OT: Did the Bucs SB loss Break Patrick Mahomes?

[Guts]

Brady has had exactly one debacle of a playoff loss and that was the 2009 wildcard game against the Ravens when the entire team was either dead or malcontent and no one cared. Mahomes already has two.

2010 was pretty bad too

 

[amfootball]

If you cant understand what I am trying to say (particularly after your 2015 AFCCG comments) then you shouldnt be here.

 

[venecol]

-I'll give you SB 52. The defense was the main culprit in the game, even though Brady's strip sack (with a wide open James White) ended all hope of a Patriots win. But here are a few more:

-Two picks vs Seattle in SB 49 (to jeremy lane and bobby wagner)

-Pick 6 vs Atlanta in SB 51 (to robert alford)

-INT in end zone vs Carolina in SB 38 with 7 minutes remaining in 4th quarter

-INT vs NYG in SB 46 (to chase blackburn)

-Intentional grounding vs NYG in SB 46

Also, who do you suppose leads the NFL in playoff interceptions thrown? Bottom line is Brady has made a lot of clutch plays but has also made a number of blunders in the playoffs.

If you want to relive all of Brady's super bowl INTs, here ya go...

In 3 of your examples Brady's clutch performance allowed them to win.

 

[Bruins29]

Everyone, let Mac10 think what he wants. He is never going to change his mind. It dosent matter. He can think they are co-goats or whatever. He dosent have to concede that but he does have to concede that probably 95% of sports fans and writers and players, and ex players disagree with him

I am sure there are plenty of Bay Area peeps who still think JM is the GOAT. And I am sure some Cheese Heads think Rogers is the GOAT.

 

[venecol]

-I'll give you SB 52. The defense was the main culprit in the game, even though Brady's strip sack (with a wide open James White) ended all hope of a Patriots win. But here are a few more:

-Two picks vs Seattle in SB 49 (to jeremy lane and bobby wagner)

-Pick 6 vs Atlanta in SB 51 (to robert alford)

-INT in end zone vs Carolina in SB 38 with 7 minutes remaining in 4th quarter

-INT vs NYG in SB 46 (to chase blackburn)

-Intentional grounding vs NYG in SB 46

Also, who do you suppose leads the NFL in playoff interceptions thrown? Bottom line is Brady has made a lot of clutch plays but has also made a number of blunders in the playoffs.

If you want to relive all of Brady's super bowl INTs, here ya go...

I'll watch your 3 min. video of his interceptions if you watch the 2+ hour video of every TD.

 

[venecol]

Joe Cool himself on Brady being the GOAT. 2:10 mark

 

[PatsWSB47]

Delete

 

[PatsWSB47]

Do you want me to list Brady's super bowl mistakes?

I know you want to. Funny how you have all his negative plays ready to post about. Who does that beside you? Look it. Either you don't get it or you choose to ignore it. The reason Brady stands alone as the GOAT isn't because hes never made mistakes, it's because of what he does in clutch situations more that anyone else ever has. I remember praising Brady for his 3 3and 10s he had beating the Cheifs. You felt compelled to reply in TommyBrady12 fashion that he was only 3 or 4 for 7 on that drive. LMAO. Get lost with your disingenuous "intelligent discussion" invitations. Im sorry but any discussion you get in regarding Brady can't be intelligent. You have too much mocking and trolling him in the past 2 plus years to be taken seriously. You can't pretend. It's all in your posting history.

 

[rochrist]

Yeah who can forget Ty Law locking down Owens during that impressive defensive performance by the Pats in that Eagles Super Bowl. Oh wait he wasn’t playing because he went on IR 3 months earlier and TO went off for 100+ yards and a TD.

Oh but Adam kicked the game winner in Super Bowl 38. You know, after going 0 for 2 earlier in the game. Not to mention the Pats defense collapsing and giving up nearly 30 points in the second half alone.

Yeah Butler bailed the Pats out with the pick. After the defense left Lynch wide open on a wheel route and then gave up a crazy circus catch to Kerse. They actively tried to lose the game.

Oh and who can forget Super Bowl 36 when the Pats defense went into the 4th quarter defending a 17-3 lead and proceeded to choke it all away.

Defense won the second super bowl against the Rams I’ll give them that. Brady didn’t play particularly well. He still made the throw of the game though.

Defense also certainly won the sixth.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I'll watch your 3 min. video of his interceptions if you watch the 2+ hour video of every TD.

LOL, aren't we talking about "clutchness?" And doesn't that term mean how well a player performs in big moments? If Brady doesn't throw a bunch of INTs vs Seattle and Atlanta, he doesn't need to make as large a comeback in those games.

 

[Bruins29]

I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. Twenty-six times I've been trusted to take the game-winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life.

 

[PatsWSB47]

LOL, aren't we talking about "clutchness?" And isn't that term mean how well a player performs in big moments? If he doesn't throw a bunch of INTs vs Seattle and Atlanta, he doesn't need to make as large a comeback.

But he did come back from it. Brady did. That's why he's the GOAT. Being great when he has to be. No one has done it more. That's what defines him. Not the mistakes. Jeezus. Give it up troll

 

[venecol]

LOL, aren't we talking about "clutchness?" And doesn't that term mean how well a player performs in big moments? If he doesn't throw a bunch of INTs vs Seattle and Atlanta, he doesn't need to make as large a comeback in those games.

Funny how they don't mention the ints, just 2 of the top come backs in SB history:

What are the biggest comebacks in Super Bowl history?​

Here are three of the biggest comebacks in Super Bowl history:


Super Bowl LI: New England Patriots vs. Atlanta Falcons


The Patriots were trailing the Falcons with a 25-point deficit, 28-3, with only eight minutes left to go in the third quarter. Tom Brady and his team scored on five straight drives – two of those being touchdowns – to tie the Falcons at 28, sending the Super Bowl into overtime for the first time. New England’s James White scored a touchdown in OT, capping off the jaw-dropping, 34-28 win.


Super Bowl XLIX: New England Patriots vs. Seattle Seahawks


With no points scored in the first quarter for either team, the score was tied at 14 at the end of the first half. The Patriots were 10 points behind the Seahawks at the end of the third quarter, entering the fourth facing a 24-14 deficit after a Doug Baldwin touchdown. Brady found Danny Amendola and Julian Edelman for two touchdowns in the fourth quarter, while Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson threw an unfortunate interception to Malcolm Butler, diminishing any chance at a victory. The Pats beat the Seahawks by a final score of 28-24.

Here are the Biggest Comebacks in NFL Playoff History

No lead is safe in the postseason. Here’s a look back at some of the biggest comebacks in NFL playoff history, including the Super Bowl.

www.nbcnewyork.com

 

[SHOWTIME15]

But he did come back from it. Brady did. That's why he's the GOAT. Being great when he has to be. No one has done it more. That's what defines him. Not the mistakes. Jeezus. Give it up troll

LOL

-two picks vs Seattle in SB 49 (to jeremy lane and bobby wagner)

-pick 6 vs Atlanta in SB 51 (to robert alford)

-INT in end zone vs Carolina in SB 38 with 7 minutes remaining in 4th quarter

-INT vs NYG in SB 46 (to chase blackburn)

-intentional grounding vs NYG in SB 46

-most INTs thrown in playoffs in NFL history

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Funny how they don't mention the ints, just 2 of the top come backs in SB history:

What are the biggest comebacks in Super Bowl history?​

Here are three of the biggest comebacks in Super Bowl history:


Super Bowl LI: New England Patriots vs. Atlanta Falcons


The Patriots were trailing the Falcons with a 25-point deficit, 28-3, with only eight minutes left to go in the third quarter. Tom Brady and his team scored on five straight drives – two of those being touchdowns – to tie the Falcons at 28, sending the Super Bowl into overtime for the first time. New England’s James White scored a touchdown in OT, capping off the jaw-dropping, 34-28 win.


Super Bowl XLIX: New England Patriots vs. Seattle Seahawks


With no points scored in the first quarter for either team, the score was tied at 14 at the end of the first half. The Patriots were 10 points behind the Seahawks at the end of the third quarter, entering the fourth facing a 24-14 deficit after a Doug Baldwin touchdown. Brady found Danny Amendola and Julian Edelman for two touchdowns in the fourth quarter, while Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson threw an unfortunate interception to Malcolm Butler, diminishing any chance at a victory. The Pats beat the Seahawks by a final score of 28-24.

Here are the Biggest Comebacks in NFL Playoff History

No lead is safe in the postseason. Here’s a look back at some of the biggest comebacks in NFL playoff history, including the Super Bowl.

www.nbcnewyork.com

Did you miss the pick 6 to Jeremy Lane vs Seattle in the end zone? Or how about the pick to Bobby Wagner in the red zone? If Brady scores TDs on those drives, he doesn't need to make a comeback vs Seattle.

Where were the comebacks vs NYG in the Super Bowl? Why couldn't he put the Pats in field goal range vs the Giants in SB42 with 27 seconds left and 3 timeouts? in fact he couldn't even move the ball on the last drive. All it would have taken was 3-4 dink passes.

Montana has just as many 18-1 seasons as Brady, except Joe got a ring at the end of his...

 

[PatsWSB47]

LOL

-two picks vs Seattle in SB 49 (to jeremy lane and bobby wagner)

-pick 6 vs Atlanta in SB 51 (to robert alford)

-INT in end zone vs Carolina in SB 38 with 7 minutes remaining in 4th quarter

-INT vs NYG in SB 46 (to chase blackburn)

-intentional grounding vs NYG in SB 46

-most INTs thrown in playoffs in NFL history

Ready to post right out of your "I hate Tom Brady" scrapbook. LOL at you. What a joke you are. FO

 

[PatsWSB47]

Did you miss the pick 6 to Jeremy Lane vs Seattle in the end zone? Or how about the pick to Bobby Wagner in the red zone? If Brady scores TDs on those drives, he doesn't need to make a comeback vs Seattle.

Where were the comebacks vs NYG in the Super Bowl? Why couldn't he put the Pats in field goal range vs the Giants in SB42 with 27 seconds left and 3 timeouts? in fact he couldn't even move the ball on the last drive. All it would have taken was 3-4 dink passes.

Montana has just as many 18-1 seasons as Brady, except Joe got a ring at the end of his...

Lolololololo.

 

[venecol]

Did you miss the pick 6 to Jeremy Lane vs Seattle in the end zone? Or how about the pick to Bobby Wagner in the red zone? If Brady scores TDs on those drives, he doesn't need to make a comeback vs Seattle.

Where were the comebacks vs NYG in the Super Bowl? Why couldn't he put the Pats in field goal range vs the Giants in SB42 with 27 seconds left and 3 timeouts? in fact he couldn't even move the ball on the last drive. All it would have taken was 3-4 dink passes.

Montana has just as many 18-1 seasons as Brady, except Joe got a ring at the end of his...

Do you consider Bill Belichick a liar?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Joe Cool himself on Brady being the GOAT. 2:10 mark

Do you consider Bill Belichick a liar?

Both Joe and Bill were talking about who the most accomplished player in NFL history was...Joe himself said many times it's hard to compare players across eras. For example, who's to say how well Otto Graham would do in the modern era when receivers aren't getting mugged? And Joe played under center his entire career with no coach-to-QB communication in his helmet.

 

[venecol]

Both Joe and Bill were talking about who the most accomplished player in NFL history was...Joe himself said many times it's hard to compare players across eras. For example, who's to say how well Otto Graham would do in the modern era when receivers aren't getting mugged? And Joe played under center his entire career with no coach-to-QB communication in his helmet.

Yea, that's not what Bill said.

"I am privileged to have drafted and coached Tom Brady, the ultimate competitor and winner," Belichick said in a statement. "Tom's humble beginning in professional football ultimately ended with him becoming the best player in NFL history."

The best player. Not QB. PLAYER!

Unless you think Bill is a liar, the defense rests. Case closed.