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Good article to get everyone ready for tonight by Lazur....10 players to watch in this game:

Here are ten players to watch in preseason game number two:

1. WR N’Keal Harry​

The former first-round pick will top our preview list all summer long. Harry is stringing together good days at practice, with two strong ones in Philly. The 6-foot-3 wideout caught a ~25-yard touchdown from Mac Jones at the end of Monday’s session, streaking down the left sideline. The touchdown in team drills came after Harry went 3-0 in one-on-ones, and he then used his large frame effectively in Tuesday’s red-zone heavy practice by making himself big in-between zone defenders. At some point, Harry’s practice performance needs to show up on game day. It didn’t happen against Washington, but he’ll get another chance on Thursday night.

2. EDGE Chase Winovich​

Winovich returned to practice this week after landing on the active/PUP list for the first 12 practices. The promising Winovich was once tabbed a premier young player on the team, but issues setting the edge of the defense saw him fall out of favor last season. Now, Winovich is late to the party at a position where the Pats added Matt Judon, Kyle Van Noy, and Ronnie Perkins this offseason (plus Josh Uche in 2020). There’s a lot of competition at outside linebacker, and questions remain about Winovich’s fit in Belichick’s defense. If the 2019 third-round pick doesn’t hit the ground running, Winovich might be a surprise trade candidate.

3. TE Devin Asiasi​

Asiasi is a lone wolf. Hunter Henry, Jonnu Smith, and Matt LaCosse are unlikely to suit up, while the team released Troy Fumagalli with an injury designation to get down to 85 players by Tuesday’s deadline. The good news is that Fumagalli’s release signals that Henry and Smith aren’t dealing with serious injuries. A source described the dynamic TE duo by saying that Henry and Smith could play if it were a meaningful regular-season game. As for Asiasi, he is still getting his footing after landing on the COVID list to start camp. He flashes abilities as a receiver by threatening defenses up the seam and is a solid run blocker. However, Asiasi’s hands are sometimes shaky, and he still makes an occasional mistake in his route running. The injury bug at tight end is a good opportunity for Asiasi to get live game reps and show his worth.

4. CB Joejuan Williams​

One positive development for the Pats over the last week is the emergence of third-year corner Joejuan Williams. Williams still needs to do a little more before we say the light officially came on, but he earned starter reps with a solid preseason opener and didn’t look out of place in joint practices. The Pats’ CB had a nice PBU on speedster Jalen Reagor up the left sideline and contested another pass in the end zone. Williams playing outside also frees up Jalen Mills to move inside the formation, where he’ll play once Stephon Gilmore returns. The puzzle pieces make more sense with Williams at outside corner and Mills inside, while the Pats need one of their depth CBs to emerge. Maybe Williams is finally becoming that guy.

5. WR Kristian Wilkerson​

The Kristian Wilkerson hype train is screeching to a halt. After a great start to camp, Wilkerson is suddenly dropping everything. He had three drops in the joint practices, two of which were easily catchable balls. Wilkerson is still getting open, but creating separation isn’t as appealing if you can’t finish the play. He is trending towards a development player that could end up on the practice squad. Earlier in camp, Wilkerson looked like a legit contributor, which is still possible if he eliminates the drops.

6. DT Christian Barmore​

New England’s second-round pick will likely make his preseason debut on Thursday night after sitting out the opener. Barmore was a full participant in joint practices and had a very good summer before the toe/foot issue. The Alabama product brings some juice and versatility to the defensive line. Barmore is a pass-rushing threat on the interior of the line, with the potential to round out his game into a three-down player. Lawrence Guy, and Davon Godchaux, among others, play their roles extremely well on the defensive front. But Barmore has the game-changing talent to make splash plays as an interior rusher. The Patriots need that juice.

7. DL Henry Anderson​

Another sneaky storyline that came out of last Thursday night’s preseason game was veteran Henry Anderson playing into the second half. Anderson looks good in practice, especially during one-on-one drills, but it’s usually not a good indication when a seven-year vet plays in the second half of the first preseason game. Anderson was an easy free-agent target to project due to his heavy playing style and versatility. However, it wouldn’t be the first time a defensive lineman with an NFL pedigree didn’t catch onto New England’s system (Mike Pennel, Michael Bennett, etc.). We aren’t in surprise cut candidate territory yet, but if Anderson is buried on the depth chart again this week, the seat is starting to heat up.

8. S Adrian Colbert​

Colbert was banged up in the early portion of camp, but he practiced this week and is another under-the-radar vet who had solid tape with the Giants a year ago. On Tuesday, Colbert got a few opportunities when Kyle Dugger and Adrian Phillips were struggling with the Eagles’ tight ends. Plus, he is drinking the New England kool-aid, all the way down to praising the strength and conditioning program for getting him in the best shape of his life.

9. K Quinn Nordin​

New England’s kicker competition isn’t quite the same because the Patriots didn’t draft Nordin. Still, the Nordin hype due to his ridiculous leg strength reminds me of the brief punter battle between reigning All-Pro Jake Bailey and then-incumbent Ryan Allen. Allen was coming off an outstanding Super Bowl performance, but Bailey came into minicamp his rookie season and was booming punts. Allen didn’t report right away, but he came in to compete a few days into minicamp. The Patriots cut Allen shortly after that because Bailey was so good. Again, it’s not a perfect comparison, but it feels like Nordin is stealing Folk’s job while the 36-year-old vet is hurt. The undrafted rookie made all three of his kicks in Tuesday’s practice, and there was a moment where the referees standing under the goalposts looked at the kick sail through in awe. I’ve never seen refs look that impressed by how far a kick traveled.

10. DB Justin Bethel​

When we did our third 53-man roster projection, Bethel was listed under special teams in the “coverage specialists” category. However, Bethel was decent in the opener at outside corner and is getting more looks there in practice. Earlier in his career, Bethel was a rotational cornerback that played 43 percent of the defensive snaps in 2017 with Arizona. He wasn’t always exclusively a special teams player, and with few options at outside CB, Bethel could play a little on defense if he’s their best depth option.
 
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Good article to get everyone ready for tonight by Lazur....10 players to watch in this game:

Here are ten players to watch in preseason game number two:

1. WR N’Keal Harry​

The former first-round pick will top our preview list all summer long. Harry is stringing together good days at practice, with two strong ones in Philly. The 6-foot-3 wideout caught a ~25-yard touchdown from Mac Jones at the end of Monday’s session, streaking down the left sideline. The touchdown in team drills came after Harry went 3-0 in one-on-ones, and he then used his large frame effectively in Tuesday’s red-zone heavy practice by making himself big in-between zone defenders. At some point, Harry’s practice performance needs to show up on game day. It didn’t happen against Washington, but he’ll get another chance on Thursday night.

2. EDGE Chase Winovich​

Winovich returned to practice this week after landing on the active/PUP list for the first 12 practices. The promising Winovich was once tabbed a premier young player on the team, but issues setting the edge of the defense saw him fall out of favor last season. Now, Winovich is late to the party at a position where the Pats added Matt Judon, Kyle Van Noy, and Ronnie Perkins this offseason (plus Josh Uche in 2020). There’s a lot of competition at outside linebacker, and questions remain about Winovich’s fit in Belichick’s defense. If the 2019 third-round pick doesn’t hit the ground running, Winovich might be a surprise trade candidate.

3. TE Devin Asiasi​

Asiasi is a lone wolf. Hunter Henry, Jonnu Smith, and Matt LaCosse are unlikely to suit up, while the team released Troy Fumagalli with an injury designation to get down to 85 players by Tuesday’s deadline. The good news is that Fumagalli’s release signals that Henry and Smith aren’t dealing with serious injuries. A source described the dynamic TE duo by saying that Henry and Smith could play if it were a meaningful regular-season game. As for Asiasi, he is still getting his footing after landing on the COVID list to start camp. He flashes abilities as a receiver by threatening defenses up the seam and is a solid run blocker. However, Asiasi’s hands are sometimes shaky, and he still makes an occasional mistake in his route running. The injury bug at tight end is a good opportunity for Asiasi to get live game reps and show his worth.

4. CB Joejuan Williams​

One positive development for the Pats over the last week is the emergence of third-year corner Joejuan Williams. Williams still needs to do a little more before we say the light officially came on, but he earned starter reps with a solid preseason opener and didn’t look out of place in joint practices. The Pats’ CB had a nice PBU on speedster Jalen Reagor up the left sideline and contested another pass in the end zone. Williams playing outside also frees up Jalen Mills to move inside the formation, where he’ll play once Stephon Gilmore returns. The puzzle pieces make more sense with Williams at outside corner and Mills inside, while the Pats need one of their depth CBs to emerge. Maybe Williams is finally becoming that guy.

5. WR Kristian Wilkerson​

The Kristian Wilkerson hype train is screeching to a halt. After a great start to camp, Wilkerson is suddenly dropping everything. He had three drops in the joint practices, two of which were easily catchable balls. Wilkerson is still getting open, but creating separation isn’t as appealing if you can’t finish the play. He is trending towards a development player that could end up on the practice squad. Earlier in camp, Wilkerson looked like a legit contributor, which is still possible if he eliminates the drops.

6. DT Christian Barmore​

New England’s second-round pick will likely make his preseason debut on Thursday night after sitting out the opener. Barmore was a full participant in joint practices and had a very good summer before the toe/foot issue. The Alabama product brings some juice and versatility to the defensive line. Barmore is a pass-rushing threat on the interior of the line, with the potential to round out his game into a three-down player. Lawrence Guy, and Davon Godchaux, among others, play their roles extremely well on the defensive front. But Barmore has the game-changing talent to make splash plays as an interior rusher. The Patriots need that juice.

7. DL Henry Anderson​

Another sneaky storyline that came out of last Thursday night’s preseason game was veteran Henry Anderson playing into the second half. Anderson looks good in practice, especially during one-on-one drills, but it’s usually not a good indication when a seven-year vet plays in the second half of the first preseason game. Anderson was an easy free-agent target to project due to his heavy playing style and versatility. However, it wouldn’t be the first time a defensive lineman with an NFL pedigree didn’t catch onto New England’s system (Mike Pennel, Michael Bennett, etc.). We aren’t in surprise cut candidate territory yet, but if Anderson is buried on the depth chart again this week, the seat is starting to heat up.

8. S Adrian Colbert​

Colbert was banged up in the early portion of camp, but he practiced this week and is another under-the-radar vet who had solid tape with the Giants a year ago. On Tuesday, Colbert got a few opportunities when Kyle Dugger and Adrian Phillips were struggling with the Eagles’ tight ends. Plus, he is drinking the New England kool-aid, all the way down to praising the strength and conditioning program for getting him in the best shape of his life.

9. K Quinn Nordin​

New England’s kicker competition isn’t quite the same because the Patriots didn’t draft Nordin. Still, the Nordin hype due to his ridiculous leg strength reminds me of the brief punter battle between reigning All-Pro Jake Bailey and then-incumbent Ryan Allen. Allen was coming off an outstanding Super Bowl performance, but Bailey came into minicamp his rookie season and was booming punts. Allen didn’t report right away, but he came in to compete a few days into minicamp. The Patriots cut Allen shortly after that because Bailey was so good. Again, it’s not a perfect comparison, but it feels like Nordin is stealing Folk’s job while the 36-year-old vet is hurt. The undrafted rookie made all three of his kicks in Tuesday’s practice, and there was a moment where the referees standing under the goalposts looked at the kick sail through in awe. I’ve never seen refs look that impressed by how far a kick traveled.

10. DB Justin Bethel​

When we did our third 53-man roster projection, Bethel was listed under special teams in the “coverage specialists” category. However, Bethel was decent in the opener at outside corner and is getting more looks there in practice. Earlier in his career, Bethel was a rotational cornerback that played 43 percent of the defensive snaps in 2017 with Arizona. He wasn’t always exclusively a special teams player, and with few options at outside CB, Bethel could play a little on defense if he’s their best depth option.
Great list. Excited to see Barmore and Wino back in there. I expect nothing from Asiasi at this point, so anything would be a bonus.

I hope Williams continues to look good, because Mills has to be on the inside...but not too good, because without Gilmore, this team has a huge hole.

Harry can't show up if they don't throw him the ball. he wins 1-v-1's because they throw him the ball. Even if they won't take those contested shots in the regular season, they should do it now for trade purposes...which is really kind of pathetic and a stain on the Pats drafting. There's no surprise here.

Truly frustrating.

I'll add a 11 to the list: Stevenson. his progression, play-time, might mean a lot come the cut-downs/trades, etc.

EDIT: And Agholor. Excited to see him in action. Very important piece.
 
Good article to get everyone ready for tonight by Lazur....10 players to watch in this game:

Here are ten players to watch in preseason game number two:

1. WR N’Keal Harry​

The former first-round pick will top our preview list all summer long. Harry is stringing together good days at practice, with two strong ones in Philly. The 6-foot-3 wideout caught a ~25-yard touchdown from Mac Jones at the end of Monday’s session, streaking down the left sideline. The touchdown in team drills came after Harry went 3-0 in one-on-ones, and he then used his large frame effectively in Tuesday’s red-zone heavy practice by making himself big in-between zone defenders. At some point, Harry’s practice performance needs to show up on game day. It didn’t happen against Washington, but he’ll get another chance on Thursday night.

2. EDGE Chase Winovich​

Winovich returned to practice this week after landing on the active/PUP list for the first 12 practices. The promising Winovich was once tabbed a premier young player on the team, but issues setting the edge of the defense saw him fall out of favor last season. Now, Winovich is late to the party at a position where the Pats added Matt Judon, Kyle Van Noy, and Ronnie Perkins this offseason (plus Josh Uche in 2020). There’s a lot of competition at outside linebacker, and questions remain about Winovich’s fit in Belichick’s defense. If the 2019 third-round pick doesn’t hit the ground running, Winovich might be a surprise trade candidate.

3. TE Devin Asiasi​

Asiasi is a lone wolf. Hunter Henry, Jonnu Smith, and Matt LaCosse are unlikely to suit up, while the team released Troy Fumagalli with an injury designation to get down to 85 players by Tuesday’s deadline. The good news is that Fumagalli’s release signals that Henry and Smith aren’t dealing with serious injuries. A source described the dynamic TE duo by saying that Henry and Smith could play if it were a meaningful regular-season game. As for Asiasi, he is still getting his footing after landing on the COVID list to start camp. He flashes abilities as a receiver by threatening defenses up the seam and is a solid run blocker. However, Asiasi’s hands are sometimes shaky, and he still makes an occasional mistake in his route running. The injury bug at tight end is a good opportunity for Asiasi to get live game reps and show his worth.

4. CB Joejuan Williams​

One positive development for the Pats over the last week is the emergence of third-year corner Joejuan Williams. Williams still needs to do a little more before we say the light officially came on, but he earned starter reps with a solid preseason opener and didn’t look out of place in joint practices. The Pats’ CB had a nice PBU on speedster Jalen Reagor up the left sideline and contested another pass in the end zone. Williams playing outside also frees up Jalen Mills to move inside the formation, where he’ll play once Stephon Gilmore returns. The puzzle pieces make more sense with Williams at outside corner and Mills inside, while the Pats need one of their depth CBs to emerge. Maybe Williams is finally becoming that guy.

5. WR Kristian Wilkerson​

The Kristian Wilkerson hype train is screeching to a halt. After a great start to camp, Wilkerson is suddenly dropping everything. He had three drops in the joint practices, two of which were easily catchable balls. Wilkerson is still getting open, but creating separation isn’t as appealing if you can’t finish the play. He is trending towards a development player that could end up on the practice squad. Earlier in camp, Wilkerson looked like a legit contributor, which is still possible if he eliminates the drops.

6. DT Christian Barmore​

New England’s second-round pick will likely make his preseason debut on Thursday night after sitting out the opener. Barmore was a full participant in joint practices and had a very good summer before the toe/foot issue. The Alabama product brings some juice and versatility to the defensive line. Barmore is a pass-rushing threat on the interior of the line, with the potential to round out his game into a three-down player. Lawrence Guy, and Davon Godchaux, among others, play their roles extremely well on the defensive front. But Barmore has the game-changing talent to make splash plays as an interior rusher. The Patriots need that juice.

7. DL Henry Anderson​

Another sneaky storyline that came out of last Thursday night’s preseason game was veteran Henry Anderson playing into the second half. Anderson looks good in practice, especially during one-on-one drills, but it’s usually not a good indication when a seven-year vet plays in the second half of the first preseason game. Anderson was an easy free-agent target to project due to his heavy playing style and versatility. However, it wouldn’t be the first time a defensive lineman with an NFL pedigree didn’t catch onto New England’s system (Mike Pennel, Michael Bennett, etc.). We aren’t in surprise cut candidate territory yet, but if Anderson is buried on the depth chart again this week, the seat is starting to heat up.

8. S Adrian Colbert​

Colbert was banged up in the early portion of camp, but he practiced this week and is another under-the-radar vet who had solid tape with the Giants a year ago. On Tuesday, Colbert got a few opportunities when Kyle Dugger and Adrian Phillips were struggling with the Eagles’ tight ends. Plus, he is drinking the New England kool-aid, all the way down to praising the strength and conditioning program for getting him in the best shape of his life.

9. K Quinn Nordin​

New England’s kicker competition isn’t quite the same because the Patriots didn’t draft Nordin. Still, the Nordin hype due to his ridiculous leg strength reminds me of the brief punter battle between reigning All-Pro Jake Bailey and then-incumbent Ryan Allen. Allen was coming off an outstanding Super Bowl performance, but Bailey came into minicamp his rookie season and was booming punts. Allen didn’t report right away, but he came in to compete a few days into minicamp. The Patriots cut Allen shortly after that because Bailey was so good. Again, it’s not a perfect comparison, but it feels like Nordin is stealing Folk’s job while the 36-year-old vet is hurt. The undrafted rookie made all three of his kicks in Tuesday’s practice, and there was a moment where the referees standing under the goalposts looked at the kick sail through in awe. I’ve never seen refs look that impressed by how far a kick traveled.

10. DB Justin Bethel​

When we did our third 53-man roster projection, Bethel was listed under special teams in the “coverage specialists” category. However, Bethel was decent in the opener at outside corner and is getting more looks there in practice. Earlier in his career, Bethel was a rotational cornerback that played 43 percent of the defensive snaps in 2017 with Arizona. He wasn’t always exclusively a special teams player, and with few options at outside CB, Bethel could play a little on defense if he’s their best depth option.
The most noteworthy take from his preview was the good news regarding Henry&Smith.
Williams&Harry been coming on. They could both cement spots tonight.
Desperation time for Wino. Hard to believe hes on the bubble. Dude needs to show up tonight.
Nordin should nail down the job. Unless he doesn't. How's THAT for insightful analysis?
I think Wilkerson is PS bound.
And Im looking forward to seeing Barmore.
 
Looking forward to seeing Mac again tonight, some more of the younger players (Uche, Dugger, Harry etc.)

Of course no injuries!!!!!



Always nice to see the GDT, especially on a weekday since it also means time to shift gears away from work :thumbsup:
 
Is it me? Or do the Pats coaches t-shirts all look like they had a overflowing cup of coffee placed on the left breast?
 
Very important to understand that the Eagles and the Pats have w different agendas for these preseason games. The eagules with a new staff are trying to to establish THEIR culture and :winning" these games are more important to them than the Pats who are just working their "process: They don''t have to "win: a preseason game.x

While everyone is going to focus on the QB's I'm really looking forward to see Barmore, Winovivh. I want to see progress from guys like Cajuste. and Gatscheax And of course progress from Harry if they will throw him the ball.

We will be surprised if we see any of Cam's run offense yet either. The offense will be very vanilla without the TE's I think. Happy watching
 


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