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  1. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    OFFENSE

    1)It's not about play calling. It's not about Brady. It's not even about the running backs.

    2)The OL is awful. We need Wynn to return, and we need a healthy Mason.

    3) And believe it or not, it would help to have our backup TE's healthy.

    4) The defense needs to get better in run defense, but more to the point, we need to get better at defending against the pistol formation. Thankfully, Jackson plays this more than the rest of the league put together.

    5) For me, there are better QB's than Jackson. On the other hand, I think that we have a better chance against KC or HOU.


     
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  2. PatsGirl2011

    PatsGirl2011 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Moreso Brady likes to force it to players he like.
     
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  3. Vindicate

    Vindicate Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    It's tumbling-down-to-earth moments like this game that make you appreciate in absolute awe what the 2007 Patriots accomplished. Yeah, yeah, it's all about the SB. But the 07 Pats did what the Pats couldn't do tonight, for a full season, against a schedule that was pretty damn difficult.


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    What's hurting the run game more, the o-line or the TE situation? Genuinely asking, as I'm not knowledgeable enough to make such a diagnosis.

    If I went with gut, I might say TE? Seemed like when we started using Gronk as a blocker more last season, specifically towards the end of the season, our run game really shined. But there may be regular season production I'm forgetting.
     
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  4. BradytoMosstoGronk

    BradytoMosstoGronk Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Bethel impressed the hell out of me too. Sanu fitting in well. I hope harry can carve out a role - Edelman and Sanu, then the weapons fall off a cliff (WR, white is always a threat). Dorsett is fine, having to rely on him isnt a good thing.

    I expect another poor outing this year, still think they go 14-2, which I'd be more than satisfied with.

    **** happens, Ravens came to play and we didnt. If we see them again, itll be in foxboro and Jackson wont play this well.
     
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  5. NYCPATS4LIFE

    NYCPATS4LIFE Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Iggles get a BYE as well so we won’t have any type of advantage.
     
  6. slash83

    slash83 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    But we have a humiliated and pissed off team looking to kick ass in 2 weeks.
     
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  7. NYCPATS4LIFE

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    Hope so. These guys got dominated in the trenches.
     
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  8. Keyser Söze

    Keyser Söze In the Starting Line-Up

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    Honestly, the constant “Boogeymen” crap from our defensive players was getting a bit annoying. They beat crap qb after crap qb and thought they could just show up last night and win. I hope BB knocks them down a peg.
     
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  9. scout

    scout Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    Soon you'll hook up to the bandwagon. I wonder how many dislikes you will get be your comment of "Bunch of Clowns"?
     
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  10. KontradictioN

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    The thing that sucked so much about this game is that the Patriots had the momentum until Edelman fumbled it. After that, the Ravens never looked back.
     
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  11. TommyBrady12

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    Sure but we still can't stop the RPO...
     
  12. TommyBrady12

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    The defense might be a bit overrated, but only because everyone's comparing them to the 85 Bears.
     
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    I'm excited to see this offense with Wynn back and hopefully get something from Harry. Sanu is already producing like another Edelman. Dorsett makes his catches when called upon. White is still a stud. We ran the ball well too last night and Wynn will help even more. It has the makings of a dangerous unit to go along with an already elite defense + special teams coverage.
     
  14. robertweathers

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    For anyone who has some spare time, its worth watching the Bears/LOLfins MNF game from 85.

    They hung 38 offensive points on da Bears. They spread em out and picked them apart with quick passes.

    Matchups, matchups, matchups....
     
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  15. PatsFan2

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    And our next Four Opponents runs the RPO very well our poor Boogie D.:oops:
     
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    Yep and unfortunately this defense’s main weakness, going back to last season now, is teams that attack them with a power running game. That’s Baltimore. Ingram and Jackson just tore us up. Strangely, we had more success stopping them when we attacked them with amoeba personnel up front on defense.
     
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  17. Brick27

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    Wasn’t paying too specific of attention to Shelton/Guy and what they did or didn’t do in defending the run. Haven’t rewatched yet, but maybe someone else who’s done so could give their take on it?

    A lot of good holes inside for Ingram last night and it looked like Marshal Yanda had a big role in that. Quality IOL play will continue in upcoming games against Philly (Kelce and Brooks) and Dallas (Frederick and Martin). Something to keep an eye for sure given the challenges the Pats have had with stopping the run in recent weeks.
     
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  18. PatsFan2

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    Philly have Big Strong OL and a Two Headed monster at RB Pats have couple of weeks to figure it out.
     
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  19. RIpats88

    RIpats88 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Really though for all the whining. We are an edelman fumble from tying the game and putting all the pressure on the ravens.

    AND

    We are an edelman fumble + offsides on a field goal from probably being ahead at that point. Football is a game of momentum and the fumble return for a TD and the offsides penalty killed them
     
  20. NYCPATS4LIFE

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    I never thought that was the momentum play. Pats came back and score a td. The offense was moving and the ravens defense looked gassed. Next ravens possession they take it down the field and make it 30-20. There’s your game. A chance to stop them on 3rd down and 5 and they give up 18 to mark Andrews. That was one of the worse drives for this defense.
     

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