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I disagree. I think he is the best BB-type front 7 player we have had in forever.
Any team that pays Trey $18m is dumb.
Obviously, if this is true, there is no chance for the patriots to sign him.
After all, if he is better than Mcginist, Seymour, Tippett, Bruschi and all the rest, someone will pay more than we are willing to pay.
When I said in forever I essentially meant going back until that core defensive group we had during the early run. I guess I should have said best overall front 7 player in the 2010s.
Obviously, if this is true, there is no chance for the patriots to sign him.
After all, if he is better than Mcginest, Seymour, Tippett, Bruschi and all the rest, someone will pay more than we are willing to pay.
I would love to have him back at 15 APY. But if this goes into truly elite pass rusher money, I would pass if I'm BB. I don't think he views Flowers as 18M-20 type player either.
As great as Flowers is I can't imagine anyone views him as worth several million more a year than JJ Watt and/or that he is worth a contract comparable to Mack.
As great as Flowers is I can't imagine anyone views him as worth several million more a year than JJ Watt and/or that he is worth a contract comparable to Mack.
I believe this is the closest contract, and it's from 2016. Olivier Vernon for 5 years, $85M. $17M per year.
Peter King: How $85M Olivier Vernon Deal Got Done
Trey Flowers now and Olivier Vernon in 2016
Age: Vernon 25, Flowers 25
Height: Vernon 6'2", Flowers 6'2"
Weight: Vernon 270, Flowers 265
Sacks: Vernon 29 over 4 seasons (7.2 per year), Flowers 21 over 3 seasons (7.0 per year)
Pro Bowl/All-Pro: Neither had a selection, outside of analytics sites
Strengths: Both very similar with versatility as a pass rusher, run stopper, being able to rush inside and outside, high motor and seemingly near the ball on every play. Both do a lot better on more advanced analytic sites and generate a lot of pressures, though they aren't league leaders in traditional categories like sacks.
The J-E-T-E it is then.Any team that pays Trey $18m is dumb.
It really comes down to guaranteed money. You look at Malcolm Butlers contract do you think he will get past this season? So sure it looks like a 5 year, $61M deal but it will end up being a 2 year, $25M deal. The Patriots have more players play out their contracts than a lot of teams.Hate to say it.
Someone is gonna give Flowers a lot of money. Like 15+ million per year. And the Pats aren't gonna come close to matching that.
What are the Pats options? Is it possible to tag him and then trade him so the Pats at least to get something in return? What's the back up plan if/when Flowers walks?
Yeah Detroit won’t want to let those 4 sacks he put up last year slip away.Ziggy Ansah should be Franchised.
IF Flowers is the best DE on the market this have to be one of the weakest FA DE markets in years. Well kinda similar to last years with Adrian Clayborn. I would caution buyer beware. Yes Flowers have age on his side but he has never had a double digit sack season or seasons. And I don't want to hear sacks are overrated.
except they completely destroy drives.But they are overrated.
except they completely destroy drives.
When I said in forever I essentially meant going back until that core defensive group we had during the early run. I guess I should have said best overall front 7 player in the 2010s.
.His value is his versatility in the various schemes they employ, and if it’s a reasonable market deal they can re-sign him. But if a team goes overboard they won’t match it, ultimately it comes down to guaranteed money, and they have the ability to give him a good deal in terms of guarantees. If he is willing to sign for 4/60/35 guaranteed I think it will get done. If he wants 80+ then he’s gone.