OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[Haterproof]

This was a huge upset win by the Titans! Hopefully they're riding high and blow the doors of the Saints next week too!

 

[amfootball]

I see 3-4 potentials. Eventually Stafford will turn back into a pumpkin.

Looks like that was tonight. Lol

 

[amfootball]

One thing on the Bucs is obviously the penalties which shows the ill-discipline and exemplifies the greatness of Bill in this regard as Brady rarely had to worry about any significant penalties in NE.

But another thing which caught my eye was the double pass which they tried to execute against the Saints with Brady pitching it LF7 and then LF7 looking to throw it back to Brady with Brady to throw long downfield aka 2007 with Faulk/Brady/Moss. But what really interested me that even though the play was blown LF7 still tried to throw without concealing the play - which means they can’t use the play exactly the same way in post season when they need it. In the 2014/15 season against KC we were going to use the double pass with Edelman and Dola, and in the American game documentary they showed how Dola called the play off to Brady because it wasn’t there (Brady ended up throwing a TD anyway on that play) but they were able to keep it up their sleeve for the Ravens game. Obviously there is a bit of player IQ involved as well but shows how well for the most part we are coached compared to this Bucs team.

Don't disagree but it didn't matter last year for the Bucs. We'll see if they can things straightened out this year like they did last year.

Also what Brady is missing in terms of coaching is made up with personnel.

 

[Guts]

What a great bye week for the Bucs. Everything went their way

 

[Reubski23]

Don't disagree but it didn't matter last year for the Bucs. We'll see if they can things straightened out this year like they did last year.

Also what Brady is missing in terms of coaching is made up with personnel.

Yep 100% they sorted it out last year and I will be surprised if they don't again this year; a lot of it is coming from the D and they are down personal as well so not a huge surprise. Clearly the Patriots regimen was sharper with discipline etc. But I am also not completely discounting the Buc's coaching either it obviously worked. It obviously takes more than great players to win the SB even when you have the GOAT.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

This is William Hill, which I think is a UK book. DraftKings might have different odds.

I thought Brady would be higher than this…he is top of list but his implied odds are 20-25%. I guess with half a season left you can’t be that heavily favored though.

The MVP may come down to Brady-Allen head to head.

 

[VectorPrime]

Anyone can tear their knee at any moment, that threat is baked in too.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Anyone can tear their knee at any moment, that threat is baked in too.

Yep…or a less dramatic injury that affects performance. Murray, Prescott, Rodgers all got hit recently with something unexpectedly.

 

[carmelo15]

No, thank you. Your posts are comedy gold. Just when I think you couldn't say anything dumber you do.

this is true haha

 

[amfootball]

This is William Hill, which I think is a UK book. DraftKings might have different odds.

I thought Brady would be higher than this…he is top of list but his implied odds are 20-25%. I guess with half a season left you can’t be that heavily favored though.

The MVP may come down to Brady-Allen head to head.

My goodness. 44 and at the top. Brady has led the league in yards and TDs from game 1 on.
There just isn't words anymore for what he is doing.

I do wonder if Bill had built our teams with more elite talent at the skill positions if Brady would be going for his 8th or 9th MVP at this point.

 

[amfootball]

What a great bye week for the Bucs. Everything went their way

No kidding. Every box got checked. Hopefully they have figured out the D during the bye and also get some of the secondary back and AB/Gronk.

 

[sb1]

When even Nick Wright says the MVP race is coming up "all Brady" then that's exactly what it's doing. LOL

Brady leaves Belichick and the Patriots and then right away with his new team wins a ring and imagine then the following season wins MVP and another ring. SyStEm QuArtErBaCk

 

[amfootball]

When even Nick Wright says the MVP race is coming up "all Brady" then that's exactly what it's doing. LOL

Brady leaves Belichick and the Patriots and then right away with his new team wins a ring and imagine then the following season wins MVP and another ring. SyStEm QuArtErBaCk

Nick Wright has really changed his tune with regards to Brady. He knows Mahomes will never catch him so he has moved on to hating Josh Allen and Herbert and even Lamar who he sees as more of a threat to Mahomes than Brady. In other words, he would rather have Brady keep winning because he is uncatchable anyways than see the young QBs pass Mahomes in perception. I have to say, I am loving it. That Tampa win did so much for Brady and absolutely crushed the haters to where they have thrown in the white towel.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Why is Josh Allen still either #1 or #2 in MVP odds?

• The Bills are 5-3, despite having the best defensive DVOA in the league
• His passer rating is 97.1 (107 last year); his ANY/A is 6.85 (7.82 last year). He’s close to average in both categories.
• He failed 3/3 times to win close games.
• He’s averaging about 40 rushing yards/game, and has 3 total TD runs to add to his 17 TD passes, for 20 total.

 

[Guts]

Nick Wright has really changed his tune with regards to Brady. He knows Mahomes will never catch him so he has moved on to hating Josh Allen and Herbert and even Lamar who he sees as more of a threat to Mahomes than Brady. In other words, he would rather have Brady keep winning because he is uncatchable anyways than see the young QBs pass Mahomes in perception. I have to say, I am loving it. That Tampa win did so much for Brady and absolutely crushed the haters to where they have thrown in the white towel.

He should be worried about Mahomes. He's playing like ****

 

[amfootball]

Why is Josh Allen still either #1 or #2 in MVP odds?

• The Bills are 5-3, despite having the best defensive DVOA in the league
• His passer rating is 97.1 (107 last year); his ANY/A is 6.85 (7.82 last year). He’s close to average in both categories.
• He failed 3/3 times to win close games.
• He’s averaging about 40 rushing yards/game, and has 3 total TD runs to add to his 17 TD passes, for 20 total.

People want Allen to be that guy.

IMO, the only player besides Brady who means the most to his team is Lamar.

 

[sb1]

People want Allen to be that guy.

IMO, the only player besides Brady who means the most to his team is Lamar.

That's probably the order of my MVP ballot right now. Brady, Lamar, Allen

 

[amfootball]

BTW, if Lamar wins a second MVP, Nick's head will explode. LOL

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

LeSean McCoy:

 

[amfootball]

Things keep getting worse for the Saints.

Sean Payton on OBJ: It's impossible for us to put a claim in on the player with our cap space

Because he's being released after the trading deadline, former Browns receiver Odell Beckham Jr. will hit the waiver wire before becoming a free agent who can sign with any team.

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