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[mayoclinic]

Patriots scouting report: Marcus Bryant is leading the depth OT competition

Previewing the Patriots offensive tackle heading into his second NFL season.

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[captain stone]

Patriots scouting report: Marcus Bryant is leading the depth OT competition

Previewing the Patriots offensive tackle heading into his second NFL season.

www.patspulpit.com

I prefer Crownover's upside; but TC should decide the matter one way or another... I can also envision a 53-man roster that includes both of them, with Lomu serving as the de facto OG3...

 

[n1997y]

I prefer Crownover's upside; but TC should decide the matter one way or another... I can also envision a 53-man roster that includes both of them, with Lomu serving as the de facto OG3...

What exactly is Crownover’s upside advantage over Bryant, in your opinion? Other than he is new and shiny as this year’s rookie not last year’s.

 

[p8ryts]

What exactly is Crownover’s upside advantage over Bryant, in your opinion? Other than he is new and shiny as this year’s rookie not last year’s.

Bryant was surpassed by Mumford. Hoping for more from Crownover. I thought early in the season Bryant might have an impact before the year was out. He didn't.

 

[PatsFan2]

Bryant was surpassed by Mumford. Hoping for more from Crownover. I thought early in the season Bryant might have an impact before the year was out. He didn't.

M Bryant was a Rookie; Mumford had experience last year. I would like to see sophomore Bryant with a year of NFL seasoning under his belt.

 

[mayoclinic]

What exactly is Crownover’s upside advantage over Bryant, in your opinion? Other than he is new and shiny as this year’s rookie not last year’s.

There may be none, but Bryant was considered a UDFA who the Pats took in the 7th and did nothing as a rookie; Crownover was considered a 4th round pick by many, generally considered to have more upside.

No idea how it will sort out, if either develops we are in good shape.

 

[JoeSixPat]

What exactly is Crownover’s upside advantage over Bryant, in your opinion? Other than he is new and shiny as this year’s rookie not last year’s.

Physically they're pretty similar but Bryant, while making the roster, only played a few snaps and kindof underwhelmed and was a healthy scratch towards the end - he was projected to be the backup swing tackle. He played LT in college but when we needed a backup for Campbell they went with Lowe

So he did little to make us think he locked that down last year, as many of us felt that RT/Swing Tackle was a priority going into the draft, as did the team who went with Lomu.

It's still good to see him getting better camp grades as he didn't look great in the short stint he filled in for Moses.

It all depends on how many OTs they keep on the roster but I'd rather have him than Metz, Guttierez or Hudson as while they technically have more experience, they're also pushing 30 and haven't been able to break through to NFL backup status yet, so I'd think any of them can be snuck through to the PS (Metz is huge at 6'9" which is why I think he's been able to stick around in the NFL, but if he or the others haven't progressed yet they probably won't

I think Bryant gets one of the last roster spots after Crownover

 

[n1997y]

M Bryant was a Rookie; Mumford had experience last year. I would like to see sophomore Bryant with a year of NFL seasoning under his belt.

Exactly. I saw Mumford as a tactical move, for the short term during the season. Bryant was a rookie development project. Mumford was a veteran journeyman who had already played two seasons for McDaniels with the Raiders. Bryant and Mumford are at different points in their careers, so Mumford playing over Bryant is not a big significant indicator of Bryant’s future.

Reason I’m interested in this is that I have often seen this board get excited about rookies who are clearly developmental projects when they first join the team, and then a year later giving up on them because they did not do anything noteworthy in their first year. What’s a reasonable time to give a developmental prospect for his development?

 

[n1997y]

Physically they're pretty similar but Bryant, while making the roster, only played a few snaps and kindof underwhelmed and was a healthy scratch towards the end - he was projected to be the backup swing tackle. He played LT in college but when we needed a backup for Campbell they went with Lowe

Bryant was a developmental rookie, late round pick. Lowe was a veteran in his third season with the Patriots who had started 13 out of 14 games the previous season. Yet Lowe playing ahead of Bryant makes Bryant “underwhelming”?

I think there is an unrealistic expectation for developmental players to develop more quickly than their skills and abilities allow. Face it, if Bryant had the skills and abilities to displace last year’s starter from the backup role he’d not be a late round developmental pick, he’d be picked in an earlier round and competing for a bigger role from the start of camp.

I’m expecting that next year Crownover will be getting the same treatment from this board, unless he locks down a role that garners a lot of playing time this season by next year everyone will be talking about the new guy and consigning Crownover to perpetual mediocrity.

So he did little to make us think he locked that down last year, as many of us felt that RT/Swing Tackle was a priority going into the draft, as did the team who went with Lomu.

It's still good to see him getting better camp grades as he didn't look great in the short stint he filled in for Moses.

It is always good to see signs a developmental prospect is developing.

It all depends on how many OTs they keep on the roster but I'd rather have him than Metz, Guttierez or Hudson as while they technically have more experience, they're also pushing 30 and haven't been able to break through to NFL backup status yet, so I'd think any of them can be snuck through to the PS (Metz is huge at 6'9" which is why I think he's been able to stick around in the NFL, but if he or the others haven't progressed yet they probably won't

Do they get any exemption for Metz as an international player? His size is impressive.

I think Bryant gets one of the last roster spots after Crownover

It’s going to be an interesting competition. Steel sharpens steel.

 

[captain stone]

What exactly is Crownover’s upside advantage over Bryant, in your opinion? Other than he is new and shiny as this year’s rookie not last year’s.

Crownover's likely a better athlete, based mostly on Bryant not testing, at all, during his pro day. He wasn't even measured except for height/weight... Crownover's more likely to fall in-line with the coaches' vision for their RT of the Future if it's not Lomu, which I don't think it will be... And from the relatively little I've seen of him, his movement skills do seem to recall his days as a TE... Bryant on the other hand is 9 full months younger than Crownover; so let's see what he's learned this offseason...

 

[captain stone]

...Do they get any exemption for Metz as an international player? His size is impressive...

Not during the regular season; that could be just a training camp-practice squad thing, but I'm not totally sure of the details...

 

[mgteich]

Not during the regular season; that could be just a training camp-practice squad thing, but I'm not totally sure of the details...

During the season, we are granted on international player as our 17th Practice Squad player. This player can be eklevated to the 53 a maximum of three times during the season.

 

[DaBruinz]

Not during the regular season; that could be just a training camp-practice squad thing, but I'm not totally sure of the details...

They DO get a practice squad exemption for Metz during the regular season.

 

[PatsFan2]

Exactly. I saw Mumford as a tactical move, for the short term during the season. Bryant was a rookie development project. Mumford was a veteran journeyman who had already played two seasons for McDaniels with the Raiders. Bryant and Mumford are at different points in their careers, so Mumford playing over Bryant is not a big significant indicator of Bryant’s future.

Reason I’m interested in this is that I have often seen this board get excited about rookies who are clearly developmental projects when they first join the team, and then a year later giving up on them because they did not do anything noteworthy in their first year. What’s a reasonable time to give a developmental prospect for his development?

Three years! even though I have seen enough of Caedan Wallace in two years to conclude he's not an NFL Athlete. How he fooled Wolf in the Draft process is nothing short of a miracle...enormous REACH there.

 

[n1997y]

Three years! even though I have seen enough of Caedan Wallace in two years to conclude he's not an NFL Athlete. How he fooled Wolf in the Draft process is nothing short of a miracle...enormous REACH there.

IIRC Wallace was drafted as OT and last year was trying to move inside to OG. He showed enough to still be here this year, but will be interesting to see how he fares in camp. I think G is more of a concern than T atm so if he’s got any chance that might be it.

 

[PatsFan2]

IIRC Wallace was drafted as OT and last year was trying to move inside to OG. He showed enough to still be here this year, but will be interesting to see how he fares in camp. I think G is more of a concern than T atm so if he’s got any chance that might be it.

He hasn't shown Jack **** he was Inactive for every game last year. Also Benny Brown is ahead of him: if they had any real hopes for Wallace they wouldn't have signed that MASH unit from the Jets. Did I say Caedan Wallace sucks??

 

[DaBruinz]

He hasn't showed Jack **** he was Inactive for every game last year. Also Benny Brown is ahead of him: if they had real hopes for Wallace they wouldn't have signed that MASH unit from the Jets. Did I say Caedan Wallace sucks??

Why do you insist on blathering BS that is easily debunked?

He may not have taken any offensive snaps except for week 17 against the Jets, but he took special teams snaps in 4 games from weeks 13-17.

Teams need more than 1 Back-up Interior O-lineman. So, just because Ben Brown is ahead of Wallace, doesn't mean there isn't another spot that needs to be filled.

 

[TheRainMaker]

He hasn't showed Jack **** he was Inactive for every game last year. Also Benny Brown is ahead of him: if they had real hopes for Wallace they wouldn't have signed that MASH unit from the Jets. Did I say Caedan Wallace sucks??

Only people with too much time on their hands care about or even defend Wallace. They clearly haven't seen the trend for NE draft picks in the last 26 years now. It wouldn't shock me if his ass is cut.

 

[DaBruinz]

Only people with too much time on their hands care about or even defend Wallace. They clearly haven't seen the trend for NE draft picks in the last 26 years now. It wouldn't shock me if his ass is cut.

There is a difference between defending Wallace and point out ignorant posts. Something you still haven't learned despite years on this board.

Wallace may be cut. He may not be. Only Camp will tell. Clearly Vrabel, McDaniels and Marrone felt he showed enough to warrant another full camp. They're the ones who will make the final decision.

 

[PatsFan2]

Only people with too much time on their hands care about or even defend Wallace. They clearly haven't seen the trend for NE draft picks in the last 26 years now. It wouldn't shock me if his ass is cut.

You know if we didn't Draft him they would say he Sucks and he's a bust. Flip the script and he's the second coming. I'm wondering why is he still on the Team?? Wallace doesn't even deserve a Taxi squad spot yeah he's that bad.


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