BB's new book has no mention of Bob Kraft - admits shocking mistake

[Hammer of Thor]

F-it i'll do it now. Players from CLE, NEP, NYG, NYJ

QB- Brady
RB- Dillion
RB2- C-Mart
FB- Maurice Carthon
3rd Down- James White
TE1- Gronk
TE2- Bavaro (no way i'm leaving him off this team)
WR1- Moss
WR2- Keenan McCardell (CLE)
WR3- Wes

LT- Jumbo Elliott, LG- Mankins C- Mawae RG- Brian Watters RT- Fabini

RE- Seymour
NT- Ted Washington
LE- Leonard Marshall
ROLB- LT
RILB- Pepper
LILB- Carson
LOLB- Willie
RCB- Revis
LCB- Law
CB3- Everson Walls
SS- Rodney
FS- Eric Turner (Devin and Terry Kinard get a strong mention)
K- Adam
P- Tupa

Man, it really says something about the defenses that he coached that Bruschi, Wilfork and Gilmore don’t make that roster, let alone guys like Vrabel, McCourty and Hightower.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Man, it really says something about the defenses that he coached that Bruschi, Wilfork and Gilmore don’t make that roster, let alone guys like Vrabel, McCourty and Hightower.

One could argue DMC because he stayed healthy but for those who saw him coming out of UCLA and healthy, Eric Turner was a bad man. He wasn't as durable as DMC but a 100% Eric Turner was a superior player.

Bru was not better than Harry Carson and Pepper Johnson. Believe me..I wanted Tedy on that list.

Same with Vrabes and High. They were not better players than LT or Willie Mac. Same goes for Carl Banks and Mo Lewis who had great careers but didn't make the cut.

Gilmore and Aaron Glenn are tough ones. You could argue they are just as good as Everson Walls but i'm not leaving off a guy w/ 57 career picks.

 

[signbabybrady]

F-it i'll do it now. Players from CLE, NEP, NYG, NYJ

QB- Brady
RB- Dillion
RB2- C-Mart
FB- Maurice Carthon
3rd Down- James White
TE1- Gronk
TE2- Bavaro (no way i'm leaving him off this team)
WR1- Moss
WR2- Keenan McCardell (CLE)
WR3- Wes

LT- Jumbo Elliott, LG- Mankins C- Mawae RG- Brian Watters RT- Fabini

RE- Seymour
NT- Ted Washington
LE- Leonard Marshall
ROLB- LT
RILB- Pepper
LILB- Carson
LOLB- Willie
RCB- Revis
LCB- Law
CB3- Everson Walls
SS- Rodney
FS- Eric Turner (Devin and Terry Kinard get a strong mention)
K- Adam
P- Tupa

Just here to give an atta boy for including Ted Washington. I know picking him over Vince isn't easy.

Also feel like James White belongs too. Good call.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Just here to give an atta boy for including Ted Washington. I know picking him over Vince isn't easy.

Also feel like James White belongs too. Good call.

In his prime, Ted Washington was a superior player to VW. Full stop. TBH it's absurd hes not in the HoF. Greatest NT ever.

James White vs Eric Metcalf. When Metcalf left CLE in 1994, he became a WR so needed to look at Metcalf as a RB in CLE vs White as a RB in NE. White IMO edges him out but an argument could be made for Metcalf as the better overall player.

KFaulk and Dave Meggett were also in the mix but White was the better receiver IMO of all of them....prob should have put Larry Centers in there as well.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Belichick refuse induction into the Patriots HOF. The Dynasty hit job was truly disgraceful.

 

[neckroll#14]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Belichick refuse induction into the Patriots HOF. The Dynasty hit job was truly disgraceful.

That would sure make a point. The situation boxes Bologna Bob in... he can't not move to induct BB, even though I am sure he would rather not. Then to be snubbed if BB goes that route... ouch

 

[Thelonious]

I wouldn't know what a gay porn looks like...

I've never seen any either. I assume it involves men having sex. Glad to be of help.

 

[Thelonious]

Oh dear. Those look exactly like my glasses.

 

[TommyD4207]

I've never seen any either. I assume it involves men having sex. Glad to be of help.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Belichick refuse induction into the Patriots HOF. The Dynasty hit job was truly disgraceful.

If we've learned anything from the Tuna/Kraft mending of fences it'll happen...someday hopefully before they have passed away.

BB is still an active coach so there may be a delay because of that.

 

[h0c2000]

Bill should be appreciative of how much focus Robert's Dynasty documentary devoted to Bill.

 

[Jackson 2]

Bill should be appreciative of how much focus Robert's Dynasty documentary devote to Bill.

Actually Kraft should be appreciative of the fact that Belichick didn't mention Kraft in his book. Because 1) Bill would tell the truth, and 2) if he did, Kraft would have been correctly, deservedly and appropriately, eviscerated.

 

[Steve102]

Actually Kraft should be appreciative of the fact that Belichick didn't mention Kraft in his book. Because 1) Bill would tell the truth, and 2) if he did, Kraft would have been correctly, deservedly and appropriately, eviscerated.

I said prior that I think Kraft was too busy enjoying the spoils of success. I think they (the Krafts) hated Bill and how he ran it, but it worked. They held their nose and trusted him to run it, he had earned that trust even if they didn't like the man. As we know, Bill was unable to keep it going, bad drafts, bad signings, and betting on Brady's age catching up with him finally did Bill in. By then, they were so out of touch that they thought by bringing in collaborative efforts, folks like Glaser and keeping a "good guy" like Mayo in house, that the football stuff would take care of itself, much like it had been for 20 years under Bill's stewardship. At least the Krafts figured out their mistake, and brought football people back in this year. Like @Pape said, Kraft could have locked Tom and Bill in an office and said "figure it out" but he was too busy fiddle-effing around at that point, and it got away from him.

Bill, for all his faults, never aired dirty laundry on players, and I will wager he won't when it comes to the Krafts as well.

 

[Real fan 02]

Actually Kraft should be appreciative of the fact that Belichick didn't mention Kraft in his book. Because 1) Bill would tell the truth, and 2) if he did, Kraft would have been correctly, deservedly and appropriately, eviscerated.

Like any other NFL owner, RK got used to the profits 6 championships brought him. Money is the only thing that makes sense to billionaires.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Bill should be appreciative of how much focus Robert's Dynasty documentary devoted to Bill.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Is this sarcasm? By episode 3 or 4, I had enough and turned that **** off as the theme was the Pats were winning despite Bill's sabotage.

 

[mike_usagisan]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Belichick refuse induction into the Patriots HOF. The Dynasty hit job was truly disgraceful.

I think he’d suck it up and take the honor. Any HOF that includes Brady should include BB. But no way would he wear the pin!

 

[signbabybrady]

I think he’d suck it up and take the honor. Any HOF that includes Brady should include BB. But no way would he wear the pin!