OT: Does Winning 3 SB's After Previous Heartbreaks Help Ease the Pain?

[Hyped]

If they played with today’s rules, they get smoked as these players are way faster and stronger. Players back then as a whole weren’t very fast, especially on D.

If they played with the rules back then, it’s a different story.

Apples and Oranges, man…

I don’t think Ted Johnson, Urlacher, Zach Thomas, and maybe even Jerod Mayo would get their deserved accolades these days (last 5 years). We play in sub packages more than base packages these days.

In other ways, it is harder to pass the ball these days than it used to be except for the part where you can’t mug WR’s LOL…

 

[reflexblue]

2014 made up for the loss in 2011, and 2018 made up for the loss in 2017.

I'll never get completely over SB42, though.

Me either, i never got over that loss, it changed me forever.To be that close to a perfect season and a SB win, and have it snatched away on a freak play was/is devastating.

 

[BTTA]

OT: Does Winning 3 SB's After Previous Heartbreaks Help Ease the Pain?​

If I'm right, @oldrover is the first poster to use a gif of another poster.

 

[VectorPrime]

Brady can fourpeat in Tampa to win 10 rings for himself and then Mac can win 3 for the Pats and I STILL won’t be over Super Bowl 42.

 

[jah]

Yeah but just imagine your a fan. Your team wins say 9 straight SB's (2003 -2011 Pats). Is the 3rd straight SB win (2005 season) going to be as elating as the 3rd SB win after a 10 year drought. Especially after previous heartbreaks?

I'm just adding my thoughts on this. I don't play pro sports. I can't objectively answer of course.

I don't know. If diminishing returns on how good a Super Bowl win feels were a big factor, then I probably would have cared less by the 6th one.

 

[NormZauchin]

I still haven't got over the Ben Dreith phony roughing the passer penalty against Sugar Bear Hamilton in the 1976 playoff game against the Raiders. The Patriots would have won their first Super Bowl a quarter of a century before the arrival of Belichick and Brady.

 

[BobDigital]

Each of our loses in particular stings. The 07 still hurts and always will. 11 hurts only because we lost 07. To lose to the giants twice hurts. If we had won 07 I could have just shrugged it off. For a super bowl loss anyway. For 17 it hurts because we sjould have won. And lost with Brady having the best game a QB has ever had in that game due to hubris and personal reasons. While Butler was no longer the player he was before, you'll never convince me sitting him was the best thing for the defense.

I would gladly change that loss for the second rams win.

 

[farn]

(deep breath for the necessary 37 disclaimers here)


Yes, holding happens on almost every play in the NFL and goes uncalled. Yes, on any one play where holding does get called, there probably could have been four or five other holding calls that don’t get called. And yes, you really, REALLY don’t want a ticky-tack, “Really, bro??” call to decide any game, much less a playoff game, a championship game, or the biggest sporting event in America that should be a holiday already, the Super Bowl.


Ok, now, with THAT all out of the way, usually if you are going to hold a defensive lineman, you don’t hold them by their throat.


But buried deep in a click-baity “19-0 sounds crazy, just not with this Patriots team” article from The WorldWide Leader in Paying Billions for the College Football Playoff and then wondering why we don’t have any money, we finally get confirmation from the man himself that Giants center Shaun O’Hara was choking out Richard Seymour on Eli’s scramble before Eli wound up and Brett Favre’d it downfield, and....well, you know.



Let’s let O’Hara tell it!

I remember seeing Green bust through and getting up in excitement. The ref would surely call the play dead and it was over. They had done it…

 

[Ryan]

The way I look at it is we won SIX Super Bowls. That is insane. So we lost a few along the way. We still won SIX. At the time losing 42, 46, and 52 hurt but in the grand scheme of things, I have very little heartbreak over those losses, and what heartbreak I do have is all for 42.

 

[lancerman]

It’s kinda hard to complain about winning 6 out of 9 even if one of them was particularly brutal. I mean look at the teams we played we ruined the Rams and Seahawks chance to have the all time GSOT and LOB regarded as a dynasty and probably hurt some HOF candidacies along the way. Seattle basically fell apart and crumpled after the loss on the INT was so scrutinized. The Falcons even 5 years later have a permanent mark on their franchise that is utterly humiliating and is probably going to be the primary reason Ryan won’t make the HOF. Even the Eagles who got their magical 2017 still know that their amazing team in the early 2000’s missed out on their best chance courtesy of us.

It was different when we hadn’t won for 10 years and SB 42 was the most relevant thing we had been apart of in that time frame.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Nothing will ever ease the pain of missing out on 19-0 for me, especially that last Giants drive. I say this out of my love for the Pats as well as my strong dislike of Shula.

 

[Delicate Genius]

What does 2016 make up for. 2015?

2016 was a giant FU to Goodell for Brady's suspension at the beginning of the season.

 

[NFL Mystique]

He needs to pass Montana first lol Long way to go for that

Nothing will ever ease the pain of missing out on 19-0 for me, especially that last Giants drive. I say this out of my love for the Pats as well as my strong dislike of Shula.

Yeah I can see that.

Things were a few seconds/inches away from being different on a few different occasions.

1. The near pick. If there's one or two more seconds more to time it, the game is over immediately.

2. Not calling holding on the Giants before the helmet catch. One or two more seconds and the flags come out. Or Eli gets sacked.

3. The final Patriots drive. The 70 yard in the air pass to Moss. If that ball is maybe an inch more in front of him, he possibly catches it. And worst case scenario is a FG attempt to tie. A FG which may not have been necessary had that crazy 4th and 12th decision not been made.

In the end though, the best offense in football was trying to air the ball out like their opponent was the Bills. That was a bad day for the coaches. QB wasn't great but nobody talks about his day if the helmet catch doesn't happen.

Guess that's life though. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't.

 

[NFL Mystique]

So from this thread I've got:

SB 53 making up for SB 52
SB 51 making up for the suspension
SB 49 making up for SB 46

Nothing making up for SB 42

What if the Pats went 20-0 in say 2023 or 2024. Would that make up for SB 42? Or was that such a special season with an all time great (Brady) that it's not possible to amend the loss?

 

[sb1]

Pats had to win XLIX to make up for all of those plus cement Bill's and Brady's legacy and put Spygate in the rear view mirror.

 

[Nikolai]

So from this thread I've got:

SB 53 making up for SB 52
SB 51 making up for the suspension
SB 49 making up for SB 46

Nothing making up for SB 42

What if the Pats went 20-0 in say 2023 or 2024. Would that make up for SB 42? Or was that such a special season with an all time great (Brady) that it's not possible to amend the loss?

20-0 would do it for me to a degree. But the run in 07 was special because that whole season was a **** you to Goodell and the NFL world...

 

[RobertWeathers]

Nothing will ever ease the pain of missing out on 19-0 for me, especially that last Giants drive. I say this out of my love for the Pats as well as my strong dislike of Shula.

Yep.

Losing 46 and 52 sucked but I'm not scarred by it.

Losing 42 left permanent damage

 

[venecol]

Assuming both teams stay healthy, I think this will be the first Super Bowl rematch since the Cowboys vs Bills.

Since? More like ever. So rare it only happened once. I don't see it happening. Either one of these teams could miss going to SB but my money is on KC suffering the mythical SB hangover.

 

[Kdo5]

Games like 28-3 and the Malcolm Butler INT are things that I’m not sure I would trade for 19-0. Those were some epic epic moments.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

It was different when we hadn’t won for 10 years and SB 42 was the most relevant thing we had been apart of in that time frame.

Man being old puts this in perspective.

The rhythm pre-BB/pre-Brady was:

Phase 1: Can we ever get out of the first round of the playoffs? Shhh you'll jinx it, just be happy it's a year we're in the playoffs.
Phase 2: We made a SB. Do we dare think we'll win it? No? Ok.
Phase 3: We made another SB. It is a new day. We appear in the SB every 10 years! Woo hoo! Still can't win one... ok, baby steps.

Then came Phase 4: All your Lombardis are belong to us. Somewhere in the middle there between Dynasty Part 1 and Part 2 it took us a whole 10 years to win a SB, we just appeared in them. Very substandard.