Game Day Thread Official Post Game Thread- Raiders beat the Pats

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

What did you want them to say, "we just ran the play that was called?"

If you are convinced that Jakobi is a good enough actor to literally tear up, while apologizing profusely for trying to be a hero, I'd think that you'd want him to retire and go to Hollywood or Broadway.

 

[venecol]

If you are convinced that Jakobi is a good enough actor to literally tear up, while apologizing profusely for trying to be a hero, I'd think that you'd want him to retire and go to Hollywood or Broadway.

I can see him playing in LA or NY next season.

 

[Lavictoire]

he’s handed off the entire team to Patricia, Judge, and his sons.

Seems so. I dont see a BB run team anymore.

 

[Lavictoire]

but are the players doing their job too ? have they to be told to not lateral pass in a tie game ? or not false start ? or not snap the ball when everyone is not set ? Coaches have messed it up but no one is doing their job. cant expand that to BB has mailed it in. we had the same situation in 2009 where BB openly said i cant get these players to play

You make my point. BB is mailing it in. The inmates are running the asylum. No discipline, attention to detail, no creative use of personnel or problem solving.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Seems so. I dont see a BB run team anymore.

Why Julian Edelman thinks Patriots had Matt Patricia coach offense: ‘They didn’t really have a plan’

Retired receiver Julian Edelman thinks the Patriots "probably got their hand caught in the cookie jar" with the Matt Patricia situation.

www.masslive.com

 

[Twentytothree]

This is a dumb take by Chatham. Who gets the players prepared? The coaches. If the team is sloppy, undisciplined. That's coaching. If the players can't read situational football...that means it's not being stressed enough by....the coaches...

It's possible for both the coaches and the players to suck. I think Patricia needs to go, but that doesn't mean that Mac has a future as a starter. The only excuse I can think of for Meyers is that he's still concussed.

 

[PaulThePat]

Yup, clearly out. For me the refs confused the black tip of the cleat with the black of the endzone. Black segment of cleat (last 1.5 inches) is out of bounds.

 

[Lavictoire]

At first glance looks like he's in bounds but on closer look the tip of his shoe is dark and blends in with the grass but is actually stepping on the white line! ---NO TD--Pats win! (cudda,wudda,shudda).

 

[SVN]

I just can’t fathom Stevenson and Meyers losing their minds like that unless the coaches told them it was a lateral drill.

So you trust these two players to follow the play and the coach who has made some poor choices at OC this yr but nevertheless been the best over 20 yrs to call a lateral play ? Or you think matty p called the play and meyers is covering for him and the coaches , same coaches he questioned about mac benching and the offensive playcalling ?
This is some blind hate on the coaching staff when the players just screwed up and didnt follow orders.

 

[venecol]

At first glance looks like he's in bounds but on closer look the tip of his shoe is dark and blends in with the grass but is actually stepping on the white line! ---NO TD--Pats win! (cudda,wudda,shudda).

Maybe. You could argue that his cleats were inbounds before the very tip of his shoe hits the edge of the boundary. It was very close and I can see why they didn't reverse the call on the field. That's not the reason for the loss though.

 

[RIpats88]

It's possible for both the coaches and the players to suck. I think Patricia needs to go, but that doesn't mean that Mac has a future as a starter. The only excuse I can think of for Meyers is that he's still concussed.

Hey may not be, but I also have a hard time analyzing him because he has such poor coaching.

And because I saw him last year look like a totally different player under McDaniels. It's not like he looked like trash last year. He had 22 tds and 10 interceptions.

If he looked like this last year I would be more on your side here. Now if he gets a real OC next year and still looks like this then yeah.

 

[celticboy04]

Greetings,
Is it just me or was David Andrews response to that last play just a way of him saying he is sick of the offensive coaching staff??
Celticboy04

 

[SVN]

Curran: Patriots put a cherry on top of stupidity sundae in Vegas

The last play of Sunday's disaster will be what's remembered, but the continued dysfunction by the Patriots this late into the season poses way more questions than answers about the immediate future of the franchise, writes our Tom E. Curran.

www.nbcsports.com

The Lateral From Hell wasn’t a one-off by a fringe player in an otherwise crisp game. It was the capper (one hopes) to a season of offensive futility. A season doomed when Belichick put Matt Patricia in charge of an offensive overhaul and said, “Don’t worry."


The bar got lowered right then. And the Patriots have limboed under it ever since.

Not that this loss was primarily on Matt Patricia or the coaches. As Belichick subtly signaled a few times Sunday and Monday (we’ll get to that), on-field execution and in-the-moment situational decision-making sunk the knife between the shoulder blades of 2022.

Most notably? Mac Jones stunk. If you’re going to go all-in on calling out the sidelines when things go sideways -- which I had no issue with after nine months of the offense floundering -- you better be pristine with your own performance.

Jones wasn’t. He was 13 for 31 for 112 yards. He was 8-for-15 for 56 yards in the first half. Somehow, he was worse in the second -- 5-for-16 for 56 yards.

He missed two throws wide on the first drive. In a three-play stretch from the Raiders 1, he missed Jonnu Smith in the end zone, threw high to Nelson Agholor on the goal line allowing a pass-breakup and didn’t check to see if his offense was set before going quick-snap for a would-be QB sneak touchdown. He overshot Meyers running open down the seam. And he laid down like a fawn in a pasture when the Patriots – too scared to let him throw on a third-and-10 with 3:04 remaining – called for a bootleg run.

There were plays to be made. Jones failed to make them.

You have to tell guys not to throw it backwards in a tie game to a spindly quarterback whose 55 yards from the goal line? You have to tell a first-round pick to check that everyone’s set before snapping the ball on the goal line? Or a highly-paid veteran tight end to get his posterior on the line? You have to tell guys to be ready to block at the end of the play clock on a punt even if the clock’s been (or about to be reset) because the snapper may blow at anytime?

 

[RIpats88]

Also don't forget the boneheaded blocked punt. That's another notch for the coaching staff. No one lined up or ready to block

 

[archstanton543]

Also don't forget the boneheaded blocked punt. That's another notch for the coaching staff. No one lined up or ready to block

That one's one Cardona. The refs were late in bumping the play clock and he didn't double check it. He saw it was at four seconds and hiked it.

 

[italian pat patriot]

After an ugly first half a very good 2nd half but it finished as we know

But i am not mad as i should because we are not good enough

A good team win this game

 

[captain stone]

To much of the dismay of the Jones haters, Jones will be the undisputed starter next year and unfortunately be treated to what bad teams do to young QBs - a third OC and third offensive system in three years. I guarantee you Belichick knows that he and Patricia set this guy back (although he will never admit it publicly) and will give Jones another chance to prove himself next year.

I'll admit Jones played like crap yesterday and for the first time was a bigger problem with the offense than the o-line that played fairly well yesterday (at least for them). But for most of the year, play calling and the o-line have been exponentially more of an issue than Jones.

We still don't know if Jones is the guy and won't know until next year when Belichick gets a real OC and offense.

Surely you're not suggesting that Corky be handed the starting job next year without having to compete for it first, are you?

Because I would be very interested in seeing Corky vs Zappy on a level playing field...

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Extend Judon. Cut or trade the rest. McCourty is a FA. Let him walk.

id consider keeping Mills around as well, but yea other than Judon everyone on that list has been stealing money

 

[JarOfMayo51]

From the opposite angle it shows BB sitting there awkwardly waiting for their exchange to finish lol

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

Extend Judon. Cut or trade the rest. McCourty is a FA. Let him walk.

i would keep parker. He has been solid for a WR in this offense given the **** situation, first year with the pats in comparison to bourne and agholor but playing better, and he is a physical outside guy we don't have this type of WR.