OT: Lamar Jackson

[BaconGrundleCandy]

No I wasn't trying to get anyone upset but it doesn't take much does it?


Did you even bother looking to compare to others or using some context. These names jump out but at the time who had Jimmy G as QB2/2nd round? Darius Slay CB5/2nd Rd. Everyone knew abt Mack & Clowney but I had D-Law as a 1st Rd pick when many never heard of him. Jackson was called a WR/RB by "pros" but a hair away from being QB1.
Go look at 2014 WR rankings & see how many had Odell > Watkins. Odell didn't blow up until the combine but still wasn't on top of people boards.

I'm certainly not perfect but my grades are better then most. And I don't rank players so Idc who's in front of who. Jackson & Sam were almost tied. I'm simply looking to get that individual as close to where I think he'll be in the NFL.

I welcome any comparison & have no problem being judged but you should be some research before coming to a conclusion.

Most don't even make their stuff public. My phone is on 3% so I'll look when I can but one thing abt my stuff I know for sure is I don't miss nearly as bad as some.



Regarding my grades @BobDigital took a lot of time to objectively look at them. He has no dog in the fight... I wonder how much objectivity you'll use & research you do. I have no problem at all if anyone wants to compare & judge. Just be objective, know what you're talking abt & do a little research.

BaconGrudleCandy the draft God

Here's OTG site. Bringing this up bc I respect what he does & one of the few to actually put it out there.

2013 Scouting Reports
2014 Scouting Reports
2015 Scouting Reports
2016 Scouting Reports
2017 Scouting Reports
2018 Scouting Reports


NFL Draft 2018: Todd McShay's 10-year track record rating quarterbacks
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Mel Kiper's Top 10 NFL Draft Blunders

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2014 NFL Draft: Taking a look at where Mike Mayock hit and missed over the years

The top 300 players in the 2015 NFL Draft - SBNation.com

2015 NFL Draft: Quarterback Rankings - WalterFootball.com

NFL Draft Big Board 2015: Matt Miller's Final Rankings | Bleacher Report ...

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2015 NFL Draft: Mike Mayock's top 100 prospects - NFL.com

Ranking top 50 prospects for 2016 NFL Draft

Mike Mayock's 2017 NFL Draft top 100 prospect rankings - NFL.com

Hot 150: Gil Brandt's top-ranked prospects for 2017 NFL Draft

Top 5 2017 NFL Draft prospects by position

Daniel Jeremiah's top 50 prospects for 2017 NFL Draft 3.0

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Hot 100 + 40: Leonard Williams top prospect in 2015 NFL Draft

2012 NFL Draft Hot 100 + 25: Final ranking of top prospects - NFL.com

Hot 100 + 25: Luke Joeckel, Ziggy Ansah still top 2013 draft class - NFL.com

Gil Brandt's top 50 prospects for the 2014 NFL Draft

2014 NFL Draft: Mike Mayock's top 100 prospects - NFL.com

Actually very cool to look at back at what all these guys had at the time. I'll keep adding.

Deshaun Watson, Mitchell Trubisky battle for No. 1 in draft QB rankings

2017 NFL draft quarterback rankings - AZCentral.com

NFL Draft 2017: Ranking the top 10 quarterbacks
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2013 NFL Draft: Mike Mayock's top 100 prospects - NFL.com

NFL Draft Big Board 2013: Matt Miller's Final Rankings

NFL Draft 2013 Big Board: Final Position Rankings from Top Experts

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

I linked 20+ draft grades from multiple sources, multiple years for anyone to look at & compare. I'd welcome any poster to dive in if they wanted to do so if you're curious or interested (obviously after the game). It's actually really cool to take a look back for a lot of reasons.
Some of these guys are paid, well known & have been around for a long time so it's obvious their considered good at what they do.
I welcome any objective opinions when comparing. @Ice_Ice_Brady asked for data & I provided a ton. Genuinely asking who has been better? Not in a arrogant way. I respect all these guys a ton & have learned a lot from some of them. I'm just not afraid to compare & contrast. I have no problem, respectfully being judged or judging someone on their work. How exactly do you get better if you're afraid of criticism or looking at where you could improve? Have to have thick skin in life.

I love talking draft, evals/grades at the time as well as hindsight & what could have been. For instance Randy Moss had a chance to play for St Louis Rams if they drafted him instead of Wistrom in 98. Imagine Warner, Faulk, Bruce, Holt (drafted following year) together. I'm not sure there's a collection of talent on offense that could rival that group.

 

[Uptown]

Main question: Can we hold BAL/KC to 20 in the playoffs?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Main question: Can we hold BAL/KC to 20 in the playoffs?

If we can control the clock like yesterday, yes. BAL and KC D are not as good as BUFs imo.

Need JJ and Jason back vs KC.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Importance of year 2 for QB's.

 

[bormio]

If we can control the clock like yesterday, yes. BAL and KC D are not as good as BUFs imo.

Need JJ and Jason back vs KC.

3 weeks - More hopeful about JJ as McCourty apparently aggravated his groin.

 

[fightingirish595]

3 weeks - More hopeful about JJ as McCourty apparently aggravated his groin.

Hernias ****in suck

 

[sambam94]

I guess it's their offense, but having Lamar keep running the ball when they are up late is just asking for trouble.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

2019 Passing TD %
1. Lamar Jackson • BAL 9.0%
2. Ryan Tannehill • TEN 7.5%

All time there's only been 3 players to hit 9.0% or higher. Manning is tied with Y.A. at 6th. Rodgers & Jackson are tied for 15th
Peyton Manning (28) 9.9% 2004 IND
Lamar Jackson (22) 9.0% 2019 BAL
Aaron Rodgers (27) 9.0% 2011 GNB

Not comparing, trying to trigger anyone the day after Xmas. I'm case anyone's curious Brady best years regarding passing TD% are 2007 & 2010, no surprise. 8.7% in 2007 & 7.3% in 2010.