season is make or break for the Dolphins. I seriously doubt that Hill (who turns 31) will not want more money after this season.

 

[WinstonSmith]

Miami had no choice.

The Miami Super Bowl window opened last season and they choked it away. Hill, basically is the catalyst that makes the Dolphins offense the force that it is, has his contract more or less expire after 2025. So, realistically, in my eyes this season is make or break for the Dolphins. I seriously doubt that Hill (who turns 31) will not want more money after this season.

Yeah, I don't think that Miami played their cards well when they had the multiple 1st round picks; instead of building a perennial contender they hit the easy button going for instant success and now find themselves in a disadvantageous cap situation with a good but high injury risk QB.

They remind me of mountain climbers that die in the death zone of Mt Everest, they come so close but never quite make it.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

The more Miami pays him, the better for us…

 

[stcjones]

Tua is an average overall QB…..take Tyreek Hill out of the equation and Tua returns to mediocrity. Hill will make ANY QB look elite….
Tua is also one more (maybe 2) concussion away from early retirement……Doofin overpaid heavily for a guy they were getting ready to cut or replace a few years ago before Tyreek Hill saved his career!!!

 

[Ross12]

I’m not sure how they could pay so much guaranteed cash to him considering the injury risk.

It seems like there’s no longer any separation between good and great QBs anymore with these deals. If you’re a top 16 guy, or even just have the potential to be a top 16 guy, when you’re up for your extension you will just automatically be the next highest paid QB in history or very close to it. Seems idiotic but we can only blame the owners.

 

[Froob]

Holy crap what an awful contract. Not sure how you can be confident Tua can win a game outdoors in January

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Tua is an average overall QB…..take Tyreek Hill out of the equation and Tua returns to mediocrity. Hill will make ANY QB look elite….
Tua is also one more (maybe 2) concussion away from early retirement……Doofin overpaid heavily for a guy they were getting ready to cut or replace a few years ago before Tyreek Hill saved his career!!!

Agreed BUT… honest is honest and Tua has OWNED us . It’s ****ing infuriating

 

[Pape]

I’m not sure how they could pay so much guaranteed cash to him considering the injury risk.

It seems like there’s no longer any separation between good and great QBs anymore with these deals. If you’re a top 16 guy, or even just have the potential to be a top 16 guy, when you’re up for your extension you will just automatically be the next highest paid QB in history or very close to it. Seems idiotic but we can only blame the owners.

its crazy... the packers paid Love even more than what tua got... based on what was really one half season of decent play

 

[Froob]

its crazy... the packers paid Love even more than what tua got... based on what was really one half season of decent play

To me, Love proved how much more valuable playing is than sitting and watching. He was ass until he got like ten games under his belt.

 

[Pape]

To me, Love proved how much more valuable playing is than sitting and watching. He was ass until he got like ten games under his belt.

he sat for two years... did that help him overall? there are guys who play and win right away, and there are guys who sit for a year or two then ball out... and the reverse is true, with guys sucking ass in both scenarios

sitting certainly didn't hurt Love's ability to get generational wealth in one single contract extension...

 

[Stu Pidassle]

Miami had no choice.

The Miami Super Bowl window opened last season and they choked it away. Hill, basically is the catalyst that makes the Dolphins offense the force that it is, has his contract more or less expire after 2025. So, realistically, in my eyes this season is make or break for the Dolphins. I seriously doubt that Hill (who turns 31) will not want more money after this season.

It seems like the debate over how long the franchise would be set back if Maye flames out was the wrong concern. Contracts like this highlight how long a team is out of super bowl contention if they draft a QB that is good, but not elite. The Giants are a good example of where teams are loathe to start over again and sign up for another four years of mediocrity. The other takeaway for Patriots fans is that you shouldn't spend big money on WR until you are sure that you have the QB. Otherwise you are trapped into keeping players like Tua and Jones.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

he sat for two years... did that help him overall? there are guys who play and win right away, and there are guys who sit for a year or two then ball out... and the reverse is true, with guys sucking ass in both scenarios

sitting certainly didn't hurt Love's ability to get generational wealth in one single contract extension...

Multi- generational wealth

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

These contracts have almost nothing to do with being rated a top qb. The difference in pay between a Brady and a Cousins doesn’t seem like much of a difference. The only difference, like someone else mentioned, is just being in line for the next big paycheck and you will get it. If Mac didn’t **** the bed like he did, he would be in line…how’s that for cringey? So long as you don’t **** everything up and totally bomb, you will get that contract a la Sam Bradford and Josh Freeman etc…

 

[TinhWoodhead]

Tuana

 

[TheRainMaker]

Why…..why are teams continually paying guys so early?