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  1. slash83

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    So what was it, was it simply being out schemed or man handled up front, or a combination of both? And how does the team adjust if we get another crack at them?

    I haven’t read any post game details or analysis.
     
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    It sure looked like a combination of both to me.
     
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    I think Harbaugh and Roman had an idea. They really had Jackson stay within the game plan and controlled his play. Well done.
     
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    To me, it looked like a bit of a rope-a-dope. The Ravens sprung something on us (gap blocking vs ZBS) that we didn’t see on film. Similar to the Pittsburgh game in 2011 where they suddenly started playing a lot of aggressive bump and run.
     
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    Good find. This seems appallingly basic and really bad if true. I haven’t watched film but from what he posted I get what he means. They must have mixed up their blocking schemes and introduced gap blocking during their bye week, otherwise the Pats certainly would have picked that up in film study and prepped for it.
     
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    You can study all the film you want but if a team throws something different at you, and can execute it at that high of a level, it’s going to be an L. No reason to think they won’t do it again should they play one another in the playoffs. The Pats should at least be better prepared for it next time, though. Alexander is great if you want to take a deep dive into blocking schemes and he and Kirwin firing things off of one another is must-hear radio every Monday afternoon. That spot alone makes the Sirius subscription worth it.
     
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    Thanks for the insights above.

    The extra week for prep seems to have really helped the Ravens, then? In the past, it hasn't been a big deal vs. the Pats but from what I'm reading here, perhaps it did.

    Is it reasonable to say that the Pats have seen the best the Ravens have to throw at them, while the Ravens haven't seen the best of the Pats by any means?
     
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    It's not an unfamiliar strategy, though. BB, Mayo and Bielema know this well and that's how they counteracted it so quickly. I suspect the Ravens rarely used a gap blocking scheme. I never picked up on it in the few Ravens' games I watched (of course, that doesn't mean they wren't doing it).
     
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    I could have sworn they also ran a double-wing a few times. (2 TE, 2 WB, 1 FB, 1 running QB). That's Pop Warner ****. And the Pats were getting gashed by it.
     
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    If he didn’t throw the game, it certainly didn’t look like they were trying to win it lol

    I think it screwed the Steelers with a bad matchup
     
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    It's a regular season game on the road against a really good team. The Patriots lost 5 regular season games last year and won the Super Bowl. It always feels like a big deal in the moment when the Patriots lose. After all, it's rare. The team is 8-1. Most likely they will have the number one seed in the playoffs. I like their chances at home. Now, of course there will be things to correct. There always are, even after a win. But that's Belichick's job. As a fan who doesn't have to worry about that, I'm pretty happy with 8-1.
     
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    Refs moved the chains for Ravens several times. This non-call was especially irksome.
     
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    Lamar jackson = Jimmy butler?
     
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    Why should Belichick have wasted a timeout to challenge that, given the way PI calls almost never get reversed no matter how bad they are?
     
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    Because last week a very similar no call was reversed on challenge. Not impossible and worth the price here.
     
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    My only comment, this is now two weeks in a row that I lost my FF matchup because Brady threw an interception. Come on Tommy, think of us poor fans.:)
     
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    Week 2 against the Dolphins, Gordon ran a very similar pick -- he came across the middle from the outside and contacted the inside DB, while a receiver slipped into the flat and caught the pass. A penalty was not called on the field, but challenged by Flores and ruled OPI after review.

    The plays were nearly identical in nature, which made me surprised that Belichick didn't challenge this play against BAL, since he had essentially seen the same play several weeks earlier and it was in fact overturned and ruled OPI following a challenge.
     
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    I was shrieking at the TV for BB to challenge that obvious illegal pick play. WTF?
     
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